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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:28 PM
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Why the internet will die
The main theme here is just that individual private citizens simply can't be given the power to speak out, potentially on a global level to other citizens. Most recently we have seen the effects of censorship of the Chinese internet. At work we are regulated first by Websense or Surfcontrol to prevent us from "unauthorized" nonbusiness use of their computer systems. Ya, well Ok, so that means most people don't have a good enough work ethic to actually do work while at work? Well, why not? We always fail to address the cause of a problem. So instead, my pension gets bypassed because they NEED a 50,000 program to tell me what I can and can not access.
Just today I tried to e-mail a political board and the e-mail came back...OK.. I now have to knock this off too? Even if it's lunch hour?
Back in 2003 Windows Palladium contained truely evil provisions and capabilities that you can still research today know as Digital Rights Management. I have not searched lately but I am sure the consortium of assholes and their version of the net is not the open free structure we have now.
Every day though I think powerful people in high places are regreting the changes the net has brought about. Now they are after political boards, bloggers. They want to regulate.
WHAT HAPPENED TO DEREGULATION assholes? Don't you just hate people so hypocrytical they don't make an sense at all?
Then AOL and other major ISPs have their own commercial crap vision for the net. Ads you can't turn off, tracking your every mouseclick. Do we remember newsgoups being free? Do we realize the current lack of real free information on the net compared to what it was even two years ago?

Bottom line, it's just too powerful a tool to put in the hands of a prole.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:31 PM
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1. I think Al Gore spoke out on this issue recently
He said that the internet is one of the last forms of a free exchange of ideas, which is essential to a Democracy. With Television and Radio, it's pretty much a one way conversation. The internet represents our last refuge, and yeah, the powers that be are beginning to realize the vast untapped power of the internet - and of course they want to control it. That's why we need to fight tooth and nail to have it remain as free as it can be.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:35 PM
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2. Well, when "they" talk about "freedom", maybe they really mean,....
,..."freedom" to be oppressed and exploited and controlled and invaded. Maybe, that's what "they" really mean when they push that "freedom" button. Maybe.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:37 PM
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3. freedom to choose Coke or Pepsi...
that's all folks....
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:39 PM
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5. Finally!
Something Coke and Pepsi drinkers can agree on!
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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:41 PM
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7. But
never, ever diet anything.
My body always told me that stuff was as good and healthy for you as drinking battery acid.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:38 PM
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4. Code word
I fear you are correct.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:39 PM
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6. We can always go "low tech"
Bring back the dial in servers. :) Go modem, pay your phone bill. ...This depresses me because I know it will happen.

I'm bummed, yesterday I realized what happened in Germany, and how it happened.

I feel invisible, I see, I hear, but it feels like no one else can.

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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:43 PM
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8. I too
know far too much.
Knight of the Fifth Veil you see.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:42 PM
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13. yep...they can't stop us...F them
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:27 PM
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16. Er, and there's still print media
You can learn a lot by spending your lunch hour with a book. Or a magazine. Or newspaper. Lots of alternative press still around.

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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:43 PM
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18. lol, when i think "low-tech" it's hand-cranked printing press, lol...
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:08 PM
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9. There are only two or three major nodes that need to be shut down
to take out the entire international network. LANs will still work but any WAN acess to remote servers will go down.
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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:38 PM
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12. Ya but
what about all the lines into the underground bunkers at Ft. Meade mining all of our data? How can we take them out?
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:45 PM
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14. The way it is designed it is all or nothing with those nodes
otherwise the network data will go by a different path.

Though I do expect the military network to be self contained to still have all the connectivity that they need.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:15 PM
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10. They'll use the porn and "What about the Children" issues. As well as...
the "Terraists might use it to attack us...", line.
I have a feeling that bu$h will remain in office after 2008 and after another controlled attack on US soil, it'll be full-blown police state.

Perhaps Costa Rica will still be online?
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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:36 PM
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11. First
they came for the pornographers, but I was not a pornographer so I said nothing.....
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gilpo Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:15 PM
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15. This genie is out of the bottle
They would have to do something totally drastic to shut this down. Not that I think that it is past Them, but I think we have hit a point of no return. Remember, they would have to shut down Free Republik, too.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:32 PM
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17. I agree with you.. The people that are currently in control having been
planning this (the US) takeover for decades.. The one thing they didn't plan on was the internet being the tool that it is today.. The net' is the only thing stopping them from what they want.. Some how, some way, they will put an end to it.. It's the only thing that stands in their way...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:13 AM
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19. Feh, they're already working on an Interplanetary Internet.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:37 AM
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20. Yep, that's what killed off the printing press and the photocopier.
Personally, I blame Martin Luther.

Information will always proliferate - the internet can't be uninvented.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat
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