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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:10 AM
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Your Input on crating a hand card/lit drop off piece
The feedback I have received from DU'ers has been first rate.

I'd like to get your input for a piece for our US Senate raxe in RI.

It will be targetting Democrat primary voters.

REMEMBER THIS IS YOUR FEDERAL SEAT AND YOUR THOUGHTS COUNT!



Overall Background would be the Constitution with We the People showing

Carl SHEELER…A working United States Senator
“of, for and by the people of RI” Head shot w/RI & US Flag
Family Man & US Marine Vet.
Democratic Party “Outsider”
Business Owner & Educator
I’m running because I’m fed up with….

Plastic politicians who have broken their promises to
our middle class families, our children and our seniors.

Bought and paid for politicians who place special interest
access above their duty of public service.

Weak politicians who are more worried about their
incumbency than talking straight to everyday folks.



I’m going to win because….

Voters like you want Democrats, not aristocrats.

I’m a fighter. (Impeach Bush – Anti-War Advocate).

Rhode Islanders are fed up with insider politicians.

I’m an honest, middle-class, people person.


May I have your support?

Please help by contacting people you know.

Sport your support with lawn sign or bumper sticker.

Write a letter to editor or call in to the radio.

Mark your calendar. September 12th primaries!!!!


WWW.CARLSHEELER.COM


side 2

Carl SHEELER… A working United States Senator
“of, for and by the people of RI”

“Common sense solutions to real world issues”

OUR Rhode Island FAMILIES FIRST Constitutional Covenant

- End the Iraq War & the millionaire/large corporation tax rip-offs
If we used these hundreds of billions of dollars and invested them in our
communities and cutting edge technologies like stem cell research (bio-tech)
and alternative energy, we'd have more jobs and a cleaner environment.

- Promote quality public education, not more property tax increases
My wife and I have five kids and double-digit property tax increases with
two college age kids. Our Congress must allocate more funding for K –
College. Initiating a federal lottery would help relieve cost.

-Healthcare is a national imperative for our families, young and seniors
Our family spends $13,000 annually on healthcare insurance premiums. In RI
and elsewhere it’s an unacceptable “have and have not” issue. We need leaders
fighting for the public, not for insurance and pharmaceutical lobbyists.

- Promises kept community initiatives
Our elected officials must become accessible to everyday people, maintain a
culturally diverse staff and end “double speak”. If equality and rights were a
mandate, we could focus on the needs of all Americans, not just a few.

Suggestions, Comments, Concerns or Support….

Sheeler for US Senate
592 Hopkins Hill Road 807 Broad Street #246
West Greenwich, RI 02817 Providence, RI 02913

PH: (401) 397-4618
FX: (401) 397-1894
EM: carl@carlsheeler.com
www.carlsheeler.com


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gizmonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:03 AM
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1. Keep the palm card simple...
People will not read it if it's too wordy. Pick a couple of bullet points you want to emphasize.

Also, use a union printer -- people will notice if the union bug is not on your lit.

These were a few things I learned when I worked on a friend's campaign when she ran for County Recorder in Ohio.

I hope it helps.

Good luck :thumbsup:

gizmonic:hi:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:05 AM
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2. great points
also - jobs are big - job creation/retention might be a good bullet point.

People are fed up with outsourcing.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:57 PM
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3. Thanks for feedback It all helps
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Who are your oppenents? Their back grounds?
Also: use Positivity, state your goals in specific terms...What do you see for America in the Future and how you can help to get there....,

jus me, Opi
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:37 PM
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5. Hey Opi. Positive is good. Sometimes it's hard to remember
Opponents are ivy league elites with no genuine connection to the middle class. Both are opportunists who believe they were bred for the office with nominal leadership traits or original ideas. Both are being advised from and by DC.

Matt Brown/Sheldon Whitehouse. Brown is skidding early and Sheldon is getting traction, but is not well liked by certain groups for a myriad of reasons too lengthy to cover here.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:15 PM
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7. Party? are they Pubs/Dems?
How can you present yourself as the man of IDEAS...the good kind? Let5s see some innovative thought here...get those juices flowing...

Differenciate yourself from the ordinary,,,come up with some things from Level 2 and ...if you can...Level 3...

Go way above Level 1 where most pols are...
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. You mean like establishing a national lotttery to create
funds for education accounts for each person (to be applied to additional educational or college) like a 401k. Use it or lose it with the fund accruing value.

Or instead of tax cuts for the wealthy, higher tax deductions for contributions to educational trusts...... for low and moderate income families with gifted children.

Or corporations who offshore must pay $50,000 per employee that has his/her job lost for education and/or retraining.

Ah baby I have a million.

How about government sanctioned gambling aboard airplanes with 10% of proceeds going to Uncle Sam?

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Lottery bad, Tax Cuts for wealthy is a bad idea, grossly unfair;
Gambling on airplanes not good idea too.

Those are level one stuffs

Get on level Two and Three

Think BIG

Hurricane/Tornado proof Cities, engineered for energy efficiency and comfort safety.

Energy Research in how to get most uses for the BTU burned.

Etc etc

New and better food crops, fruit trees, live stock....raised in cost efficient ways

New cities w rooftop food production units, parks, restuarants, etc.

New Infrastructure: bridges and highways upgrading.,..

New systems to train our LEADERS to win with innovative and benevolent approaches....

jus a few.... opi
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. Great thoughts. What are the % of intellectuals voting in primaries?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. prolly in the range of 1 %
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 12:31 PM by opihimoimoi
edit: BTW, you didn't answer the question of WHO your opponents are and their affiliation... learn to answer the question without distraction/deflection...if ya do this in debates, you will make yourself more credible and gain more respect.

Avoid being a noob.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Lost them to editting
Sheldon Whitehouse and Matt Brown in primary. Stephen Laffey or Lincoln Chafee in general.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. Ah ha reread #5 I thought I had dropped the ball.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Are they Pub or Dems/Indies/Greens???
Not in #5...except the last guy who must be a Pub...I will assume the first two are Dems

Your reaction thus far indicates an almost flippant attitude toward improving your Odds this Fall. Look at your answers to me and think....

What do you see???



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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Not commonly flip. Do most everything for a purpose.
I'm crispy, so forgive me if I'm not following.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. What do you see? A good Leader analyzes....show me....
If I am to help, I must know where to start....
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. Examines outcomes, Analyzes Causes, Takes Action, Repeat
Seeks consultation from broad array of backgrounds to expand perspective.

But must be more than a leader as this is not Governorship or President, it is a voice weighing in amongst 99 others, so must be able to speak with wisdom and conviction and persuade with strength and guile.

Starting is to provide a reason for the public that answers "Why me, why now, why you and how?"
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Go to post 21....and answer the question please....
PhD eeehhh?
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. People want a sense that their basic values are intact
Fairness and hardwork equals properity and safety for their family.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. Level One stuff, gimme more??? Get those Neurons cranking
I know ya can do it...you got the PhD....

Get beyond the passe...thats Bushies Level

And, may I please ask again?....Whos is this? The real Deal Carl???

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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. Yes, it is the "real" Carl
Carl is a hands on person with a degree of naivetee and empathy some my find endearing. I am an out of the box thinker that challenges conventional wisdom.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs meets the requirement of shared responsibility. A common vision that can be achieved in a measureable way that the public is willing to step away from the comfort zones to achieve "the win".

In a global environment it must have characteristics of fairnesss and benefits to all.

I am struggling with the impediment of most thinking the WIIFM... what's in it for me, which confines our progress?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. Maslow's Hierarchy..written in 43, updated twice, is a bit outdated
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:47 PM by opihimoimoi
which many find it to be pyschobabble. Untestable is the Key word.

Nevertheless, his works are contributions toward explaining our Society.

Do not struggle with the WIIFM thingy unless you have conceptualized some solutions/theories/etc on solving.

Out of the Box thinker, how so???

Trying to help you guy...help me help you...

BTW, I would appreciate a better response to post 17...which you gave me 2.7 seconds to do...rudely inadequate and insensitive..

Opi
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. In short we have to do some climbing to exceed the vision
of our forefathers who drafted our enduring Constitution.

Of, for and by....

Hard work and fairness

for the many, not the few

freedoms and rights

I'm comfortable in saying the backdrop of the billboard was selected for a reason

Neither party has rights to the concepts forged that we have a duty to rise above partisanship to provide our Republic's citizen's the benefit of health, opportuniy through education and equality.

This requires a unified public commitment as Kennedy asked for with the aspiration to be the first on the moon. I see ours as being the first nation to become fossil fuel dependent and to create spinal damage cures with stem cell research, but that does not ensure "Joe and Jane Q Public" a sense of security (physical and financial) they have come to expect and their trepidation that politicians are corrupted by power.

My concepts while I would love to be lofty MUST connect to everyday folks who have heard it all before and for the life of me I am wrestling with the brief communication that inspires and requires action.

Don't allow yourself to be "insulted" because your perceptions are yours to define and refine. I think I read that recently.....
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. No signs of OUT OF THE BOX THINKING and missing are the answers
to the many questions I asked of you, posts 30 and 17 in particular...If you debate with vague answers you will come off as untested and Not Ready for Prime Time...

Convince me you are ready for the Big Act of being one of our Nations Senators...

Convince me you are ready and able to Learn How to not Embarrass yourself should you achieve the Seat/Rank/Office.

Convince me you can DEBATE and WIN...

I am not Insulted else I wouldn't be helping you...

You "See America as being the First Nation to become fossil fuel DEPENDENT????"

What are your Lofty Concepts...which may or may not help in connecting to everyday folk? How do you plan to broadcast your messages/ thoughts/etc so that they have high odds of connecting??

I am pushing you for I feel you need it..Your approach is not very different than others...You should be looking for ways to connect in a high odds way....

Opi
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #35
36. I believe you're to caught up in the how......
read....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=680762&mesg_id=683998

... My reality is if the will and support of the American people is there the ideas are not lofty. We have millions of courageous and bright people to lead, develop and implement. They just need a direction.

Enough said.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. But but...I am only a high school grad, not too bright, and consider
myself pretty much average.....

Retired from Gov't for 11 years now and just cruising along...

Could you please implement me with a direction so we can be on the same page?

Opi
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Read
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. Its so generic...Carl, we gatta do better than that...everyone else is
saying those same things.

Its definitely not out of the box thinking...

Think of your position...

BTW, how long have you been in the Dem Party? What have you done to elicit help the Dem Party regulars...?

and, as a Catholic myself...where do you stand on the hot button issues, choice? Gay marriage? etc....
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. Silence of the Lambs Time??? Where are your thoughts, your Reasons for
Running for SENATOR???


How long have you been in the Dem Party? How long has it been since you left the Pub Party?

You have been on the DU for 6 weeks.....?

You must realize we have noses for lurkers/ freeps/ etc....

I suspect you ain't running seriously...more like a MOLE coming here for a LOOK SEE at what you can take back to the PUBs..

I suspect very strongely...YOU ARE A SPY.... a PUB SPY at that....if true, DESPICABLE and so PUBESQUE....


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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Okay
Matt Brown and Sheldon Whitehouse are Democrats. Political insiders who do not connect well with middle class. Stephen Laffey is Cranston Mayor. A wildman who frightens RI'ers and is a favorite to win the primary against GOP Lincoln Chafee.

Their strengths is they have all held political office. Chafee is very likeable. Laffey is too autocratic. MB and SW are too stiff. I don't see vision from any of them, but if money is the issue SW will win in primary.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. took 50 hours to answer, lol...
MB and SW are Stiff with no Vision Dems. They do not connect well....How so? Can you connect better and How So? OOPs...campaign secret. sorry.

Pub Autocratic Laffey is a laugh but will win against likeable Pub Chafee..how is that?

If Spending become factor SW has the ODDs

Correct?

In the end, you are the newcomer to the scene....

Name recognition?? What is your poll number? How many out there in RI knows of you?

Would they vote for you?

What made them vote for you?

The Perception.

How can you get Perception UP?

Think...think higher, be clever, be Logical, use math, but what can you and your staff come up with.

BTW, how many on your staff? or is that secret....?

Have you been going to debate school? What Level?? 200 class, 300 class?

What are your odds....long shot...? Early Fave?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #30
44. still waiting....what is taking so long???
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:59 PM
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6. TOO much text!!! WAY TOO MUCH!!!
You have about 15 seconds to get their attention and get your point across. Ditch 98% of that text and go to simple one line statements (no more than three!) along with the campaign website addy or contact info for further info.

Average people get bogged down visually by too much text and they just skip it--thus you have wasted your chance to get their attention (and vote!)

Just my two cents.


Laura
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Says volumes when you don't say anything huh?
Point well taken.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Also use spell check...
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 09:45 PM by hootinholler
Read your OP, atrocious and sloppy, I almost replied that I prefer wooden crates. I notice things like that in lit, especially from someone who potentially will be hiring a staff to make sure he know the important bits.

Simple is better, you want to draw them in now, explain later.

Have a phone number for more info in addition to the web address. Have all phone calls returned and the people doing that must stay gently on message and gather information from the public in addition to giving information.

When they call or visit the website, ask them for addresses (email and physical), these are gold for you to follow up delivering positive messages.

-Hoot

On Edit, you might think of a broom instead of the constitution, but you already have the Constitution theme going with the billboard going.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. I agree, KISS: Keep it simple stupid is an ole cliche.
Graphics and simple theme words..strong message and to the point.

Wording very important...avoid over use of Buzz Words.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. Agreed. Do you know what the unified message is for DEMS?
or for that matter DU's.... I'm not waiting, but it would be nice to be mutually supportive.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. The Dem Party has a rich History of supporting what is best for the
Common Good

I would characterize the Party as The Positive Force and the Republicans as the Negative Force.

If we read the Party's background....I am sure you will concur.

Have you run for High Office previously? If so, you have 10 miles to catch up. But its not impossible. Its been done before.

As a Dem, you should be aware of our History/Goals/Direction/etc. Take the time to read..you won't regret it

As a candidate, take us on a trip with your words, give us HOPE, Inspire us, Teach us, Inform us, Show us why we should BELIEVE in you AND the DEM PARTY>

If you have to, get not one but 2 or 3 speech people on the staff. Get a very good speech writer to accentuate the Goodness in Mankind....we already know the bad stuff...Bush is always telling us what we already know...in a condescending manner at that. Please, for your own good, avoid the Bush approach.

As a man, read, read, read. Learn different subjects in many areas as best as you can. Time? Make the time...whatever you do, people will be using Bush as a joke when it comes to knowing things...for fast track...use GOOGLE...from Mango's to cows, from Global warming to Carpentry, learn city planning, energy usage, etc.

Make your own buzz word lexicon. Benevolence, Generosity, Helping, teaching by examples, pro-to types, proving grounds, Altruism, Liberalism, Sharing, Caring, etc...the Positive side of things

Learn to use a few tools to avoid the Bush Photo op gurly man thing( I know I know) its a habit. put some callouses on your hands.
go pound a few dozen nails, cut a few pieces of wood...and use the tape measure, lol.

Above all, your basic philosophy will emerge during these next 7 months and a few days. If you have intellect, a reservoir of wit,
timing, knowledge, humor, you prolly will have better odds.

Then, last, make learning YOUR priority not someone else's. Sure, you need researchers etc but...it would be best to arouse the curious part of your brain to do it yourself...this way, you avoid the Bush Syndrome...Go read his speeches...he is always being TOLD what to say...comes off as stupid.

There ya have it my friend...If ya want it, ya gatta pull up the pants and GO GET IT.

Opi
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Opi, a guru of the first order. Thanks for wisdom.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. Is this the best from you, a 2.7 second answer??
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #26
45. Where is your answer please...its been awhile already???
Show us why we should help you be a Senator and if, successful...what would you promote/sponsor/introduce/advocate??
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. Whaaaa? No answer...after 3 days...almost 4.....? Very SUSPICIOUS
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. Good suggestions Thanks
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:07 PM
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29. my impressions
I don't have any great insider advice, but I can give you my impressions as a Dem since you have to focus on the primary first

the issues that jump out at me are energy independence / environmental responsibility, Health care, Education, National Defense, and Economy - you might want to bullet point these topics so it is easy for the eye to find.

Under National Defense you could point out money being wasted and incompetence regarding Iraq - but make it forward looking, we can't go back and change the fact that we did invade and now Iraq is in turmoil. Maybe try to focus on the fact that we need a legislative branch that actually has checks and balances so that no bid contracts are minimized, and that hearings, investigations, a Iraq commission something is done to cut through the ideology and find the best way to bring out troops home

Also, just my impression - but the anti-aristocrat, anti-insider doesn't grab my attention on literature. If I see a speech by a candidate, it might be more important to get the "feel" of that position across.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 09:07 PM
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40. I made antiBush flyers in 04 for Kerry, that were B&W, mocking...
I targeted likely democratic voters with typically low turnout. I made sure my flyers had derogatory unflattering imagery combined with actual quotes.

Examples:

























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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Rose...You is da BEST
Beautiful, Creative, TO THE POINT, and a very damaging REMINDER for peeps to connect the dots.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #41
42. We absolutely must learn to mock our opponents, use imagery to
draw the eye, use B&W to give it a gritty real feel and save $ on printing. Stuff like this costs $.04 a piece. It is very popular. George W. Bush is a Punk Ass Bitch was so popular in the 3 weeks leading up to the election I almost couldn't afford my Kinkos bill. People wanted it, they kept it and many did not even fold it to put in their pocket because they didn't want to mar it.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:12 PM
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43. If I could, I be sending you Fine Wine and Caviar with Lavosh,
Roast duck, pig, smoked salmon, etc

and Music too, the whole Band....
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:06 PM
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48. Is Carl a DINO???? Democrat In Name Only??? Let him come forward
and Speak to us
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:18 PM
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49. A candidate calling for Impeachment a DINO? Surely you jest. (nt)
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