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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:33 PM
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Freepers are in big trouble!
Justice Ginsburg Reveals Details of Threat By GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer
Wed Mar 15, 5:32 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she and former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor have been the targets of death threats from the "irrational fringe" of society, people apparently spurred by Republican criticism of the high court.

Ginsburg revealed in a speech in South Africa last month that she and O'Connor were threatened a year ago by someone who called on the Internet for the immediate "patriotic" killing of the justices.

Security concerns among judges have been growing.

Conservative commentator Ann Coulter joked earlier this year that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned. Over the past few months O'Connor has complained that criticism, mainly by Republicans, has threatened judicial independence to deal with difficult issues like gay marriage.

more . . .
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060315/ap_on_go_su_co/ginsburg_threats
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:35 PM
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1. vote it up
:kick:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:43 PM
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11. Done !!! - K & R !!!
:kick:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:37 PM
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2. Done and a little kick.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:39 PM
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3. K&R... &LOL nt
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:39 PM
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4. I always wondered if the situations in Pelican Brief
had ever been factual. I guess such circumstances are always a possibility in the world we live in...

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:39 PM
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5. If they're looking for the fringe of humanity, send them to:
www.freerepublic.com

All the enemies of humanity can be found there worshiping their god: Dictator shrub and his murderous thugs in the white house.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:40 PM
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6. kick and recommended n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:40 PM
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7. that is not free speech, that brand of hate speak should be grounds...
for Coulter's incarceration imo
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:42 PM
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8. There should be a law against that!
Seriously! I don't understand why there is not a law criminalizing threats against federal judges. If Ann Coulter had suggested that someone should poison Shrub, rather than Justice Breyer, Coulter would have been visited by the Secret Service and locked up long ago. There is simply no excuse for allowing sitting judge to be threatened and intimidated.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:49 PM
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61. :patriot:
:patriot:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:43 PM
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9. And, who is silent....
the R.A.T.S....

R.oberts
A.lito
T.homas
S.calia

Yeah, we got us some REAL MEN on that court. Only the women that have served/are serving have the balls to speak the truth!

Thank God for strong-willed women. (This comes from a strong-willed man.)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:43 PM
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10. How are they in trouble? They own that court now.
This stuff is going to earn them brownie points.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:46 PM
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12. Wow, do the necons know no shame, no humanity at all? nt
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:47 PM
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13. Pat Robertson and "Dr." James Dobson's FATWA on Judges
...bears fruit in their nutcase followers.

I still think those Radical Clerics (Robertson and Dobson) should have been arrested and detained for their remarks about SCOTUS Justices.

Robertson PETITIONED the DEITY, ON LIVE TV, to smite SCOTUS Justices. He prayed, "Lord, let there be more vacancies on the court." As those are lifetime appointments, I don't see how else he expected God to answer his prayer...
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:50 PM
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14. I would bet that every justice has received death threats.
The same as every President has, and I suspect many elected officials too.

That's a sad part of our society.

I really detest a lot of them, but I don't want to see they KILLED!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:50 PM
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15. Free Republic "Well Known Hate Group".
Countless threats have been caught and scrubbed off their violently slanted discussion boards.

Timothy McVeigh was defended there. 'Nuff said.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:51 PM
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53. I hope DU is recognized as a well known hate group, too.
Why? Because I'm a DUer, and I hate the fuck out of those ignorant fools at the Free Republic. They deserve to be hated, for their ignorance, for their bigotry, for their greed, for their "see spot run" level of policy on foreign affairs and the environment, and most importantly for their willingness to ignore those glaring gaps in their own knowledge and understanding and instead forge straight ahead to the realization of those puppet show dreams by any means necessary except legal ones.

I thank DU for providing me the space to express my antipathy for... those people.

Is that stupid as well? Yes, I suppose it is proving to be a waste of time, being the pissed-off Jiminy Cricket on the shoulder of a long-nosed, wooden brained, lurching nation. But it's either ride on the shoulder and scream or be just another helpless bug underfoot.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:55 PM
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16. Now this is something that seriously needs to be investigated.
Instead of spying on war protesters, our intelligence agencies should (and I sincerely think they would) be investigating threats to judges... any judges, no matter who they may be.

We are supposed to be a civilized country governed by laws!

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:00 PM
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19. If I was the Secret Service . . .
I'd certainly consider FreeRepublic to be more threatening than, say, the Society of Friends. Very few assassins/political murderers in history can be considered "leftist."

But that's just me thinking out loud.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:47 PM
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24. Left wing terrorism = annoying, right-wing terrorism = dangerous
Worst LW terrorist attack = Vail arson, 0 deaths/injuries
Worst RW terrorist attack = OKC bombing, 168 deaths, over 500 injuries

Need I say more?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:07 AM
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31. 9/11 Was Right Wing
Whether you believe in LIHOP or MIHOP or not (i don't), it was still a right wing terrorist attack.

Al Qaeda is a fascist organization that believes in a hyperconservatism in pursuit of an islamic state. So, that was the worst right wing attack, really.
The Professor
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:17 AM
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40. Freepers arent terrorists. They are Brownshirts
Brownshirts : Freelance agents of a corrupt political body.
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:50 AM
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30. You are so correct, Mr. Moderate, and I've often wondered why that is.
I've come to the conclusion that "leftists" because of their basic belief in peace, cooperation, etc. have to be pushed to greater extremes before they get angry enough to commit violence even when it comes to defending themselves. Also leftist philosophies are less likely to attract the violent fringe that flocks to the right. What do you think?

Peace,

freefall
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:55 AM
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36. Certainly "New Left" types from post WWII times . . .
When "leftist," "liberal," and "progressive" converged as terms in the West.

Let's not forget that classically defined, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao were all "leftists," and they caused -- literally -- tens of millions of deaths.
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:24 PM
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49. Ah, yes. I had forgotten about that. Point taken and appreciated. n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:58 PM
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17. Sounds like the right wing christian fundamentalists are at it again
:kick: AND recommended
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MamaBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:00 PM
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18. K and R
:kick::
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:03 PM
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20. I remember reading stuff like this at freeperville.
I wouldn't be surprised if it came from there.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:04 PM
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21. These cowards want to incite others to do violence.
Pure and simple. BO, the preeminent school yard bully, would never actually be brave enough to inflict physical violence, but he would be so pleased it one of his misguided followers did in his name.

These people are very very sick.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:20 PM
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22. Ann Coulter should be in jail
and it might not be a bad idea if they attached
elctrodes to her penis .. abu graib stylee
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:46 PM
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23. I'll bet the NSA is not after "those" terrorists.
Just Quaker grannies.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:09 AM
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25. So Now We Know. They Ran O'Connor Off The Court…
…and they are working on the others.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:00 AM
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26. Here are some reactions from the FREEREPUBLIC
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 01:00 AM by Kablooie
Sniffle....she's a victim....sob.

Ginsberg is not only a liar, but an ugly liar.


Perhaps, just perhaps, they should wonder about this. Americans are normally fairly laid back about most things. I'm sure it couldn't be that people see things as getting dangerously out of sync, a court that for some reason can over rule the executive and legislature. A court that seems to just make up law as it goes along. A court that is oblivious and impervious, or worse, to the effects of its decisions.
None of this would make people start thinking the court is nothing more than a domestic enemy.



In the beginning of the article they actual state that the death threats were "apparently" spurred on by Republicans!!!!! That is truly outrageous.

Yes it is. It evidences the fact that she has no business being on the Court.
That is so over the top, so provocative as to, at the very least, warrant some official condemnation in the form of a censure from every branch of government


The President and members of Congress also must take measures to be secure. It is what people in power must do.
I'm surprised Ginsburg is just finding this out!


Turns out they were not directly threatened at all. Typical distortion and exaggeration from the drama queens on the REAL "irrational fringe" which REALLY threatens the court. Ruth Buzzi is a far more dangerous threat to do harm against America than some wacko blogger.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:01 AM
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29. ROOOFLL!
Get this "That is so over the top, so provocative as to, at the very least, warrant some official condemnation in the form of a censure from every branch of government"...

Wow, so censuring Bush for breaking the law is unpatriotic -- whereas a Justice should be censured "from every branch of government" for speaking out about a death threat they received?

These people are loony!
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:58 AM
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37. "Ruth Buzzi?"
Wow. Now THERE'S a stretch.

Satire is worse than murder? They'd throw that guy out of Bizarro World.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:05 AM
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39. Sick, Dellusional and Cowardly
Must be getting lonely these days. Throughout history, these fruitcakes will be "Poster Children" for extremism... history will not be kind to any of these pathetic hate-filled easily brainwashed morons.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:01 AM
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27. rated it
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:59 AM
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28. Coulter joked?
Shouldn't the author of this article have put quotation marks around the word "joked"? The only thing suggesting Ann Coulter was joking when she called for the death of a Supreme Court Justice was the fact that SHE SAID she was joking.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:08 AM
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32. Indeed. nt
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:01 AM
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38. As Coulter IS a joke . . .
Albeit a thunderingly unfunny one . . . everything she says is, by definition, a joke.

She relies on that to keep her out of jail when she spews her bile and makes statements that -- coming from anyone but an "entertainer" -- would be legally actionable.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:50 PM
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43. Shouldn't Ann be in jail?
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:30 PM
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58. No because the law doesn't apply to those with the "right" political views
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free_belmont Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:09 AM
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33. Freepers are the
lowest form of living things.

Ignorant, stupid, evil and sexually repressed.
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:14 AM
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34. irrational fringe???
The mainstream neocons do that all the time. I'm convinced O'Connor was forced out by Bush himself. And do not be surprised if he tries the same thing with Ginsburg. They would love to replace her with another right-wing fundie.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:43 AM
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35. Republicans would never use Intimidation Tactics
That Anthrax just showed up from God...
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:35 PM
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41. GEE, I thought WE were the "irrational fringe"
the MSM told me so...:sarcasm:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:48 PM
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42. Coulter is a horrible human being...
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:44 PM
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44. Taregt store bomb threat, Victor, NY
occurred coincidentally with the arrest of Claude Allen. Why target Target? The police were good at connecting the dots once they got started.

I urge all police to root out coincidences from our national scene.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:55 PM
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45. Those kind of people are a significant part of the 30% that still
supports W.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:19 PM
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46. The Lunatic Fringe of 33% who still cling to Bush are dangerous crazies
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:28 PM
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47. Is this a telling statement by Ginsburg?
Ginsburg, who turned 73 Wednesday, told the audience O'Connor "remains alive and well — as for me, you can judge for yourself."

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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:23 PM
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48. "...stop relying on foreign laws or court decisions."
So judges should no longer rely on English common law for precedent? The Code of Hammurabi? The Ten Commandments?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:33 PM
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63. Or the Magna Carta or the Napoleonic Code (in Louisiana)
Some people are too stupid to breathe, I swear.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:41 PM
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50. Well, the Freepers are "pro-life"...so they threaten to kill people....
Another fine example of the inconsistent, self-serving, maniacal, and irrational thought patterns known as "Freeper Madness.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:53 PM
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51. "Stupid is as stupid does"
Give rabid, neo-con fascist celebrities a forum and they will rile the rabid, neo-con fascist followers.

As my mom might have said, "They should be pitied, not despised" I'm beginning to see what she meant by that.

Stupid is as stupid does
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:56 PM
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52. Kicked and recommended.
:kick:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:53 PM
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54. Those Rex84 prison camps now have a purpose...
we can use them to house the likes of Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson, and their unbalanced minions.
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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 06:24 PM
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55. Ya know it
I was going to say control information that large numbers of people blindly suck up as 100 percent ironclad gospel truth I would of course install gatekeepers in this worldwide "news" organization. AP in turn feeds millions of small local papers who do not have the resources and or ability to report national breaking news. I take American "media" for what it truely is, propaganda, more specifically corporate propaganda.
http://www.scl.cc/home.php
This link just about spells it out, exactly what this story is.
There is also www.projectcensored.org
Even if you missed a year or two these guys catalog all the really important news that was deemed by TPTB as "stuff" you shouldn't know.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 06:56 PM
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56. Kicked, rated-up and nominated n/t
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:48 PM
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57. where is freeperville mentioned?
i mean I hate to jump to their defense, and certainly the tone sounds about right for them, but the site is not mentioned by name in the article. unless I missed something.

i think the title of this post is mis-leading. sure it COULD be freeperville, but the article doesn't seem to mention the site in question. Putting up a quote that was "on a web site" is tantamount to saying "it says on the Internet." Which is shit journalism, basically.

Just sayin. And again I hate to come across as defensive of that sewer but it seems awfully reactionary to blanket the statement as freeper in the literal sense.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:36 PM
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64. I know you're not defending FR.
And no, it's not mentioned in the article but when I read it the freepers were the first hate group I thought of. I didn't intend for my title to be misleading. If it would have said "Freepers Threaten Supreme Court Justices With Death Threats", then that definintely would be misleading.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:33 PM
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59. John Grisham. Visionary? nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:39 PM
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60. The complete speech is very interesting
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:32 PM
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62. This nation has serious problems. K&R!
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