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auagroach Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:26 AM
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BUSH SIGNED WRONG BILL?
BUSH SIGNED WRONG BILL?

Friday, March 17, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=9627

Representative Henry Waxman (D-CA) has alleged in a letter to White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card that a bill President Bush signed this past February was not the version that passed the House of Representatives, according to an account at Raw Story.

The bill in question, the Deficit Reduction Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 2005, had gone through several revisions during the deliberations.

In addition, Waxman claims the Speaker of the House may have called President Bush before he signed the law, telling him he had the wrong version of the bill. The article notes that if this is true, it would put the President in willful violation of the U.S. Constitution. - ST
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:30 AM
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1. Nah, he signed the one they intended.
Those crooks just hoped they'd get away with this small con- nobody would notice.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:32 AM
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2. So bush...were ya so stupid ya signed the wrong bill, or did ya AGAIN
violate the USC?

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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:49 AM
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5. I'm betting on the latter. EOM
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:17 AM
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11. With bush, it could very well be both.
So stupid he signed the wrong bill instead of the willfully-violated-the-USC bill he meant to sign.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:20 AM
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13. That's true also EOM
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:33 AM
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3. wow!!
Very interesting.........
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:35 AM
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4. To * the Constitution was created to be violated
Who's gonna stop him?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:38 AM
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21. Yikes! What a pair of knockers, 'eh?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:37 PM
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27. Er, it's not really me. I'm much scarier looking.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:52 AM
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6. he did indeed
but they'll simply shrug it off (and in fact HAVE, iirc) as a 'clerical error'.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:57 AM
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7. Too knowingly sign the wrong bill is a crime!!!
This has NEVER happened before!!! This is just in your face I'm going to do what I damn well want...

and the Republicans are part of this!!!
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auagroach Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:07 AM
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9. Word of the day
insolence

n 1: the trait of being rude and impertinent; inclined to take liberties 2: an offensive disrespectful impudent act
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:07 AM
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8. this is easily resolved under the constitution
the bill he signed was not passed by the house, and therefore is not law. the president can sign any unpassed law he wants, it doesn't mean squat.

the bill both houses of congress DID pass went more than 10 days neither signed nor vetoed, and is therefore automatically law, unless congress adjourned during those 10 days, in which case it is "pocket vetoed".
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:18 AM
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12. I prefer the other USC remedy...
High crimes and misdemeanors.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:04 AM
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19. WOW! How did you know that?
This is why I spend 12/day on DU...Just smart people!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:46 AM
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22. my mother went to law school while i was in high school.
i learned quite a lot helping her study and/or just reading her textbooks (i was always such a nerd.)
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:10 PM
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24. WOW! He KNEW!!
quote.........
According to representative Henry Waxman, Bush signed into law a version of the Budget Reconciliation Act that didn't pass Congress. The discrepancy between the version Bush signed and the actual bill that passed equates to a value of $2 billion.

Bush knew he was directly violating the Constitution and effectively acting as a despot because he received a call from the Speaker of the House before signing the bill, warning him that it had not been passed.
end quote.........
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/180306bushsigns.htm
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:07 AM
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20. Does that cover what he did, though?
From what I read, I sounds like he was personally informed, and then signed it anyway. That's a wilful violation, and in itself (because of his advance notice and subsequent signing) additionally indicates the president believes he can pass any law he wishes, will he, nil he.

That to me is a high crime- not the fact that he signed a meaningless law, but that he did so knowingly, and with the belief it would be law.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:47 AM
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23. well, seeing as impeachment is a political device,
it can be used for whatever congress decides.

if congress decides it rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, then it does.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:09 AM
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25. great history/constitutional lesson unblock!
I'm shocked by how many people don't know these basic facts about how laws are made!

It's all right there in print. Of course, for people who are allergic to reading, there's always Schoolhouse Rock..."I'm only a bill, yes I'm only a bill..." :evilgrin:
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:08 AM
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10. throw another shrimp on the barbi
and give the old chap another 45 days to sign whatever
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:27 AM
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14. Pretzeldent can't safely ride a bicycle....
and you are annoyed that he signed the wrong bill? :)

Seriously though, this Administration maintained that no one expected the levees to break, until video proved different. They hide the truth, lie and have claimed unlimited, unchecked authority as Commander-in-Chief in the War on Terror. I don't trust them and neither should Rep. Waxman.

Keep up the good work Rep. Waxman.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:27 AM
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15. Barney Fife does it again
WTF is next?
Disease outbreak???
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:50 AM
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16. Don't count on Congress to do anything about it...nt
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:52 AM
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17. when the lights go on
the cockroaches scatter for cover.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 02:03 AM
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18. THAT IS THE TRUTH nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:11 AM
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26. This is .... is ..... is..... no fucking words for it.
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