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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:23 PM
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GOP Bills Would Allow Warrantless Wiretapping
GOP Bills Would Allow Warrantless Wiretapping

Posted by Eric Jaffa
March 7, 2006 @ 4:03 pm

A proposal by Senator Mike DeWine (R-OH) for more warrantless spying:

would also give the president the authority to create a list of terror organizations to be monitored.

His bill does not require that the terror groups must be foreign. Nor does it rely on the State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organization list, which is often used in government as a reference about which organizations are considered most dangerous.

When asked last week why he didn’t use the State Department’s list, DeWine said he wanted to give the president flexibility, particularly so he did not have to come to Congress to update the organizations that could be monitored.

“You might have a terrorist group come up in six months that would be equally as bad as al-Qaida,” DeWine said.

Would this be a secret list, in which any members of an organization ONE MAN decides is a terrorist group could be spied on without a warrant?

That isn’t democracy.

A democracy involves things like inalienable rights and checks and balances.

A new group of terrorists may come along. Fine, then get a warrant.

http://www.speakspeak.org/speak-blog/2006/03/07/gop-bills-would-allow-warrantless-wiretapping/
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:24 PM
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1. Even court conservative will strike that down
They'll have to amend the constitution to get that.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:26 PM
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2. The courts will strike it down.
The Constitution has to be amended to allow what Dewiney wants.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:47 PM
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7. It's amazing, he has been breaking the law for 4 years-- he MUST be
held accountable.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:27 PM
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3. Good
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 07:30 PM by bluestateguy
President Hillary Clinton can have lots of fun with that new power to spy on the Christian Coalition, the Club for Growth, the Heriatge Foundation and every conservative columnist and talk radio host in America.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:31 PM
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4. A retroactive bid to avoid impeachment.
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CovertOP Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:39 PM
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5. Orwell is bi-partisan
John Kerry has sponsored something called the Win Act. It sounds innocent enough and touts the "benefit" of bringing broadband internet to "rural" america.
But remeber this is a wireless system which means all of you banking, credit card, preferences and everything is transmitted over a wide radius and super easily intercepted.
What this means is more radio frequency spectrum, unused old TV channels reallocated to broadband.
The industry is having an orgasm of commercial profits over this to the tune of 7 billion.
Imagine, wireless Orewllian surveillance devices everywhere, cheaply.
Oh, but its WEP encoded you say....Well, who do you think drew up the specs for the encoding scheme in the first place.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:44 PM
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6. This states that Bush broke and is breaking the law- to try to make
something retroactively legal it must be illegal at the moment.

This is an admission of his guilt by the lawmakers.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:47 PM
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8. "wanted to give the president flexibility"
with no oversight; an invitation for totalitarianism.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:49 PM
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9. Great way to Bash DeWine in Ohio
We need MoveOn type groups who target Republicans for going against thier supposed values. For example this ports deal, individual liberties, big government, etc.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:24 PM
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10. Again, it just proves the illegality of the program, it's an admission
that the program is illegal.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:34 PM
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11. A BILL does NOT trump the US Constitution. Only an Amendment can do that .
Bush went against the US Constitution that he swore to "preserve, protect, and defend". He has broken the law of the land repeatedly and unabashedly. They shouldn't be trying to pass an unconstitutional "law" in an attempt to cover for him they should be looking at kicking the ANTI-American UNPatriotic criminal and his cabal OUT of OUR White House and put someone with REAL integrity and smarts in place after the November election and the Dems are back in power.


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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:41 PM
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12. The phony bastards. They never even went after Bin Laden!
They were too busy using Iraq to loot our treasury!
Hell, they sell 21 ports out to a terrorist money laundering COUNTRY -not company-.
And that country spewed out 2 of the 9-11 terrorists.

WTF?

This crap better blow over soon. Any Dem in power better stop their complicity with the PNACsters immediately or we MUST vote them out too.
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