A Smoking Gun: Armstrong Was NOT An Eyewitness

[nashuaadvocate]

Read this story:

"Sitting in the hunting car, Armstrong didn't know there was a problem until she saw Cheney's security detail running.

'The first thing that crossed my mind was (Cheney) had a heart problem,' she said."

WHAT?

How could Armstrong say she saw the whole thing and was an "eyewitness" when in fact she didn't realize anything had happened until after it happened? How could she have appreciated what had actually happened as it happened if she clearly didn't see Whittington fall--and indeed thought CHENEY was the victim?

How could the Kenedy County Sheriff's Department say "you could say it (the case) is closed" before speaking to Whittington on Monday, if Armstrong wasn't an eyewitness? What that means is that the only eyewitness they spoke to before "closing the case" was CHENEY.

Also:

"'Approaching dark but still plenty of light,' Armstrong said. 'The sun was well up over the horizon. It was probably going to be the last covey we shot because then you get into safety issues.'"

WHAT?

NY Times says shooting was at 5:50PM.

Sunset was at 6:18PM.

How in HELL was there "plenty of light"?

[xultar]

1. No body believed her ass in the first place...well other than the fact

that there was a shooting.

[txindy]

4. She does tell a tall tale, doesn't she? Although she did mention beers.

As in, beers were consumed before the hunt. But that remark has mysteriously and suddenly disappeared from M$NBC's article. How odd. :eyes:

[threadkillaz]

12. david GrEgory needs to ask his bosses some tough q's.

Like why "beer" was removed.

[rodeodance]

13. how odd indeed. But Lawrence O-donell has asked Was Dick Drunk

[Hissyspit]

2. Cover-up! This just gets stinkier and stinkier. The cover-up is always

worse than the initial criime/corruption.

[Vanje]

7. This cover-up is shoddy, sloppy, contradictory, hastily thrown together.

The product of panic.

[mom cat]

33. I just love cover ups!

:popcorn:

[fooj]

3. They are all liars. ALL OF THEM.

Peace.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. Absolutely right., Not one of them is telling the truth.

[MadMaddie]

That's why they delayed getting the story out..

They had to make sure everyones story was in synch!!

[rodeodance]

5. a contratiction that the press should shout out loud about.

[InsultComicDog]

29. How about pointing out that she just happens to be a lobbyist?

Hmmmmm?

[rocktivity]

6. WHAT? You mean that I slaved and toiled over this thread

for nothing?

:eyes:
rocknation

[xultar]

8. apparently.

:rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. Oh, my!

:rofl:



















I kicked it for ya rn.

[Harper_is_Bush]

9. good grief. n/t

[seabeyond]

10. one of the excuses was sun in the eyes. so much

of this story just contradicts

[rodeodance]

11. I think the local Sheriff has some explaning to do!

[Steve A Play]

14. NY Times says shooting was at 5:50PM????

But the report filed by the Parks and Wildlife Department claims the 'incident' occurred at 5:30 PM! :shrug:



:wtf:

[nashuaadvocate]

18. YES. Read their most recent story, due out tomorrow morn. SS says 5:50PM

[Steve A Play]

21. I want to see the hospital admittance forms

to find out how long it took to get him there. The initial reports seemed to indicate that he was admitted at 8:30 PM which would point toward them trying to take care of this themselves with Cheney's medical crew. That would really indicate an attempt to cover this up.

Steven P. :kick:

[nashuaadvocate]

23. They claim it took 20-30 minutes for an ambulance to arrive...

...and you have to remember Whittington was transferred from a smaller hospital to Corpus Christi. So we have to know when he arrived at the first hospital.

[Steve A Play]

26. Yet the Whitehouse and media claim that "crash-cart"

always has an ambulance and medical crew with him on stand-by. There must be a public record somewhere of when the Life Flight helicopter was dispatched for the transfer between hospitals.

There's also the little matter of the "NO ALCOHOL" sign on the gate to the 'ranch' and the admission of the owner that there were "1 or 2 beers" in with their lunch. I don't know anybody who only brings one or two beers on a hunting trip. A case or two maybe. :)

[Blue Belle]

32. That would be good... I'd also like to see the blood toxicology report...

But it's doubtful either of those reports will ever see the light of day again.

[ellenfl]

19. shooter's activity at time of incident: stalking. sounds right. eom

[AndyTiedye]

25. Awful Close to the HEART…

…especially for an "accident".

[nashuaadvocate]

27. Certainly it suggests Cheney was closer than 30yds. nm

[Sparkly]

15. Was she a designated driver?

:shrug:

[Nothing Without Hope]

16. Good point. Media Matters brings up OTHER INCONSISTENCIES

where contradictory versions of important aspects of the story are both uncritically reported:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200602140016
Tue, Feb 14, 2006 5:55pm EST

Media overlook unanswered questions and inconsistencies in Cheney shooting disclosure

Summary: Media reporting on the delay between when Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot one of his hunting partners and the public disclosure of that information have overlooked unanswered questions and inconsistent accounts of how the incident was revealed to the press.

The two points they concentrate on in this Feb 14 article:

• Media overlooked Armstrong's conflicting accounts of whether she coordinated with Cheney
  
• Media ignored Rove's involvement while reporting that Vice President's Office was solely responsible for delayed disclosure

[oneighty]

20. I guess now

the SS can be compelled to testify ala Pres. Clinton.

Bummer.

180

[HeeBGBz]

24. Man, this story reeks!

None of their explanations are coherent.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

28. nice job on this thread from Kos

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/15/71550/5894

[H2O Man]

30. Plenty of light.

If the shooting was at 5:50, and the sun set at 6:18, there would surely be plenty of light. The sun going down does not create sudden darkness, like turning off a light.

[nashuaadvocate]

31. ATTENTION: THERE ARE REPORTS THAT

Cheney will claim, in his interview airing at 6PM, that the reason Armstrong was allowed to break the story is because she was an EYEWITNESS.

The Dallas News has confirmed that she was NOT.

We HAVE to be ready to challenge Ms. Armstrong as an eyewitness to this event because she CLEARLY was not.

This is IMPORTANT because it means Armstrong tried to give the impression she was an eyewitness when she wasn't, that Cheney likely coached her story and so her "independent" version of events is actually CHENEY'S VERSION.

DailyKos has already picked up on this in one of its many diaries, but I want y'all to be ready, too.

S.