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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:44 PM
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John Kerry is backing Russ Fiengold!
I just called, I am so proud of my Senator, now for Kennedy...
:bounce:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:46 PM
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1. Good for him
Although it probably is good politics at this point. He's trying to rebuild his reputation as a fighter.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:46 PM
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2. Ask Ted the question...
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:50 PM
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7. I just called Kennedy
He hasn't made his announcement yet, they said he has got quite a few calls, personally I would be surprised if he did not.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:05 PM
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12. I agree. Ted's a good guy.
NGU.


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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:47 PM
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3. GOOD!!!!! I could deal with a Kerry/Feingold ticket nt
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:44 PM
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54. Kerry/Feingold
Gore/Feingold or Feingold/Edwards/Whomever... Feingold made a lot of supporting friends the other day.

WTF is wrong with the other Dems? Spine. They need to be heard with backbone and spine!
:argh:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:48 PM
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4. For President!!??
just kidding. Very good news.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:31 PM
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62. LOL. I wish. n/t
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:48 PM
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5. He's working for us. That is so refreshing. Thank you,sasha.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:49 PM
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6. Thanks.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:55 PM
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8. Too late, as usual
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:56 PM
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Kerry was backing him yesterday, as far as I knew.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:45 PM
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56. You're Poster Says it for me!
Draft Feingold 08!
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:56 PM
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9. Kerry was backing him yesterday, as far as I knew.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:13 PM
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15. see my post below. kerry was iffy yesterday.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:32 PM
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20. Not true.
He was a confirmed yes all day. If you didn't bother to call his office to find out for yourself, or listen to the people who DID call his office, then that's your fault, not his.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:30 AM
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47. No - the press spun it as usual.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:04 PM
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10. IS NOOOOOT!!!
Good grief! :yoiks:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:04 PM
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11. Yes, your post was a little late..... n/t
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:06 PM
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13. Why too late?
Did chimpy already resign or something?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:33 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:33 PM
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26. Too late for what?
May I ask?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:12 PM
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14. and Boxer said yes. (see here from yesterday)


Original Story URL:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408006
Even Democrats leery of Feingold resolution
Proposal to censure Bush met with criticism, questions
By CRAIG GILBERT
cgilbert@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Mar. 13, 2006


......Ahead of leaders

As he has done on such issues as the USA Patriot Act and withdrawal from Iraq, Feingold has stepped out ahead of his party leadership and staked out a position that resonates with many in the party's base. But that position puts other Democrats on the spot and could leave Feingold with few allies in the Senate.

Feingold dismissed criticism that his resolution was politically motivated, saying in an interview that "I'll let the political chips fall where they may."

.........
Among the more supportive Democrats, California Sen. Barbara Boxer said that she could vote for the resolution.

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said of the resolution: "I'm interested in it . . . The president ought to be held accountable, and I think he broke the law."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:14 PM
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16. Kerry was not sure yesterday.


riginal Story URL:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=408006
Even Democrats leery of Feingold resolution
Proposal to censure Bush met with criticism, questions
By CRAIG GILBERT
cgilbert@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Mar. 13, 2006


......Ahead of leaders

As he has done on such issues as the USA Patriot Act and withdrawal from Iraq, Feingold has stepped out ahead of his party leadership and staked out a position that resonates with many in the party's base. But that position puts other Democrats on the spot and could leave Feingold with few allies in the Senate.

Feingold dismissed criticism that his resolution was politically motivated, saying in an interview that "I'll let the political chips fall where they may."

.........
Among the more supportive Democrats, California Sen. Barbara Boxer said that she could vote for the resolution.

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said of the resolution: "I'm interested in it . . . The president ought to be held accountable, and I think he broke the law."
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:27 PM
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19. His office was responding YES yesterday afternoon.
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 05:30 PM by Mass
I called.

In fact the first post I saw (on kos) saying that Kerry's office was answering YES was around 1pm EST.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:34 PM
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22. Not true, tons of people called his office, office said YES.
Why keep repeating this untruth?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:44 PM
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55. GO JOHNNY GO!!!! umm, Mr. Kennedy? - we're waiting!
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:14 PM
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17. that quote was from before yesterday (Kerry)
yesterday he was supporting it (when he got the TEXT)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:16 PM
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18. not that i am aware of. Russ did not hand out the text till after he
presented it on the floor--except for Specter who demanded one as Russ was talking.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:05 PM
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25. How do you know that?
Also Kerry was in Ohio when asked about it. How is he suppose to know immediately, without any details. I'm sure he got in touch with Feingold as soon as he could and then found out more about it. You just don't say yes, to anything until you know the details. Geez.

So quit with the iffy.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:55 PM
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60. As Russ said, Censure at a time with & numbers so low!!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:37 PM
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23. Now I will applaud him.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:56 PM
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24. Yep, I called yesterday and the staff said he's backing Feingold
I hope Kerry gets on the tube about this as soon as possible.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:17 PM
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27. As well he should. How many senators are up for re-election in November?
Those that refuse over and over and over and over to stand up to Bush should not expect support.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:37 PM
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28. He's not. This has nothing to do with 2006 at least.
He's up for re-election in 2008.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:47 PM
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29. Never said it did. I expect Democrats to stand up.
Kerry is doing is job, as are Feingold and Boxer.

Might be time to assess whether those that ARE up for re-election deserve their seats.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:52 PM
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30. Is KERRY pushing to bring a FLOOR VOTE on the censure???????
Supporting Feingold is just bullshit talk if he's certain that a censure vote is not going to happen. What I want to know, "Is Kerry supporting a SENATE FLOOR VOTE on Feingold's censure?" If he is, then I will roundly apologize for my prior Kerry doubts...but I'm not going to hold my breath. I've seen too many instances of Kerry being strong on an issue he knows isn't going anywhere.

J
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:14 PM
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32. I thought they wanted this vetted in committee first?
I thought that was the way they were going to get the issue aired our over a longer period of time and generate some possible media oxygen for it.

This is so confusing. Floor vote first and then hearing? What gives?
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:54 PM
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34. Hearing = Dem Coward Stall / Floor Vote = Standing Up for Constitution.
Talk about a hearing is just a way for those Dems not wanting to vote on censure to stall until they can figure out whether it's politically expedient or not to hold King Chimp accountable for his CRIME.

J
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:35 AM
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39. But what did Feingold want
was he calling for a floor vote vs a hearing?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:40 AM
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40. yes, we need another investigation
:boring:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:42 AM
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41. Shall we wake you up when Fitz is done with his?
How do you think we get from point A to point B without investigations? How do you think Kerry uncovered Iran Contra and shut down BCCI? By shouting on the floor of the Senate? Nah. By investigating.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:49 AM
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42. Why do you think everything is an attack on your guy?
:shrug:

I'm talking in general. They aren't showing any spine. They could take a stand and say: "Stop! "This is wrong." But they fail to back people who do take a stand such as John Murtha, and now Feingold.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:57 AM
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44. I didn't see it as an attack. His was just the handiest example
as a way of showing that investigations aren't always boring.

Like I said, what do you think Fitz is in the middle of. So investigations can be useful. That's what I was saying. Sorry they put you to sleep.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:35 AM
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49. Isn't getting another heairng what Sen. Reid shut down the Senate
for on Nov. 1st? Hearings, real accountability hearings are what the Rethugs are afraid of because they are so damaging to their Fearless Leader and his lies.

We are massively inconsistent on this. No wonder this is having trouble picking up support. What do Democrats want here?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:08 PM
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52. Realistically, hearings in Repub controlled committees are useless
You know this as well as I do. Specter refused to have Gonzales' testimony under oath, remember?

It's going to take bold new ways of speaking out and demonstrating objection to save this country.
I'm thinking walking out, refusing to participate in the charade, appealling directly to the masses to boycott or strike.

Leaders who truly oppose Bush need to show some solidarity with the home folks.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:11 PM
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66. Feingold WANTED it in committee - GOPs wanted to force a quick vote -
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 08:12 PM by blm
Which side are you on?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:35 PM
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36. is Feingold pushing for a floor vote ?
if Feingold wanted that then he would have pushed for that.

it's the Republicans who want a floor vote now since it would mean they would easily defeat it with their majority. and they would get to avoid any debate and discussion of what Bush has done.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:55 PM
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65. True dat.
But maybe he'll surprise us this time.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:53 PM
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31. good to hear
:D
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:39 PM
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33. Kerry is playing it smart, IMO
He's keeping himself acceptable to the Feingold-Kucinich fans in the party, while keeping himself hedged towards the middle enough to compete with Hillary for that group.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:38 AM
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50. Dems need to stop "playing it smart" and just do what is right.
Smacks of flip flop...."playing it smart" does.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:28 PM
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35. Has he done so publicaly?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:40 PM
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37. Who else is coming on board?
We got Kerry and Boxer... Wonder who's next?

Thanks for the post!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:05 AM
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38. If Kerry gets a head of steam, he will be something to see. What gets him
pissed off? I hope we find out because he's got the ability to relaly moilize people.

I want to see him as the focus of opposition.

I want to see him come to life and just
go for it.

Gore did it. I saw his 01/16/06 speech in DC, NEW GUY!!!

Go for it Kerry.

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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:52 AM
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43. So who's the leader here? ...certainly not Kerry n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:22 AM
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45. That's kind of a weird question. No one's insinuating that Kerry's leading
However, he would seem to have Feingold's back on this issue.

What was your point? Seems somewhat non sequitor-ish a comment. Would you rather Feingold had NO support?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:34 AM
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48. Who was on the judiciary committee during Alito? Certain committees are
Edited on Wed Mar-15-06 11:35 AM by blm
obliged to take up specific areas.

Kerry led on Alito because no one else on the judiciary committee would stand with Kennedy.

Censure on this is an appropriate area for the judiciary, AGAIN. This time Feingold stood up.

Using this against Kerry is absurd.

BTW - who all signed the Downing Street Memos letter of inquiry?

Who stood with Kerry when he called for Rumsfeld to be fired after Abu Ghraib?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:29 AM
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46. Thank God a few are getting on board, now!
Better late than never, but what the heck is taking them so long to make up their minds?
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:49 AM
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51. Good for Kerry!
With his support of the filibuster and now this, he is being a good Democrat.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:42 PM
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53. Rec'd Email from Kerry today.
He's right on the ball and backs Fiengold. Wish I knew how mine felt. They're phone lines are BUSY, BUSY, BUSY today like never, ever before.

:kick:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:49 PM
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57. Where's Murtha & Kennedy???
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:51 PM
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58. Tom Harkin is supporting Russ Fiengold
Most of the Senators lines are quite busy today

I truely believe our calls are making a difference



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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:53 PM
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59. GO Harkin - bout time this train started rolling!
Viva Russ Feingold Viva Russ Feingold!!!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:00 PM
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61. yesterday I was skeptical about calling Senators about this
I have changed my mind a 180 degrees, it does make a difference

The lines are quite busy to the Senator's offices today

I have to believe it is because of this


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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:38 PM
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63. This is good news. Maybe he'll get on board with Harkin
and offer to cosponsor. That would be a concrete, on-the-record indication of real support.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:38 PM
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64. good for Kerry!
:thumbsup:
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