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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:43 PM
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Shocker! CIA told by Iraqi no WMDs existed BEFORE the invasion!
Iraqi diplomat gave U.S. prewar WMD details
Saddam’s foreign minister told CIA the truth, so why didn’t agency listen?
NBC VIDEO


• CIA's secret Iraqi source
March 20: The CIA once boasted of having a secret Iraqi source. NBC News reveals which member of Saddam Hussein’s Cabinet became a paid source of the CIA. NBC's Lisa Myers reports.
Nightly News



By Aram Roston, Lisa Myers
& the NBC Investigative Unit
Updated: 7:36 p.m. ET March 20, 2006
In the period before the Iraq war, the CIA and the Bush administration erroneously believed that Saddam Hussein was hiding major programs for weapons of mass destruction. Now NBC News has learned that for a short time the CIA had contact with a secret source at the highest levels within Saddam Hussein’s government, who gave them information far more accurate than what they believed. It is a spy story that has never been told before, and raises new questions about prewar intelligence.

What makes the story significant is the high rank of the source. His name, officials tell NBC News, was Naji Sabri, Iraq’s foreign minister under Saddam. Although Sabri was in Saddam's inner circle, his cosmopolitan ways also helped him fit into diplomatic circles.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11927856/
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:44 PM
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1. Now--how does this
relate--or does it--to Valerie Plame?
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:46 PM
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2. Are you saying...
that the CIA and the Bush administration was ignoring the intel that wasn't consistent with their goals or beliefs? Nooo...I don't believe that....

Nominated. This needs to get out there because it's just one more piece of the puzzle.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:47 PM
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3. It's all part of the story of fabricated intelligence about WMDs...
They just made it all up. Plame and her husband were inconvenient truth tellers.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:47 PM
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4. thanks for the OP... looks interesting
going to check out the link now.:patriot:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:49 PM
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5. kick
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:51 PM
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6. Once again, they knew and they knew that they lied.
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 08:24 PM by Jack Rabbit
They knew there were few or no WMDs in Iraq and lied to convince the American people that there were.

Impeachment should be a prelude to war crimes trials.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:51 PM
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7. The CIA knew just about everything before the war
A massive WMD program wouldn't be able to escape their attention for long. Sooner or later somebody would talk or some satellite detector would be able to see what's going on. Or a strange shipment would be found out.

You just can't keep these things secret for long.

That said, the administration (read: Cheney) still pushed them to provide something, anything to try and prove this false accusation. Sure, the analysts rebelled, but they were told to shut up. Other, more politically savvy analysts delivered some meager and dubious pickings directly to Cheney via OSP.

A little (ok, maybe a lot) embellishment and Voila! A casus belli for war.

This must have torn the CIA apart.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:05 PM
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8. Sabri's statements don't jive.
They rock.
They rock the House of Bush to its very foundation.

There should be no surprise that more evidence comes oozing out of the woodwork, proving again that the entire Bush foreign policy is based on a series of deliberate lies and misrepresentations. This could have come out several years go, but for the fear factor and the extremely long memories held by Card, Rove and other thugs.

This is not the first, nor certainly the last story in this vein. I am surprised that NBC and MSNBC are the ones putting this out. I'd expect it of DU, KOS and other places, but to see it on a commercial site so soon is interesting. Does that mean that big corporations recognize that their boy-child has run his course, and can no longer carry their tax and spend, graft and law-bend policies that they hold so dear. I suspect that they will try to co-opt several democats (who are still cheaper to pay off than the spoiled GOP - due to the Abramof sky-levels of graft and bribery) and suck their souls into the corporate fold.
The top candidates for these suck jobs? Hillary, of course. (Her book was worth HOW MUCH?) there are others also ready to be purchased.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:17 PM
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10. Ex-CIA Chief Tenet said: "Slam dunk."
Tenet went along with the lies and sat behind Colon while the lies were spewed out.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:16 PM
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9. Let it fall down, let it fall down, let it all fall down!
Let this be another nail!
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:51 PM
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11. Two issues here that need consideration.......
.....in all fairness I'm not sure I would have taken the word of Saddam’s foreign minister on much of anything either. I mean come on what else was the guy going to say except "Nope, nothing here."

That having been said, why didn't Bush have some covert ON THE GROUND action going on to find out what kinds of weapons Saddam really had before sending troops in??

answer:

Finish Daddy's war - get one up on good old Dad while at the same time making a few cool billion on oil and military equipment. Plus, if Bush can pull it off - and he may have already accomplished this - Iraq's oil will stay under the good old dollar instead of switching to the euro. Maybe that is why we always hear "mission accomplished" because for him the deal is done and to hell with my fellow countrymen/women.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:54 PM
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12. It really isn't that complicated.

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)



Bush Regime Iraq Successes (Phase 1)

1. Saddam will no longer sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME. Other than Saudi Arabia.


3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. Slowing production of Iraqi oil garners more profits to US Oil Corps.

5.The Military Industrial Complex is a booming Industry.


Phase 2?

“Iraq: Permanent US Colony”

Iraq: Permanent US Colony
By Dahr Jamail
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Tuesday 14 March 2006

"Why does the Bush Administration refuse to discuss withdrawing occupation forces from Iraq? Why is Halliburton, who landed the no-bid contracts to construct and maintain US military bases in Iraq, posting higher profits than ever before in its 86-year history?
Why do these bases in Iraq resemble self-contained cities as much as military outposts?"

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031306A.shtml

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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:58 PM
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13. What was so "complicated" about my comments? My comments.......
.....were even shorter and more to the point than what you quoted. :shrug:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:07 PM
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14. You are correct but I was not replying directly to your...
post. ;0)
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:50 PM
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16. How 'bout the actual words of the CIA who said NO WMD?
How 'bout the DOE who said NO NUKES?

How 'bout the US Air Force who sid NO DRONES?

It was all public knowledge, NO WMD, long before bush's illegal war of aggression.

CIA to Bush: 'No clear Evidence of WMD'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/120103A.shtml

Why the CIA thinks Bush is wrong
The president says the US has to act now against Iraq. The trouble is, his own security services don't agree.
http://www.sundayherald.com/28384

CIA in blow to Bush attack plans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,808970,00.html

White House 'exaggerating Iraqi threat'
Bush's televised address attacked by US intelligence
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,807286,00.html

bush LIED. It's that simple.

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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:37 PM
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15. I get the feeling that every night Shrub prays...
...that tomorrow will bring some good news to him. "C'mon Gawd, can't you give me something?"
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