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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:17 PM
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Katrina Lessons Learned - Learned Nothing from 9-11
Okay - not much, and very little was implemented.

1. Command, Control, Unity of Command, etc.


    As the youngsters say -- "BORING". Read here:
    a.
    b.

    This is part of mandated training for NGO responders (Red Cross, Salvation Army) and for the National Guard.

    MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY IMPLEMENTING IT :shrug:


2. Telecommunications


    Government Craziness # 1 - You can not have Ham, Citizens Band, Family Radio, and General Mobile Radio in the same transmitter rig.

    Government Craziness #2 - An emergency responder can not have both the Ham national emergency frequency (145.520 mhz) and the two meter emergency bands on the same transmission rig.


3. Role of Military


    Bush, Cheney, and Chertoff all have some kind of a "psycho-sexual thing" about Posse Comitatus and the military.


    We have two "Natural Disaster Military Organizations"

      a. The National Guard - it is the Governor's Army, and has the expertise for major disasters - plus the Corps of Engineers, logistics, field hospital capability -- when it isn't being destroyed by aggressive wars of choice.

      b. This is the non-Federally subsidized analog of the federally subsidized National Guard. Shadow organization of the National Guard - except that the President can not call them in to the Federal Service. In some states - non-existent. In other states a "chowder and marching society" and ceremonial honor guard. In still other states the medical, telecommunications, public affairs "old farts" used during disasters. I am familiar with the California and NY "State Defense Forces" - and they do a good job.


    Natural Disaster Recovery has always been a "career disenhancer" in the Regular Military --- and a "Career Enhancer" in the National Guard and the State Defense Forces --- and nothing will change that sociology.

    As a draft motivated volunteer in the Coast Guard - and a Red Cross and Ham Radio volunteer -- I see a "Posse Comitatus" power grab.

    Call me a cynic.






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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:21 PM
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1. The report will work
Its got a slick cover and "conservatives" can say that by god bush is doing something about the problem. Anyone can write plans till the cows come home but when you appoint unqualified syncophant political hacks to exercise those plans you will continue to have failure. Continued failure, the hallmark of the bush administration and strongly supported by his base.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:23 PM
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2. I am cynical
I think it's just going to mean more FEMA paperwork for the NGO responders (Red Cross, St Vincent de Paul, Salvation Army, Southern Baptists, Ham Radio) but slower more screwed up response.
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