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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:12 AM
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Diagram in Cheney's accident report wrong
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/ny-usdiag0217,0,3998995.story?coll=sfla-newsnation-front

In the only publicly available, official report on last weekend's accidental shooting by Vice President Dick Cheney, a diagram of a body shows where Austin lawyer Harry Whittington was hit by pellets fired from Cheney's Italian-made shotgun.

That diagram has been picked up and faithfully replicated by television and newspapers across the country, including the New York Times this week and by Newsday Thursday.

The only problem is that the diagram is wrong, by all accounts. It shows Whittington hit on the left side of his face, neck and chest when Cheney, the Kenedy County Sheriff's office and the report itself say the wounds were on the right side.

Texas Game Warden James Duke filled out the report on Monday, based on information from the sheriff's office, and he made a mistake, said Lydia Saldana, spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife. "That's a human error," Saldana said. "He should have colored the other side. It was the right side of the face and neck."

Sorry if this has already been posted. Interesting.

Diagram here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html

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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:15 AM
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1. Italian-made shotgun - Manlicher-Carcano?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:16 AM
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2. I thought that little tid-bit was interesting, too.
I had not heard that one before.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:22 AM
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3. Didn't Oswald use a Mannlicher rifle?
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 09:24 AM by Burried News
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:29 AM
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4. Could have been Benelli or Beretta - each have several very nice guns.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:40 AM
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8. Make, Model, Serial Number:
Make: Perazzi
Model: Brescia
Serial #: 115288

Info from Texas Parks and Wildlife Hunting Accident and Hunting Report Form
found here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.htm...

Now, amateur detectives: WHO BOUGHT THAT GUN AND GAVE IT TO CHENEY?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:42 AM
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9. 'Perazzi'
Cheney's shotgun, according to the report, was a 28-gauge Perazzi, considered a fine Italian weapon, made in Brescia.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/02/14/news/cheney.php
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:57 AM
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12. "Dammit, Harry, now you got blood all over my
Bruno Maglias . . ."
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:29 AM
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5. AJ Hidell's Italian rifle only cost $18.95.......
plus $2.00 shipping
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:32 AM
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6. That dispersal pattern seems awfully tight for 30 yards
But what I know about ballistics could be engraved on a grain of rice, and have room left over.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:57 AM
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11. Did you read Brainshrub's forensic algebra post?
I featured it in today's DU Blog Box column (on the homepage).

There's no way Cheney fired from 30 yards. More like 10.
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gulfbreeze Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:38 AM
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7. I picked up on that too. Also
didn't the woman (witness) say Harry came up on the right side of Cheney and didn't Cheney say he moved his gun in a counterclockwise motion to shoot? I can't make this scenerio work.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:53 AM
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10. I can't quite follow --
I need Countdown puppet theatre to reinact it for me.

If man was shot on right side and shooter was turning counterclockwise, then scope passed over man before trigger was squeezed.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:58 AM
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14. I think cheney said he turned to his right as well....
in the interview with brit 'ilovecheney' hume.
This doesn't make any sense.
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:05 AM
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13. Just consider what
It could be if P&VP were big game hunting and shot at the same time at the same animal with "really big" guns!
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