OK IT'S OFFICIAL: CHENEY LIED TO A POLICE OFFICER!

[berni_mccoy]

Here we have that Cheney told Officer Gilberto San Miguel that Whittington was 30 YARDS away: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0216061cheney1.html

And Here we have that it is IMPOSSIBLE for Whittington to have sustained that kind of damage at 30 yards: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x438089

[acmavm]

1. He lied? Geez, I'm shocked.

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[f-bush]

2. Obstruction of Justice Anyone?

[H2O Man]

4. Not in this instance.

In fact, it doesn't translate to lying. Giving an estimate of the distance is not anything that police look at as an objective or scientific measure. It's an estimate.

30 feet would be about right for the pattern of the shot, and for it to have penetrated the clothing and done internal damage.

[f-bush]

16. My obstruction of justice question was for the delay in having Cheney

speaking to the sheriff!

[H2O Man]

17. The sheriff

agreed to the meeting the following day. That error -- and it obviously is an error -- belongs to the sheriff. If the department had looked for Cheney, and he and others did things to hide him, it would be an offense. As it is, the sheriff's behavior is offensive.

[Carni]

29. This bothers me/ why didn't they just blame someone else inst. of Cheney?

Something just popped into my head earlier --

OK obviously there's something funny going on (cover up of some sort)

I believe they intended to sweep the whole thing under the rug and the public would never even get wind of this so why did she REALLY call that local paper?
I don't buy that Armstrong was told to go through the local media to report the *accident* by Cheney.

Further...If everyone in that hunting party was going along with the flow and there were no outsiders present who would squeal later wouldn't the obvious thing have been to say someone else shot Harry sparing Cheney all together?

I am not sure why this bothers me and comes to mind.

Could it be that Armstrong may have gotten cold feet and called the paper on her own fearing some type of blame for this incident?

Is my logic here flawed?

I know we have been told she was coached by M.Matalin but for someone that was coached she certainly made some stupid remarks that added even more grounds for speculation---such as the beer in the cooler etc.

Just some things I have been kicking around in my head.

[Xenotime]

18. yes. Which is reason for arrest and trial

[LiberalEsto]

3. Obstruction of Justice!

Obstruction of justice!
Just like they nailed Clinton about Monicagate. But worse, because someone got badly injured.

[Tesha]

23. Actually, here in New Hampshire we have "Unsworn falsification"

Actually, here in New Hampshire we have an interesting
crime called "Unsworn falsification". I'm not sure of the
exact parameters of the crime, but I think if you knowingly
tell the cops lies in the interest of concealing a possible
crime, they're likely to charge you with this (as well as
whatever else they finally dig up).

I wonder if Texas has a similar crime?

Tesha

[HereSince1628]

5. You don't expect a CLOSED investigation to be reopened over algebra?

It's closed they were being discreet before.

Now the reports will disappear into Secret Service custodu and become part of those secret presidential archives that will remain sealed for 200 years.

You know they COULD reveal how an Al Qaeda lawyer posing as a republican contributer could get within gunshot of a Vice-presidential hunting party.

[sinkingfeeling]

6. But he wasn't under oath.

[Tesha]

24. See my post above re: "Unsworn falsification" (NT)

[f-bush]

30. In Washingtons State as in many other states...

you can be arrested for giving a false statement under oath or not under oath to any law enforcement or regulatory agency!

[lpbk2713]

7. The investigating officer should have assumed as much.

Once he saw all those goppers' lips move.

[rpgamerd00d]

8. And also this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x433708

[BrotherBuzz]

9. Cheney didn't necessarily lie, he's just unqualified to judge length...

heck, even with Viagra, he thinks his slong is twelve inches long. :shrug:

[berni_mccoy]

10. Then he HAS NO BUSINESS HUNTING!

Otherwise, it's RECKLESS!

[BrotherBuzz]

11. What he was doing ain't called HUNTING in my world

Canned hunt? :rofl:

[texpatriot2004]

12. Isn't that aka "Obstruction of Justice" nm

[Burning Water]

13. Think he'll go to

jail, or even pay a political price? 'Cause I think they've got this story locked down, and it will disappear in a week.

[janx]

25. The story will never disappear.

The vice president shot a guy. Nothing will happen to Cheney, of course, but the story will go down in history.

[Burning Water]

26. True, but

as a political issue it will soon die. I fail to see it gaining any traction. Although, if we can show he was drunk, it might then.

[FSogol]

14. He's lied to tens of thousands of police officers, and firemen and

school teachers and doctors and all other types of citizens,

[pitohui]

15. i don't consider that lying

if he told the officer he wasn't drinking and then later admitted on fox news that he may have actually started in on the beer as early as lunch...that is a lie

however being able to estimate distance accurately and tell by eye exactly how many yards away something is -- that is a skill many claim to have but damn few if any actually do have -- i don't consider that a lie but a common misapprehension about perception shared by almost everyone

all birders know that size and distance deceives, i have to assume that most hunters have observed this basic truth as well

the human eye and ability to perceive distance is not as good as we think it is

i'm not interested in second-guessing someone else's second guess as to how far away he was standing when he accidentally shot someone

i'm interested in his blood alcohol level at the time of the shooting

focus, grasshopper

[UTUSN]

19. He stays under the radar because he LIES, that's what he DOES K&R

[SaveAmerica]

20. Maybe you can add the part of the transcript from his interview

with Hume where he said he was 30 feet away.

[slaveplanet]

21. another test

http://infowars.com/articles/us/cheney_shooting_scientific_proof.htm

[mirandapriestly]

22. Ugh, NPR has Alan Simpson on now, saying how Cheney

"gave up on" the media because they asked stupid questions. He's talking about how he never calls them (yeah, sure) and downgrading people who don't like Cheney because "he kills birds", before they had some guy on saying he couldn't believe people were making a big deal out of this shooting thing when Cheney is such a "well qualified" man bla bla. NPR has become so scary, but I can't get AAR reception in my house (only car)

[happydreams]

27. Oh, the irony. After all of this

if Cheney goes down for lying to a cop about drinking..... :rofl:

[happydreams]

28. Hope the cop read Cheney his rights.

:eyes: