Wingers need to get this through their thick little pinheads

[BurtWorm]

George Bush and Little Big Dick Cheney are not the United States of America. The Republican Party is not the United States of America. The extreme right wing where these pieces of shit dwell is not the United States of America. So "disloyalty" to any of these pieces of shit is not disloyalty to the United States of America. Get that through your thick little pinheads, wingers!

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=43

Gore’s ‘Supreme Disloyalty’ in Saudi Arabia
Categories: Al Gore
As House Democrats David Bonior and Jim McDermott may recall from their trip to Baghdad on the eve of the Iraq war, nothing sets conservative opinionmongers on edge like a speech made by a Democrat on foreign soil. Al Gore traveled to Saudi Arabia last week, and in a speech there on Sunday he criticized “abuses” committed by the U.S. government against Arabs after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. A burst of flabbergasted conservative blogging followed the Associated Press dispatch about the speech, with the most clever remark coming from Mark Steyn, who called the former vice president “Sheikh al-Gore.” The editorial page of Investor’s Business Daily accused Gore of “supreme disloyalty to his country.”

TigerHawk does the best job of explaining why speeches like this get some people so worked up:

Gore’s outrage at the American treatment of Arab and Muslim captives may be genuine, and it may even be worthy of expression in the United States, where we aspire to do better than press accounts suggest we have done. But whatever nasty things we have done in exceptional cases in time of war, they pale in comparison to the standard operating procedure in Saudi Arabia. So this is what Gore has done: he has traveled to Jiddah to explain to the elites of an ugly and tyrannical regime that the big problem in the world isn’t the oppression of Arabs by Arabs throughout the Middle East and North Africa, but the mistreatment of a few hundred Arabs in the United States. This is like visiting Moscow in 1970 and denouncing the United States in front of a bunch of Communist Party deputies for the killings at Kent State. …

There is simply no defense for what Gore has done here, for he is deliberately undermining the United States during a time of war, in a part of the world crucial to our success in that war, in front of an audience that does not vote in American elections. Gore’s speech is both destructive and disloyal, not because of its content — which is as silly as it is subversive — but because of its location and its intended audience.

Joe Gandelman of The Moderate Voice says the speech should serve as a warning for those Democrats who want to see Gore nominated once more for the presidency in 2008: “Gore undermined his own message by the ironic setting from which to deliver it — raising questions about whether the Democrats would be wise to again entrust their nomination to someone with such dubious political judgment.”

[librechik]

1. The Poorman has an excellent essay in response to this baloney

read it and laugh!

http://www.thepoorman.net/2006/02/15/response-to-tigerhawk/

snip

"The loyalty “owed” a President, or any government official, or any policy of the same, by a private citizen, is this much loyalty: zero. Let me say that again: the loyalty I, or you, or anyone “owes” to someone in the government, or to some course of action they favor, is none whatsoever. To think otherwise, Teddy Roosevelt might comment, is “unpatriotic and servile”. Now, this is not to say you can’t give your loyalty to the President or his policies - it’s a free country, and you can do any non-treasonous thing you want with your loyalty - but that’s your decision, and nobody has to live with it but you (and all the people who suffer from the consequences of your stupid choice of loyalties, of course.) Personally, I think the President is a horrible fucking stupid cunt and his policies are for shit. Your results may vary. But if someone tells me that I “owe” it to the President or his crap policy to act like I don’t think that, well, that person can get in the big long line with WPE and the rest of folks who really desperately need to go fuck themselves.

But Democracy gets even worse. The President and the President’s policies owe me loyalty. The President and his policies are supposed to be working for the good of the country and her people. That’s how the loyalty flows. The President is required to act for my (ok, “our”) benefit; if he does not, the betrayal is his, and the sorts of things which you’d like to call “disloyalty” become duty. Does Gore’s speaking out against torture “undermine” the country? That’s a tricky position to hold if you oppose torture. Does it “undermine” the policy? I wish. No, it does this: it reminds the world that however fucked up our government is, it isn’t us, it doesn’t speak for us, and it can never, ever make us quiet down. And I do say God Bless America..."

[BurtWorm]

3. It's hard not to become enraged over their idiocy.

Especially when I don't recall them exhibiting loyalty to Bill Clinton when he was president (legitimately, I hasten to add!).

[stepnw1f]

2. Thank You

fuckin pin heads are destroying their own country out of spite and sheer prejudice towards liberalism... stupid!

[BurtWorm]

4. kick