Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Some classes are being divided up by sex......

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:47 PM
Original message
Some classes are being divided up by sex......
boys in one girls in another. Why and when were these classes combined??? and why the change now??? Happening in Waukesha Wisconsin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. There are studies that say when the classes are split up..
girls grades go up dramatically!! They are more focused and willing to particpate..not sure about the boys....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. My understanding is that boys' grades go up as well.
At least, that is what I have read.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
2. Do you have an article? it might give a reason in there
I'm not sure why but it does sound strange.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
3. A link or some additional background please
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. I will have to look for the story I read and provide it for you later...
got an appointment to run to...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
5. What grade?
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 04:58 PM by madame defarge
I know there have been some studies done lately that claim that elementary school age boys are having a lot of problems dealing with the collaborative learning environments because it's their nature to be competitive. There's a book about it called "Raising Cain".

The pretext is that boys' confidence level is being shattered by subtle (and not so subtle) messages like "Girls Rule" t-shirts etc. Apparently, some blame is being put on the feminist movement for going too far in the favor of girls.

Personally, I think it's a bunch of crap, blaming the feminist movement. I think it's mostly due to lack of parental guidance/involvement. So many of the problem boys in our school are those whose parents don't have time for them.

That said, I think that if the coed environment is getting in the way of educating the kids, then by all means separate them for certain learning experiences, especially if they're going to realign the educational system to favor the boys. I'm even considering an all-girls high school for my daughter when she's of age. She'll still have plenty of access to boys to get the social benefits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
6. Curious.
Are they promoting the LGBT lifestyle? I mean, put a bunch of boys with boys, girls with girls, and never the twain shall meet; or if they do, it's highly supervised, rules, etc.

Kinda reminds me of forcing the boys to shower with boys, and girls with girls, in PE, as it was when I was young and had no choice in the matter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. I went to an all-boy's high school....
I could tell you stories that would curl your hair. Lets just say horny, young men are going to find an outlet whether it's with a girl or a dorm mate!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MikeStl Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. hmmm
Looks like I went to the wrong school :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
7. That would be fine for my gals.
The boys are obnoxious in elementary and middle school. Sorry it's just true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. ya well el...... wink, my boys are having issue
withn a lot of girls thinking they can hit, kick and not get in trouble or just all around boss the boys around. girls are bossy little things. but then again, i imagine you teach your daughters to be nice and respectful, just as i teach my boys. son told me the other day, there are just a few nice girls. the other girls are so snotty. now it is a school in ritzy. i dont particularly like the jr leaguer parent either
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MikeStl Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. Yeah I had the same problem in school
Was physically assaulted by a group of girls on a regular basis. As I recall I finally went against everyone telling me I can't fight back because they were girls and I threw a few punches back at them. They chilled out a lot after that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. hey it is bad. i said to one little third grade girl that would pinch son
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 05:40 PM by seabeyond
ear on a regular basis. stop. edmund isnt allowed to hit a girl. that isnt fair. she says oh the power...... my mouth dropped open. but i am seeing real issues with girls. if a boy does anything, ANYTHING aggressive they are pulled into iss. all adults are so fearful for and of the boys. yet girls do all kinds of stuff all over, playground, class, and nothing. hitting is hitting..... i dont care the gender. i think it is a big thing. moms need to talk to their girls about not abusing the boys inst allowed to hit girl thing. though a boy isnt allowed to abuse, girls arent allowed either
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. you're absolutely right -- my daughter had a girl half her size punch her
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 09:33 PM by elehhhhna
recently. The supernaughty boys are really out of control though...


and may I direct you here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4924776&mesg_id=4924776
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
9. 5th grade son p.e. class had a film on the male body
i think it is perfectly acceptable that they seperate the younger grades by gender when talking the personal, since they are doing it at such a young age now a days. my son was hearing fromm niece two years older that 5th grade would be sex education and the whole class sat together. he was mortified. didnt want to do it so bad. he is modest. i respect that. so i totally embrace it as a good thing, and if they are giving this to kids at such a young age, that is the least they can do.

now

my niece is in a private christian school that is seperating the boys and girls more and more which is a bad thing. it is about keeping genders seperate so no ... no no's. also they are seperate in bible class, to tell girls their role in modesty, but more the conditioning male is the boss. and using this to teach boys they are the boss. this seperation i dont like so well.

also,i saw a post in seperating class the boy does better. a whole lot of stuff in that statement, i am learning watching my two boys going thru school, that i just have to respect when listening to boys express their issue with the girls in class and the teachers relationship with girls vs boys.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MikeStl Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
12. I don't see the point of this really
I think putting me in a class with a bunch of other guys would have been more distracting. The girls in my class if anything blocked my view of checking out the cute guys ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
13. Is this unusual or controversial in the US?

Here in the UK single-sex schools are very common indeed (although I think still less so than mixed ones). I don't know of many examples of mixed-sex schools with segregated classes, but it doesn't seem to me an inherently absurd idea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
14. I think it's a good idea
Have academic classes divided by gender, and everything else together. Studies have proven that females do better in all -female classes... all the way through college. They also become more confident,a nd are more apt to speak up in class and voice their opinions. I would have LOVED this, in elementary school especyally, where so many of the boys acted like sadists...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
15. I went to an all boys high school..My grades were...
..fucking tragic, but that's because I was a bit of a cheeky bastard....

Seriously, I think that it actually works out better for both, or at the very least, it doesn't do any long-term permanent damage....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:40 PM
Response to Original message
20. Funny my grades went up when I left a gender segregated
school. Competing with the boys made me work harder. But what do I know? What I want to know is where these studies come from?

Back in my day we were segregated so we could be brainwashed into being good little housewives eventuallly one day. Scholastic achievement had nothing to do with it, although we were expected to get grades good enough to go to college so that we would meet a future husband with a future.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC