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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:47 AM
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NewsHax Says Michael Moore Owns Halliburton Stock -->
Michael Moore owns Halliburton Stock? I don't think so! How inane! Who ARE these people?

Gimme a BREAK!! Do they not see how they THEMSELVES are hypocritical? And tell me, what is wrong with creating a kinder, gentler world through the principles and values they rage against in the first paragraph of this article?

My MIL is a case in point here. She continues to spout this crap about how "liberals" think the government owes them money. If she says this again, the dinnertime conversation's gonna go something like this:

ME: "Well you get a Social Security check from the government every month, don't you?"
MIL: "Well yes..."
ME: "I tell you what. Soon as I finish eating, I'll look up the number to your Social Security office. Then, first thing in the morning, you can call them and tell them you want to discontinue any further Social Security checks coming in because you don't believe people should feel that the government owes them anything. Tell them you're gonna pull yourself up by the bootstraps and you don't need their dirty, liberal government money anymore.
MIL: (Confused, blank look on face, utterly speechless)

Furthermore, my BIL who believes in the same philosophy, is ALSO picking up monthly checks from the government, for disability. Now tell me, NewsHax, how is this not UTTERLY HYPOCRITICAL!

I hope and pray that maybe SOMEDAY they will come to see that the Government is there to HELP the people, and that's what it SHOULD be! What's wrong with that?? Seems like the Christian way to me!


Members of the liberal left exude an air of moral certitude. They pride themselves on being selflessly committed to the highest ideas and seem particularly confident of the purity of their motives and the evil nature of their opponents. To correct economic and social injustice, liberals support a whole litany of policies and principles: progressive taxes, affirmative action, greater regulation of corporations, raising the inheritance tax, strict environmental regulations, children’s rights, consumer rights, and much, much more.

But do they actually live by these beliefs?

What he found was a long list of glaring contradictions. Michael Moore denounces oil and defense contractors as war profiteers. He also claims to have no stock portfolio, yet he owns shares in Halliburton, Boeing, and Honeywell and does his postproduction work in Canada to avoid paying union wages in the United States.

Schweizer’s conclusion is simple: liberalism in the end forces its adherents to become hypocrites. They adopt one pose in public, but when it comes to what matters most in their own lives-their property, their privacy, and their children-they jettison their liberal principles and embrace conservative ones. Schweizer thus exposes the contradiction at the core of liberalism: if these ideas don’t work for the very individuals who promote them, how can they work for the rest of us?

Source: http://www.newsmaxstore.com/nms/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=1998&PROMO_CODE=1C9C-1

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:49 AM
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1. If true there are two possibilities
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 11:50 AM by still_one
1. He owns them through a mutual fund
2. He owns a minimal amount of shares, so he gets the stockholder reports, to facilitate his case against them

remember Roger and Me. Because of his shares of GM he was allowed to attend the shareholders meetings





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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:54 AM
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4. He owns Halliburton stock because its the only way
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 11:55 AM by China_cat
to get the company financials every year. You can't be refused if you're a stockholder. What better way to keep up with what's going on?



Ok, after seeing that MM has denied this (which I didn't know, sorry), I STILL think it's a good way to keep an eye on the bums.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:58 AM
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6. I agree, that is what I am saying
it is also a way to get into the stock holders meetings


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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:58 AM
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8. Mutual funds. Very problematic. I find it hard to believe that Moore
would be careless about which companies he invested in even if he hires his money management stuff out to employees or an invenstment company.

But the mutual funds part of this reminds me of Nader. In 1999-2000 he admitted that he had stock in the very weapons and chemical companies that he railed against - through mutual funds (or a fund).

Very hypocritical.

The same would apply for Moore if true, but I really find it hard to believe the Moore would do it. Halliburton? The world's lousiest company? Please, no.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:01 PM
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10. I was just speculating
personally I do NOT believe he has any interests in haliburton, unless it is to obtain corporate information or attend the stock holder meetings

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:24 PM
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13. Yes, you're right. It's an easy way to find out what they say they are
Edited on Fri Mar-17-06 12:25 PM by higher class
doing. He might have the minimum invested. And he might be doing that for Bechtel and hundreds of other companies that thrive on the death of war or the suckering of the little people.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:51 AM
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2. I think his foundation owns it or something... n/t
...
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:52 AM
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3. Michael Moore has denied this
Who are you to believe? Michael Moore or NewsMax? :rofl:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:59 AM
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9. well, Newsmax said that AAR was going out of business
of course they have been saying that for the last two years
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:20 PM
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12. Sorry, I have to believe NewsMax on this one
After all, they do have "NEWS" in their name, don't they? If so, they must be accurate!

:sarcasm:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:40 PM
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14. not just news but MAXIMUM news
which implies they will give you more news than what exists


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:56 AM
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5. Really no need to propagate this kind of prattle here
I don't know what you are getting at here, but it seems a little odd.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:58 AM
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7. Imagine it's true. Does this not ensure that he'd get investor info?
I think this is a great way to keep track of everything Enron tells its shareholders. I know which side Moore fights for. This news, even if true, is crap.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:15 PM
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11. Ha ha!
Please do let us know how the MIL and BIL reacts! Throw the word "welfare queen" at them while you are at it.

And please do include the fact that the prez and his wives are living off of the taxpayers! Dont' forget to mention the term welfare queen again when doing so. :silly:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:41 PM
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15. This has been posted before. Consider the source.
It has been discounted numerous times.
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