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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:01 PM
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Whittington on CNN now n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:02 PM
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1. Is there a glorious portrait of Bush over his right shoulder?
Doing a TV blackout since it's Friday.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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6. He's deeply sorry
for Cheney. Ah well -the wagons circle.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:16 PM
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36. jeez.did he thank cheney for shooting him?
I'm sure I would be pissed as hell at that asshole...and I certainly wouldn't have worried about what cheney was going through.....its his body that was shot...anad cheneys ego that was bruised.........what a guy..to totally forgive cheney
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:25 PM
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47. Cube rat here, is he suggesting Cheney for the Medal Of Freedom? n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:06 PM
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22. No but there was a split screen with
the Cheney's leaving the aircraft.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:13 PM
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29. Lynne is with him??
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:16 PM
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37. Oh, to be a fly on the wall near Darth and the Mrs.
Way high up the wall, though. Just to be safe.

:rofl:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:02 PM
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2. how does he look?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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5. He looks good. clears his throat a lot.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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7. Awful. The poor guy.
Half his face is yellow/black/blue.

But at least he's alive.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:05 PM
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17. Which half?

Just out of interest? :-)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:06 PM
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21. Right half. n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:06 PM
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20. He lookks good. Much better than I expected!
You could see pretty heavy bruseing on his neck on the RT side which works up to his jaw, and a very few facial marks from BB's. I looked very close at my TV and I think I only saw 3.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:02 PM
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3. Accidents do happen and that is what happened last weekend.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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8. Of course. But was the Sheriff sent away because Cheney would
be shown to be drunk?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:26 PM
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48. So Cheney says. Do you remember what Cheney has said about Iraq?
About those WMD?

About 9-11?

About Katrina?

About illegal spying?

Now he is being honest with Americans?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:02 PM
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4. he's luck to be alive
and he's worried about cheney.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:23 PM
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45. Guess he didn't get that contract or special legislation
he wants yet from Cheney.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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9. Did I hear him say that this is what happened last Friday?
Maybe is was just a slip of the tongue, but the gentleman behind him and to the left sure shot his eyes over to someone.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:05 PM
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15. he did say Friday but I had thought I misheard. oops
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:03 PM
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63. I went over to CNN website and watched the video twice.
He said Friday. I don't know if that is something significant or if he just got confused, but it does raise more questions.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:06 PM
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19. He did say last Friday.
Reading from a statement.
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:08 PM
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24. Definitely said Friday n/t
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:14 PM
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31. Faux News will change that to Sat
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:16 PM
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35. You can bet on that n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:12 PM
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26. Maybe he went off message on purpose
Maybe he made an obvious mistake to send a message. Or maybe being blasted by a shotgun in the head just affects the brain.
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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10. Who's the guy behind Whittington? One of Cheney's minders?
Did they vet the statement? He's seems a little hoarse...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:04 PM
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14. very hoarse
and they allowed no questions.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:03 PM
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11. "Pockmark Harry"?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:04 PM
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12. took no questions. joked about his age.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:04 PM
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13. He's got on more make-up than Tammy Faye Baker
a real Hollywood job.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:05 PM
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16. which side was he shot on?
?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:05 PM
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18. His right side. n/t
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:19 PM
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41. That's interesting - the right side?
Cheney said the right side, but the police drawing of the injuries showed it to be on the left side. Someone doesn't know his right from his left, either the police or the person reporting to the police.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:21 PM
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42. Shoddy police report, it looks like
It makes you think they weren't really that concerned.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:31 PM
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49. Or it makes you glad
they weren't investigating a true crime rather than a hunting accident.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:41 PM
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57. Well, a proper investigation is how you tell one from the other
Police should never make assumptions about accidents.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:23 PM
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44. Yet Darth claimed that he had swung in a counterclockwise motion
And shot Harry by accident. Which made more sense if it was the left side because that is the first side the gun would reach with a counterclockwise spin, yet now it's the right side that was shot. Was Harry facing Dickie or did Dickie pass over Harry's left side and then finally shoot the right? :shrug:
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:33 PM
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51. Pretty sure he must of been facing him
From the reports given, H.W. was coming up behind Cheney, therefore he must have been facing him unless, of course, he was walking backwards.:+
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:47 PM
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59. that doesn't seem to make sense
If Cheney turned to shoot a bird and if Whittington was behind Cheney, is Dick's reflexes that good for him to turn and fire before this bird gets more than 6-7 foot off the ground? If they are, hell I want him to collect that $25 million that's on Osama's head,.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:32 PM
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50. THE POLICE NEVER GOT A LOOK AT HIM!
The report had the wrong side. An officer would not make a mistake like that... someone TOLD HIM where the injury was.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:12 PM
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66. That's a pretty big point.
The official report clearly marked the wrong side of Whittington's body as having taken the shot. That seems like a pretty big deal. Proves that no investigation was done. They filed a report based on hearsay? Can you do that?
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:08 PM
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23. So much for the "He's already dead" conspiracy theorists.
Some conspiracy theorists here were insisting that Whittintion was already dead and Cheney was keeping it secret for some nefarious reason.

Do you think any of them will now post and admit the tinfoil was on too tight?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:10 PM
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25. did you actually take them seriously?
get a grip
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:13 PM
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28. Actually, it wasn't a bad theory....
With so much secrecy in the White House and so many lies told, you'd have to be devoid of imagination if you didn't have one or two conspiracy theories.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:16 PM
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38. I didn't take them seriously. But I love to dis conspiracy theorists. NT
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:21 PM
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43. well I see you've adopted the republican talking points
I'm a coincidence theorist myself. Gee, what a coincidence that Dick shot James Baker's brother in law on a lobbyist's ranch in a county where the sheriff doesn't investigate shootings until days later.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:25 PM
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46. And what a coincidence that James Bakers bro-in-law was shot on right side
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 01:25 PM by txindy
When Dick claims he spun in a counterclockwise motion. The first side he would've come across on anyone approaching him from the rear would be the left side. Did he keep spinning across Harry's body to hit the right side?

Truly a coincidence, that.
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:36 PM
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54. I'm not following you
Wouldn't it depend upon whether the person was behind me to the left side or the right side or directly behind me?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:39 PM
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56. No, why would that matter?
If I'm turning counterclockwise and you're behind me and walking towards me (or even standing still), it will always be your left side that my counterclockwise spin will encounter first. I'd have to keep that turn going to get to your right side, all the way across your body. The only way it would make a difference is if you weren't facing me. Or if I'm lying.
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:45 PM
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58. Think about that again
I just "re-enacted" it with my family. If I spin counterclockwise, to my left, and the person is coming up behind me on my left side, I will encounter their right side first. If the person is behind me to the right, and I spin counterclockwise, I will encounter their left side first.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:50 PM
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60. I see what you're saying, now. Harry was supposedly directly behind.
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 01:50 PM by txindy
Not off to either side. Right behind him. Peripheral vision wouldn't have helped, according to Dick's description. Harry was behind him, not just further back alongside of him.

Tough to get images across in a message, isn't it?! Sorry for the confusion. :hi:
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:53 PM
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61. It can be frustrating
I see what you're saying now. His injuries don't make sense then. Left side would be encountered first.:hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:10 PM
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64. The bottom line is that
Harry was hit on both sides of his neck. Clearly the voice box took a hit which explains the raspy voice. The video shows the marks clearly.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185238,00.html
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:20 PM
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68. I'm looking at the pic here and the right side took a lot of damage.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x453691



Darth had to move his gun across Harry's body to hit that side. That should've given him plenty of time to realize he was not targetting a six inch bird.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:23 PM
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70. Yep
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 02:24 PM by malaise
but look at the voicebox and just to your right of the voice box - there is a huge mark there. It's clearer on the video. Harry was well and truly shot up.

sp
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:25 PM
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71. Oh, agreed. I'm just slapping around Darth's nonsensical alibi a bit.
He had plenty of time to pull back. As you said, Harry was well and truly shot up. He's lucky to be alive.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:36 PM
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55. OK we clearly saw injuries on our left
his right but would someone who knows please tell me if the camera doesn't reverse sides?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:14 PM
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30. It was on too tight - a simple drunk cover-up and a lie about distance
I admit it!

:-)

:toast:

but what about the affair and the police seeing a shooting scene by appointment.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:15 PM
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34. I thought he might be dead but was hardly 'insisting'
I saw speculation but not insisting.

Bald faced, lying media leads to all kinds of speculation.


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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:19 PM
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40. I know a repub locally who insisted poor Harry was already dead.
He'll be surprised! He thought Darth and pals were spreading out the news about his complications to soften the blow for the final revelation. Luckily for ol' Harry, it didn't turn out that way.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:17 PM
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39. yeah, like we believe that was really him
:tinfoilhat:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:55 PM
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62. Can We Be Sure It's Really Him?
with all that makeup?
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:11 PM
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72. Come on that was a Wittington double...LOL! nt
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:13 PM
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27. He's obviously an Anthropomorphic Hybrid Robot
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 01:13 PM by meisje
:hide:
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:15 PM
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32. looks like a man
covering up a story, like he's done before.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:15 PM
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33. so much for his voice being too "raspy" to let them tape
his statement yesterday, huh?
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:34 PM
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52. now he knows how the quail feel
sorry, but I don't have much sympathy for the guy.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:34 PM
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53. Harry & family "send their love" to Dick & family.
Kind of flowery, for "acquaintances".
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:12 PM
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65. so he's gotta live the rest of his life with
that "pellet" in his heart? that should be fun for him..........
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:15 PM
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67. but didn't some Dr. Frists on DU say he was dead, or dying?
When Frist did his long distance diagnosis of Schiavo we rightly called him an idiot for doing so. I guess its too much to ask that some DUers, based on nothing more than what they read in the paper or on some blogsite, offer up their own diagnoses as was the case with those who were certain Whittington was dead or dying, that he was suffering from a terminal heart condition, that he was so pockmarked with pellets that he would be unrecognizable.

Looking like fools doesn't help us when there are serious questions surrounding this incident.

onenote
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:21 PM
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69. i'm stepping up as one of those "fools"
but i'm cutting myself and other fools like me some slack because history has proven the cabal is not to be trusted, and their secrecy only makes speculation that much harder to not do. he's still living with a "pellet" in his heart so i'd say he's not now and never will be out of the woods from this "accident." i am glad, however, he is doing as well as he is now. very glad.
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:11 PM
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73. Obviously the guy is senile and
this is proof. Actually, he wandered into the line of fire, while searching for the Easter Bunny.

They'll start hinting and if necessary, get documented proof that Whittington's senility was a fault and it wasn't mentioned earlier, cause Sweet Dick was trying to be kind.

Of course, from my point of view, senility would be the kindest thing you could accuse anyone who is hunting buds with the Dick, of being.



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