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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:04 PM
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The Unknown --- by Donald Rumsfeld
Depends on What the Meaning of ‘Know’ Is


Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, today:

I will say this about Iran. They are currently putting people into Iraq to do things that are harmful to
the future of Iraq. And we know it.


Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Peter Pace, moments later:

PACE: The most recent reports have to do with individuals crossing the border into Iraq.

QUESTION: Do you believe it’s backed by the government or are they individual elements not backed by the
central government?

PACE: I do not know.

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2006/tr20060307-12619.html


Confused?

The Unknown
by Donald Rumsfeld

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/03/07/depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-know-is/
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:06 PM
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1. Gen. Pace has turned out to be a bit of a disappointment after he
courageously slapped down Rumsfeld in the press conference stating unequivicably that if US soldiers see abuse going on they have a duty to TRY and stop it.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:31 PM
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9. I'm sure either he or his family was threatened..........
to within inches of their lives because of that!

Or maybe his pension or retirement was threatened!

Or maybe they threatened to court martial him for "adultery" for that affair he had with some Captain 35 years ago!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:07 PM
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2. I don't know about that.
Who knows? :shrug: :kick: :hi:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:08 PM
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3. I know one thing, rumsfeld ought to be hung.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:08 PM
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4. I think this all plays into their love of playing ignorant
Ignorance wouldn't help any one of us! Yet they cling to it. We didn't know the levees would break, we didn't know the WMD intelligence was bad... blah blah blah...
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:09 PM
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5. I know
that I don't believe a dam word he says!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:18 PM
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6. he really said that?
and still has a job
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:20 PM
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7. nothing that comes out of the mouths of the members of this
administration shock me anymore. :crazy:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:27 PM
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8. He knew where the WMD's
were too. Near Tikrit,... East, West, North and South somewhat. Ain't that right Don?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:44 PM
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10. Unknowns be damned
It's war all the time with these clowns. It doesn't seem to matter who dies as long as someone is dying.
:argh:
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