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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:55 PM
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So Vanity Fair put in the same exact lies about Abramoff & Democrats
http://www.vanityfair.com/pdf/pressroom/advance_Abramoff.pdf

Democrats, too, mainly in the Senate, could do Abramoff favors, and, while they may have abhorred his politics, his money still smelled good. They got more than a million dollars

(it's on Page 3 of the PDF)

AAARRRRGGGGGG

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Democrats never received money from Jack Abramoff. I mean, the article so far is pretty good with exposing the lies the Republicans are telling about their relationship with Jack. But a 2 minute check on a site like Open Secrets (lists all donations made & received in politics) and you'll see the obvious:

Democrats never took one dime from Jack Abramoff. Many have received monies from the Indian tribes that did business with Abramoff, but it was the money that Abramoff was scamming from these tribes that he was using to make donations to the republican party

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_donor.asp

There's the list and there isn't a single democrat or democratic group on it
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:01 PM
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1. That's more assinine ramblings from a reporter who FEARS being labeled
a liberal, so they bend the facts to make them "appear" to be "fairly" spreading blame even where blame doesn't exist.

I've heard it and seen it from too many supposedly left "pundits" and reporters. Especially on broadcast cable shows.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:03 PM
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3. Must balance the truth with some lies. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:02 PM
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2. Let's see now:
Money paid by Abramoff:
Republicans: 100%
Democrats 0%

Proportion of Congressmen indicted, guilty or being investigated for corruption:
Republicans: 100%
Democrats 0%

Elections stolen since 2000 in favor of:
Republicans: 100%
Democrats 0%

Politicians who shot someone in the face and then blamed the victim:
Republicans: 100%
Democrats 0%

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:04 PM
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4. Not to mention, once Abramoff started representing
the tribes, the amount of money that Democrats received from the tribes actually DECREASED, with Repugs getting more $$.

Great catch with the VP article, though. I haven't read it yet, just the outtakes on dailykos.
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:18 PM
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5. Send James Wolcott an email...
james@jameswolcott.com

He's a regular contributor to VF, he's a great leftie, and his blog is widely read (www.jameswolcott.com). Contacting him might be a good way to get the ball rolling.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:28 PM
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6. sorry LynneSin - I did not see your thread here on this until
you replied to mine here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x607221

I feel your pain on the Democrat thing, also

"I gotta have more cow bell":rofl:

Nominated!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:43 PM
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7. i can't find that on page three
i found this at the top of page four:
"democrats insist that the Abramoff scandal is strictly a republican affair. of the more than $200,00 he gave away of his personal money, not a dime went to democrats. he always stipulated that his lobbying activities accord with his stuanchy conservative beliefs."


that don't sound too bad.

where on page three are you talking about?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:50 PM
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8. 2nd to last paragraph in the 3rd column on page 3
Starts out..."What they are all interested in..."

it is in the last part of the paragraph.

Hope this helps
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:56 PM
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9. saw it. thanks.
kind of doesn't jive with the paragraph i copied from page four does it? i don't get it. (yes, they took money. wait! no they didn't. this isn't clear)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:59 PM
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11. I think we all need to write letters to Vanity Fair about this
and hopefully one of us will get an LTTE with a clarification about the issue. I mean, I feel like I'm being a really party-pooper here with the thread but it is in there and it's a fact that democrats never received a dime from Abramoff. And yet even with this obvious fact that can be looked up through Open Secrets, republicans and MSM are trying to spin the issue that democrats had received money
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 04:06 PM
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12. possible contact information in post#5 - and NO you are NOT
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 04:08 PM by stop the bleeding
being a party pooper, issues like this need to be clarified for the simpletons out there.

Great catch BTW

on edit here is the contact info for LITE

letters@vf.com
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:57 PM
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10. It was page #3 of the PDF file but the left hand side
I mean, the article comes off pretty damning to the republicans but it would have been nice to clarify that the money democrats received were from the tribes only and NOT Abramoff directly. Also there was a mention that when Abramoff started to work for them the money to dems started to decrease.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 04:13 PM
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13. Media has to blame us to make the Repukes look
better.... I don't doubt for a minute that is why they are doing this....
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