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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:36 PM
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Poll question: Zogby Poll email
Which is the best tax system if we change what we currently have? After you vote explain why you voted that way so we can educate everyone

I'm not sure IF I know what a VAT( valued added tax) on each step of production and it's consequences?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:39 PM
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1. Sales taxes are notoriously regressive
hurting lower income people more than upper income people. Income taxes are progressive, on the other hand.

Doesn't anybody here know about economics 101?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:42 PM
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3. ^^^^
What CTyankee said. This is all about shifting the burden further onto the middle class and poor.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:40 PM
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2. More progressive income tax without all the loopholes.
Just make the rich pay their fair share of income taxes. Basically, undo what Reagan and Bush did to push the tax burden onto the backs of the middle class.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:42 PM
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4. You are correct.
Sales taxes give us the worst of the regressive world, just as flat tax does.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:47 PM
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7. Yep. I'd say get rid of Social Security tax too.
It is horribly regressive. Just make it part of a progressive income tax and only pay SS to those who need it instead of giving checks to millionaires. Of course, most people over 60 will cry bloody murder if anyone tried to do that.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:25 PM
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9. Absolutely.
Mostly peopple over sixty are the ones who are against schools, against roads, against taxes, they drive me crazy the old skinflints!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:55 PM
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11. Who you callin' a skinflint?
I'm over 60 and I don't begrudge my tax money going for roads (which I use), municipal services (which I need and use) and for schools which make my community better and stronger.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:44 PM
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5. Yep, I'm with you--no choice for that, though n/t
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:45 PM
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6. Actuall I beleive in no tax :) - Sales tax will tax consumption
& you will get all your pay up front. Will cut out all the 'rich mans' loop holes. If you are a smart consumer - buy used - this will benefit you. Also, will make corp. pay taxes on what they consume.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 05:49 PM
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8. OTHER!
Our current system is corrupt and gives the rich and corporate a free ride on our backs.

We need a progressive income tax system tied to the median wage to be assessed yearly in economically stable times, quarterly in times of rapid inflation or deflation.

Nothing else will do. Flat taxes, VATs, and sales taxes will all fall heaviest on the working and middle classes while still giving the rich and the corporate their free ride on our backs.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 06:26 PM
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10. Agreed EXCEPT...
Tie the very progressive tax rates to multiples of the MINIMUM WAGE. That will make even the right wing Repugs want to raise the minimum wage--by a lot!

No one on DU should support any other alternative offered. The flat tax is the most right wing proposal of all time.
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