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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:09 PM
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Randi talking about Capitolhillblue.com now- 3:09PM EST
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 03:24 PM by npincus
reading it (Secret Service saw Cheney Drunk)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:11 PM
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1. Ugh Randi it's not a credible source
come on get with it there is plenty else to talk about.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:13 PM
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3. I completely agree.....
CHB is a piece of crap. Reading it makes us look like fools......
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:15 PM
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6. Ed Schulz is talking about the ports
and what the port deal is really about-we've gone from fighting terrorists to doing deals with them. Good synopsis of the whole thing.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:18 PM
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9. I do like that point
I'll have to remember that point. That's actually pretty good.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:27 PM
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19. Geroge Dubai Bush
I saw that earlier today. I like that.

Ehhh CHB is not credible. The "Bush called the Constitution just a piece of paper" as well as other stories don't hold up.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:17 PM
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8. Malloy has used them before too
I remember once on his show he used them and said he trusted them. :shrug:
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disgruntled_goat Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:13 PM
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2. good ol CHB
truthiness, and yet I've never heard of one of Thompson's stories being factually refuted...

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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:14 PM
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4. Has there ever been any proof of any outrageous stmt. from CHB?
Randi, you are loosing me as a listener.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:18 PM
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10. You mean like...
"Despite what the naysayers claim, we get it first and get it right. We reported on Bush's temper tantrums a full year before it appeared in Newsweek. We revealed Bush's executive order allowing the National Security Agency to spy on Americans on June 7, 2004 -- 18 months before the New York Times printed the story. Last week we revealed President Bush ordered Vice President Cheney to go public about his hunting "accident." Time got around to it a few days later. I have no doubt that more information about Cheney's drinking will surface down the line and confirm what we reported Wednesday."

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8187.shtml
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:31 PM
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20. They didn't say tantrums
There's plenty of evidence for his temper tantrums. What they said was that people around him feared for his sanity. I've seen no confirmation of that.

I didn't read the other pieces listed here, so I can't comment on them.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:54 PM
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21. Yes, they DID say "tantrums"... (edit.. added three more entries)
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 03:58 PM by Rosco T.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7606.shtml

Bush's Increasing Mental Lapses and Temper Tantrums Worry White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
Nov 2, 2005, 05:26

(snip)

Bush, whose obscenity-laced temper tantrums increase with each new setback and scandal, abruptly ended one Camp David meeting by telling everyone in the room to “go fuck yourselves” before he stalked out of the room.

--

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7509.shtml

Government by Temper Tantrum
By DOUG THOMPSON
Oct 11, 2005, 06:53

President George W. Bush’s temper tantrums are on the rise with White House insiders reporting increasing tongue-lashing of staffers, obscenity-filled outbursts and a leader driven to the edge by what he sees as party disloyalty and a country that no longer trusts him.

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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7445.shtml

Bush's Depression: Been There, Reported That
By DOUG THOMPSON
Sep 28, 2005, 06:38

Depressed and demoralized White House staffers say working at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is “life in a hellhole” as they try to deal with a sullen, moody President whose temper tantrums drive staffers crying from the room and bring the business of running the country to a halt.

--
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
Jun 4, 2004, 02:17

President George W. Bush’s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides privately express growing concern over their leader’s state of mind.

In meetings with top aides and administration officials, the President goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as “enemies of the state.”
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:10 PM
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22. I was imprecise
You're right, they did say tantrums. But they said a lot more, and that lot more has never been confirmed. IMHO, they have a real talent for taking what's only reasonable to believe and amplifying it to extremes that are so extreme that they demand further proof. Then, that further proof is never forthcoming except, "I spoke to my sources all weekend."

I'd understand and accept that they can't reveal their sources if I read the same allegations in even one more source. But the confirmations never come. I'm not limiting those sources to the big media outlets. TPM, Rawstory, Truthout, etc. never confirm CHB stories.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:00 PM
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25. "and that lot more has never been confirmed"
and how much of it has been proven WRONG?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 03:13 PM
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26. When you make a sensational claim...
...the burden is on you to prove it. Besides, it's almost impossible to prove a negative.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:15 PM
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5. she's talking about how she tried to second-source it.
.......poor doug thompson..... :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

if you don't have the sources DON'T PUBLISH IT. Asshat.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:25 PM
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17. Nice one, Randi. Good luck with that.
This is the reason why no one else backs up Thompson's reporting. It can't be verified independently.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:16 PM
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7. I bet the RW echo chamber goes with single-source stories all the time
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:19 PM
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11. WRONG - They go with no source at all, they make up the shit as they go.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:24 PM
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15. I stand corrected 8^)
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:20 PM
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12. OK- she just read this- Doug Thompson's response to brouhaha over Wed :
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 03:21 PM by npincus
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8187.shtml

article. Thompson said he had 3 sources for his story about Cheney being drunk. To each his/her own- I am inclined to believe he got the story form insiders and it's true.

Whenever we get a story ahead of other news outlets the naysayers crank up to full crescendo and accuse us a variety of transgressions - usually revolving around the claim that we "made the whole thing up."

A lot of that came over the electronic transom and dominated the partisan bulletin boards Wednesday with our report that secret service agents said Vice President Dick Cheney was drunk when he gunned down friend and lawyer Harry Whittington in a hunting "accident" last week.

It wasn't a story we went looking for. A friend who works in the Bush administration tipped us on the report late last week and I started making phone calls. By late Tuesday, I had all I needed to go with the story: three sources that said a Secret Service Agent filed a report claiming Cheney had consumed several drinks and "appeared inebriated" while hunting on the Armstrong Ranch on February 11.

In light of other events that we and others had already documented on that day, the report made sense: A day-and-a-half delay in reporting the shooting to the press; the refusal by owners of the Armstrong ranch to allow the Kenedy County chief deputy on the property on the day the "accident" occurred and the strange decision by the county sheriff to not interview witnesses until the next day.


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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:22 PM
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13. another quote from that... before it gets buried..
"Despite what the naysayers claim, we get it first and get it right. We reported on Bush's temper tantrums a full year before it appeared in Newsweek. We revealed Bush's executive order allowing the National Security Agency to spy on Americans on June 7, 2004 -- 18 months before the New York Times printed the story. Last week we revealed President Bush ordered Vice President Cheney to go public about his hunting "accident." Time got around to it a few days later. I have no doubt that more information about Cheney's drinking will surface down the line and confirm what we reported Wednesday."
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:24 PM
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16. yeah- I always get shit for posting from that site
but I'll keep going there because i think he does know people on the inside, some disgruntled, and publishes what would otherwise not see the light of day... or at least not for a long time, and couched in much softer language.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:12 PM
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23. You *think* so, eh?
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 07:12 PM by Blue-Jay
On what proof do you base that assertation? Because you hope it's true?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:14 PM
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24. More truth from the impeccable CHB
Check out some of CHB's other work.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Feb1999/022599/clintonwo...

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view...

Here's Doug himself on how a BJ by Bill has ruined America's youth!

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_4...

Doug on Gary Condit

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/rant.asp?ID=2148

This one's my fav, forget about sourcing being anonymous, the reporter is in the is case!

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/June1999/061099/clintonw...

They certainly could be correct about Cheney being drunk and it being entered into logs by SS. But its also possible they are simply reporting a belivible rumor.

Something tells me Randi is going to get a call froma freep, get her to agree that CHB is never wrong and then spring this Clinton rape shit on her.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:23 PM
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14. It's Capitolhillblue.com
Check it out...

It wasn't a story we went looking for. A friend who works in the Bush administration tipped us on the report late last week and I started making phone calls. By late Tuesday, I had all I needed to go with the story: three sources that said a Secret Service Agent filed a report claiming Cheney had consumed several drinks and "appeared inebriated" while hunting on the Armstrong Ranch on February 11.

In light of other events that we and others had already documented on that day, the report made sense: A day-and-a-half delay in reporting the shooting to the press; the refusal by owners of the Armstrong ranch to allow the Kenedy County chief deputy on the property on the day the "accident" occurred and the strange decision by the county sheriff to not interview witnesses until the next day.

Running with the story brought the usual chorus of boo-birds, the armchair commandos who dominate the partisan bulletin boards, claiming that I sit up here in my mountaintop home and just make these things up.

In reality, I could be doing just that. But why should I? The bizarre antics of the Bush administration provide far more interesting fodder for stories than anything my imagination could possibly conjure up.

Despite what the naysayers claim, we get it first and get it right. We reported on Bush's temper tantrums a full year before it appeared in Newsweek. We revealed Bush's executive order allowing the National Security Agency to spy on Americans on June 7, 2004 -- 18 months before the New York Times printed the story. Last week we revealed President Bush ordered Vice President Cheney to go public about his hunting "accident." Time got around to it a few days later. I have no doubt that more information about Cheney's drinking will surface down the line and confirm what we reported Wednesday.


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8187.shtml

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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 03:26 PM
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18. Like I've said
CHB isn't always right, but that doesn't mean it is always wrong. I think they are right this time.
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