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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:28 AM
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The KID who TAPED HIS TEACHER sought to do NO GOOD
If the kid sought to do good, he would have brought the issue up with the teacher FIRST, then the Principal, then the school board. If he was afraid or intimidated by the teacher, he should have gone to the Principal or another teacher. Instead, HE TAPED IT AND SENT IT TO FOX NEWS. What good came of THAT?!

This kid was acting on his FATHER's (A RW NUTCASE) instructions, and if anyone doesn't want to blame the kid, they should blame his father. Personally, I think the kid should know better and I'M COMPLETELY SURPRISED by those here that continue to DEFEND him given what has come out on this story.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:32 AM
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1. I agree with you completely...
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:34 AM
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2. Exactly.
This was a set-up from the very beginning. And it has been successful.

Personally, I am glad to hear that the little shit is having to suffer some consequences for his bad behavior. I hope he winds up getting his ass kicked at whatever school he transfers to. A snitch is a snitch.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:38 AM
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6. What consequences has he suffered?
I haven't followed this story since it first broke so I don't know what happened recently. I know that I didn't buy the kid's explanation that he was intimidated by the teacher. If you're that scared of someone I don't see how taping him and forcing him into the national spotlight is going to help matters--unless he's a child molester or something.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:34 AM
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3. Right Wing tactics can back fire on you.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:37 AM
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4. He might be angling for a job with Fox like Heather Nauert.
She was the student in Al Gore's college class who spied, took her spying and criticism public and got a job at Fox.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:37 AM
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5. People on here have defended the kid?
I find that hard to believe, although anything would surprise me.

I will say that politics by and large should be kept out of the classroom except in a discussion forum where the kids are allowed to give/explain their opinions. But teachers should probably keep it to themselves. But that's not an ideological thing rather than I think the best teachers direct and facilitate discussion rather than voice opinions on things.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:38 AM
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7. This has its roots with David Horriblewitz
And his campaign against education. There was a group offering money to UCLA students to tape their instructors being "leftist" and another site that was offering IPODS to college students if they got video of a "left-wing" professor.

It's a witch hunt. I wonder if I had wired up my kid and had him tape his social studies teacher, who spouted right wing talking points all day, if that would outrage anyone.

Probably not. It didn't even outrage me to know that my kid was hearing the "other side" in school. I figured that was the point, and made sure he heard the counter argument when he got home.

I guess these RW parents don't feel so secure about their beliefs. They think their children have to practice "intellectual abstinence" in order to stay party-pure.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:26 PM
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17. You're right, Horowitz was encouraging paying snitches to spy on
college professors, the same way this little brownshirt was encouraged by his father ~ but as I recall, when the filthy little Nazi scheme 'let's-get-college-professors' was exposed and it was revealed that another snitch, not content only with destroying lives, but willing to pay and be paid for it, the coward, Horowitz tried to distance himself from his role in it, after he saw the horrified reaction of decent people everywhere.

This cowardly little snitch ought to read this account told by a woman who was a child during the reign of the Nazis in Germany ~ I imagine she would have someone like him to thank for what happened to her back then ~

We will soon hear of six-year-olds reporting on their classmates lack of loyalty to the 'leader' if something isn't done to instill some kind of standards of behavior beforethis country ends up going down the same path as Germany in the '30s. There have been enough warning signs now that ought to alarm decent people enough to at least warn their children about the Horowitzs of the world before it's too late.

'Enabling' the Patriot Act
by Doris Colmes




At the end of the school year of June, 1938, my parents received a polite, but firm letter from Dr. Gregor Ziemer, headmaster of "The American School of Berlin," stating that Jewish children were no longer permitted to attend. It was the only school I’d ever known, from kindergarten up through fifth grade, and I loved it. My older sisters liked it, too, because – amongst other things – there were a lot of cute American boys in attendance and everybody spoke English. It wasn’t just American School, though: Jewish kids were no longer allowed into any schools whatsoever.

This rejection was based on an edict formulated by the German "Enabling Act" of 1933, which gave the Nazi government incalculable powers over individuals, groups, and targeted population components. As a matter of fact, the German "Enabling Act" of 1933 is remarkably similar to our current Patriot Act, which – according to an Associated Press release to the Portland Oregonian of June 4, 2005 – is currently up for revisions not only giving it expanded powers well beyond those it already has, but making it permanent, just like the German Enabling Act was made permanent. (The more one compares the Nazi Germany "Enabling Act" with the U.S.A. "Patriot Act," the more they appear to be Siamese twins.)


http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/colmes2.html

It starts with little incidents like this kid running with his tape to the propaganda machine, or the other one, paying 'young republicans' to spy on college professors ~ their zeal fueled by hate radio, turning them into vile, hatefilled potential Nazis.

The good thing is that so far, they have been met with only disgust by most people ~ even Republicans I know found this to be thoroughly reprehensible and in the end, it may do more to cause them to distance themselves from what is looking more and more like a party no decent human being would want to admit to being associated with.

Someone said 'there were no Nazis in Germany after the war'. I have a feeling that in ten years it will be hard to find anyone who remembers supporting this regime either.

As for the snitch in this case, he couldn't even stand up for his convictions (whatever they were) as expected from someone like him, he didn't have the guts to back to the school and defend his behavior. But we're supposed to believe he'll join the military sometime in the future? :rofl:

I think the miliatary is safe from his kind ~ as they were from his idols, Cheney et al.

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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:33 PM
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19. Doris' story is truly chilling
Thanks for sharing that.

When does it come to children turning in their parents?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:39 AM
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8. there is no defense of the kid
at all.

He's a little RW attention seeking freak, just like his father. They were trying to make someone LOSE his job for having an opinion. Nothing less. They were trying to punish the guy, and incite national mob violence against him, and they are both evil gutless asswipes.

Those of us here who support the kid are confused, but I'll be happy to explain it to them in short sentences using tiny words.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:44 AM
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9. ...
:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:46 AM
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11. check out Donald
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:44 AM
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10. The fact that he sent it to FAUX should tell everything
If they are sending things like this to FAUX, they must be regular FAUX viewer and therefore have the mentality to deduce that this sort of behavior is normal and reasonable.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:46 AM
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12. I guess I must have missed this story completely
:shrug:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:49 AM
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14. check my thread
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:49 AM
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13. Playing the tape for his father was the first sign of stink
From what I understand, it was daddy that shopped it around to the right-wing radio stations. It sounds like daddy was on a mission and jr wanted to help out and make daddy proud.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:50 AM
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15. The kid has a future in the new GOP
Ignore proper procedure, forget dialogue, no common sense.

Just go for the gutter press, splash the story nation-wide and smear, smear, smear.

Then, when it blows over, on to the next scandal.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:50 AM
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16. You're Correct!
He's a braindead little punk with a braindead dad who was looking to make a point that was apropos of nothing.

And, this "involved" father might have just called the teacher to say he didn't approve of the rhetoric in the classroom as a first effort. But, that didn't happen either.
The Professor
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:08 PM
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18. He's probably going to get a RW media job
along with that "kid who vacationed in Baghdad" in December 2005 . . .
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