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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:11 PM
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Someone please 'splain to me how spy whistleblower hurt nat'l security.
Dubya keeps on saying that the person who leaked the secret spying program has hurt our security. I don't understand. Is it news to the "terrasts" that we are eavesdropping on their phone conversations? Don't our enemies expect us to spy on them? Don't we already spy on them legally? Why did this administration have to go around the law to "protect" us?

Is he defining "our enemies" as his political opponents? Is Bush more paranoid than Nixon?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:13 PM
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1. I suppose his argument would be they don't know how we are spying on them?
But obviously the real objection to the whistleblowers is that they are politically inconvenient for Bush.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:27 PM
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6. The how is important, not the why.
It should be obvious to the terrorist and anyone else with half a brain that we would spy on our enemies. A crime is committed when the spying technique is exposed. I have not read anything as to whether someone exposed any of this highly secret information.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:17 PM
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2. It Is Very, Very Easy
it is so because Dubya, our great dictator-king-emperor SAYS so.

Show a little respect, don't you know it is unpatriotic to question our president/dictator/king/emperor?

You must hate America and like the terrorists.

:eyes:
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:19 PM
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3. Yet when one of his cronies outs a clandestine CIA agent
it's not that big of a deal.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:27 PM
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4. Actually, Bush Himself Told the World He was Wiretapping
So he, himself, would be the "Whistle-Blower".
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:27 PM
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5. Anything that hurts Duhbya, even imaginary, helps his 'enemies' ...
... but remember: "If You're Not With Us, You're With The Terrorists!" This Regime does not and will not distinguish between their political opponents (anyone opposed to fascism) domestically or internationally. For this fascist regime, anyone to the left of Idi Amin is an enemy.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 12:30 PM
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7. Why are you compromising our nation's security?
Don't you know that by challenging the word of Dear Leader, son of Glorious Leader, you lend aid and comfort to America's enemies? The American people understand very well that the first job of the commander in chief during wartime is to protect the American people, and those among the American people who don't understand that aren't worthy of the beneficent protection afforded them by Dear Leader.

That about sum it up, or did I miss any of the nonsense GOP talking points?
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minyks Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:08 PM
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8. Because
the program was what is defined as a national asset. I worked several times during my 23 Air Force career in "black world" programs. Yes most anyone that thinks about it for long would figure we are spying, but on of the things you want to protect is sources and methods. What has been compromised is in my opinion my major setback for the NSA. This is serious breach and whoever leaked it should be behind bars. Just my two cents.
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:10 PM
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9. The FISA program is a national asset
Boy blunder broke the law.

Period.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:18 PM
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10. oh right: spying w/o a warrant is a real serious "method" that
has been "compromised"

gee, "the enemy" never woulda guessed, huh?
just what is this "breach" that you're SOOO concerned about?
the "breach" is that the fake "president" was CAUGHT in an illegal act (in fact, he virtually boasted about it on natl TV).

since "the enemy" never heard there was a warrant, "the enemy" figured his/her phone wasn't tapped, is that it? even though the warrant that the disgusting little megalomaniacal idiot prick needed could have been easily granted AFTER THE FACT.

yes, spying on your political enemies is a serious "compromise" and the whole stinking bunch of traitors currently OCCUPYING the WH should be drawn and quartered.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:24 PM
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12. OH BULLSHIT. What about our MAJOR ASSET, Valerie Plame?
Were you concerned about her name being leaked? She WAS a CIA agent who investigated those missing WMD. Did you care about that?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:22 PM
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11. Because his sheeple believe his tripe. He thinks terrorists are smart
enough to plan another attack on us, but they're too stupid to figure out we would have intelligence on them.:eyes: That makes sense ONLY to his ignorant sheeple masses. No THINKING American is going to buy that line of shit.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 10:14 PM
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13. I know exactly how
Let me give you a recipe...

Take one cup of 9/11
Stir in a quarter-cup of Afghanistan
A half-cup of Iraq
A few hundred thousand dead civilians
A tablespoon of tax cuts
A heaping teaspoon of incompetent Bush cronies
A few glugs of the blood of all the terrorists we've caught since 9/11 (optional, since we are out of this)
A dollop of $3/gallon gas
A pinch of human shit recovered from the Superdome hallway
And a double handful of Americans who the NSA spied on

Put it in a loaf pan lubricated with stolen crude oil. Garnish with Crawford brush. Bake at 300 degrees for about five years.

The resultant mess is a country with a government so paranoid it spies on its own people, an army reduced to ashes, and an economy so bad Bruce Springsteen is writing a song about it. Not even the Soviets got that low.

Anyone can invade that country any time they want and get anything they want. This proves it.
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