PNAC and ANTHRAX ATTACKS (Tin foil hats NOT required!)

[LunaC]

The DLC/PNAC share the same heritage dating back to “Scoop” Jackson.

Recently, officials from the CIA, Department of Defense and Department of Energy, combed through 1,200 boxes of material in Jackson’s archival papers to remove and classify 10 documents.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/02/15/100loc_jackson001.cfm

WHY? Why - after all this time - would those documents be important enough to secret away?

I goggled "Scoop" Jackson and DOE out of curiosity and this is what I dug up..….

On April 27, 1964, Battelle submitted a proposal to the Atomic Energy Commission to run the Hanford Laboratories….Thirty days after submitting the proposal, Battelle was awarded the contract and Senators Henry "Scoop" Jackson and Warren Magnuson announced the news in the Tri-City Herald the next day.

Today, the Battelle Memorial Institute runs the Chemical and Biological Defense Information Analysis Center (CBIAC).

http://www.battelle.org/solutions/fall04/SpecialReport.stm

The Battelle Memorial Institute also runs the U.S. anthrax project and manufactures the infamous trillion spores per gram Ames silica-impregnated anthrax. Officially, the work is done for "defensive" purposes in order to produce a vaccine.

In their book Germs, New York Times writers Judith Miller, Stephen Engelberg and William Broad described the key role of Battelle in both the military’s and the CIA’s Ames-strain anthrax projects: “Battelle, a military contractor in Columbus, Ohio, with sophisticated laboratories, conducted at least two sets of tests on a model of the biobomblet that measured, among other things, its dissemination characteristics and how it would perform in different atmospheric conditions.”

The CIA did not seek the White House’s blessing for its anthrax “bomb” project, called “Clear Vision,” the Times writers noted. The tests were completed in mid-2000.

Germs informs us that the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) was working on Project Jefferson to manufacture a war-grade super-strain of anthrax. “To make the genetically modified anthrax, the DIA turned to Battelle, its contractor in Columbus which had also worked on Clear Vision,” according to the book.

Battelle reportedly conducted the CIA anthrax tests at West Jefferson and the DIA’s tests at the Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah. A December 18, 2001, Battelle news release issued from their Columbus headquarters refers to “Battelle’s Dugway, Hill Air Force Base and Toole, Utah locations.”

A BBC News Night investigation on March 14 “raised the possibility that there was a secret CIA project to investigate methods of sending anthrax through the mail which went madly out of control.”

http://www.columbusalive.com/2002/20020530/053002/05300203.html

So the dots connect as follows:

Jackson --> Neocons --> Corporate Partnership --> Military --> PNAC --> Anthrax Attacks of 2001

But the original question still remains: Why were those documents removed from Jackson’s archives? What nefarious plan have the neocons had on the drawing board for decades that they want to hide NOW?

It is important to shape circumstances” - PNAC Statement of Principles

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid!

[Al-CIAda]

1. Thank you LunaC....k&r'd.

:thumbsup:

[leftstreet]

2. You need to fix your first four links

Not working

[LunaC]

3. I'm on it

Thanks for the heads up - I'll take care of it now...please be patient.

[leftstreet]

9. You're welcome

:hi:

[meganmonkey]

4. Kick

I gotta read this later...

:kick:

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I knew it. Bookmarked, KICK and recommended!

:kick:

I'd LOVE to know what those classified 10 documents say.

[atommom]

6. I'm giving it another well-deserved kick. Fascinating stuff!

[Al-CIAda]

7. an arrest would prove embarrassing to the U.S. government

..."Last year, in their book Germs, New York Times writers Judith Miller, Stephen Engelberg and William Broad described the key role of Battelle in both the military’s and the CIA’s Ames-strain anthrax projects: “Battelle, a military contractor in Columbus, Ohio, with sophisticated laboratories, conducted at least two sets of tests on a model of the biobomblet that measured, among other things, its dissemination characteristics and how it would perform in different atmospheric conditions.”

The CIA did not seek the White House’s blessing for its anthrax “bomb” project, called “Clear Vision,” the Times writers noted. The tests were completed in mid-2000.

Germs informs us that the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) was working on Project Jefferson to manufacture a war-grade super-strain of anthrax. “To make the genetically modified anthrax, the DIA turned to Battelle, its contractor in Columbus which had also worked on Clear Vision,” according to the book.

Battelle reportedly conducted the CIA anthrax tests at West Jefferson and the DIA’s tests at the Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah. A December 18, 2001, Battelle news release issued from their Columbus headquarters refers to “Battelle’s Dugway, Hill Air Force Base and Toole, Utah locations.”

A BBC News Night investigation on March 14 “raised the possibility that there was a secret CIA project to investigate methods of sending anthrax through the mail which went madly out of control.”

“The shocking assertion is that a key member of the covert operation may have removed, refined and eventually posted weapons-grade anthrax which killed five people,” according to the BBC.

While President Bush initially hinted that the anthrax unleashed in the U.S. was possibly linked to al Qaeda, Iraq or, more recently, Cuba, Barbara Rosenberg of the Federation of American Scientists claims that the FBI is dragging its feet in the investigation because an arrest would prove embarrassing to the U.S. government.

http://www.columbusalive.com/2002/20020530/053002/05300203.html

[AntiFascist]

8. This is scarey....

and it explains the similarities I found between PPI's statements shortly after 9/11 and PNAC's positions (PPI is the DLC's thinktank):

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=450004&subsecID=900020&contentID=3916

But it's also time to ratchet up the pressure on Syria, Iran, Sudan, and other regimes known to sanction terrorism. Options include withdrawal of aid and diplomatic recognition, economic embargoes, expulsion from the United Nations and other international bodies, political and military support for insurgents, and preemptive strikes to stop terrorism or weapons proliferation.

<snip>

The attack on America has created some startling opportunities to realign global politics.

<snip>

Ultimately, the challenge facing the United States and the liberal democracies is to drain the global swamp

Realize that if both parties adopt PNAC strategies (if they haven't already) then we will have strong support for a form of "friendly fascism" guiding our government.

[hedda_foil]

11. Similar? Hell, Will Marshall, the head of PPI signed PNAC letters.

Starting right after 9/11. If I remember correctly there was another PPI/DLC thinktanker in it from the start. I think his last name was Jackson.

[LunaC]

21. More about Will Marshall

Note the PNAC link to the left.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

[AntiFascist]

28. Anyone who doubts whether the Clintons may be neocons....

Called "Bill Clinton's idea mill," the Progressive Policy Institute was responsible for many of the Clinton administration's initiatives...

I know, I know...he was such a great president otherwise.

[notadmblnd]

46. I twas a sad day I realised that the Clintons were "one of them"

even sadder to realize that Kerry is too. I guess these articles explain people like Biden and Lieberman too?

[LunaC]

52. Same here

While rooting around on Google, I also discovered that Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, Abramowitz and Carlucci were part of the Balkan Action Committee which brought us Clinon's war against Yugoslavia just because the Caspian region has the world's largest untapped oil reserves. These bastards have been fucking up the world in the pursuit of oil for a long time!

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Balkan_Action_Committee

[AntiFascist]

56. This makes the distinction between left and right all the more confusing..

When it comes to "neo-conservative" or "neo-liberal" labels, the real distinction should be between hawk or dove. There are too many hawkish Democratic leaders who support the use of offensive force for the purpose of nation-building. Hawks will point at the Kosovo war as being an example where an offensive effort was successful, but the distinguishing factor is that this dispute did not have as its origin US expansionism, oil issues, or CIA involvement.

There are also those who argue that the success of the Kosovo war is all propaganda:

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=18&ItemID=5787

John Kerry's foreign policy adviser Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute, author of "Democratic Realism: the Third Way", points to the exemplary nature of the 1999 "U.S.-led intervention in Kosovo". It was "a policy consciously based on a mix of moral values and security interests with the parallel goals of halting a humanitarian tragedy and ensuring NATO's credibility as an effective force for regional stability".

The "humanitarian" rationale sounds better than the "weapons of mass destruction" or the "links to Al Qaeda" which never existed. But then, the "genocide" from which the NATO war allegedly saved the Albanians of Kosovo never existed either.

[LunaC]

58. "the Kosovo war was successful" is wholly propaganda!

Blunder in the Balkans - The Clinton Administration's Bungled War against Serbia

The Clinton administration has made one miscalculation after another in dealing with the Kosovo crisis. U.S. officials and their NATO colleagues never understood the historical and emotional importance of Kosovo to the Serbian people, believing instead that Belgrade's harsh repression of the ethnic Albanian secessionist movement in Kosovo merely reflected the will of President Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia. The administration's foreign policy team mistakenly concluded that, under a threat of air strikes, the Yugoslav government would sign a dictated peace accord (the Rambouillet agreement) to be implemented by a NATO peacekeeping force in Kosovo. Even if Milosevic initially refused to sign the Rambouillet agreement, administration leaders believed that Belgrade would relent after a brief "demonstration" bombing campaign. Those calculations proved to be disastrously wrong.

President Clinton and his advisers justified their decision to use force with two arguments: that NATO bombing was needed to prevent a Serbian military offensive in Kosovo with attendant "ethnic cleansing," and that vigorous action was essential to prevent the Kosovo conflict from spilling over into neighboring states, thereby destabilizing the southern Balkans. Administration leaders also hoped that NATO pressure would undermine Milosevic's political power and embolden the democratic opposition in Serbia. The bombing campaign has been wholly counterproductive with regard to all three objectives.

Administration officials have committed miscalculations eerily reminiscent of faulty U.S. assumptions during the Vietnam War. Those mistakes include overestimating the effectiveness of air power; underestimating the willingness of the target government and population to fight for their homeland; and demonizing the opposing political leader, thus making a negotiated settlement more difficult.

Even if Belgrade finally capitulates, the adverse effects of the administration's actions already constitute a policy fiasco. Instability in the Balkans is far worse than before the bombing. Relations with Russia are now at their worst point since the darkest days of the Cold War. And the bombing of China's embassy in Belgrade has caused a serious rift in the Sino-American relationship. NATO's bombing campaign has produced a humanitarian catastrophe in Kosovo, the rest of Serbia, and neighboring countries. Good intentions alone cannot excuse the negative consequences of U.S. Kosovo policy.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-345es.html

[timtom]

65. It really shouldn't be too confusing.

One need only look to Robert Byrd, Cynthia McKinney, Barbara Boxer, Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, John Murtha, and, yes, Jello Biafra to note the difference. (Maybe I shouldn't have included Jello in this list, but he IS, after all, a sincere purveyor of truth.)

One is either FOR patriot acts, illegal invasions of sovereign nations, unconstitutional acts and behavior, or one is AGAINST such things.

My apologies to any omissions in the above list.

[LunaC]

15. "friendly fascism"

Now ain''t THAT an oxymoron!

[AntiFascist]

22. Do a web search on....

"universal fascism"+Ledeen Ledeen is blatantly arrogant enough to refer to W as a good student who latched onto his ideas quickly.

[MelissaB]

26. This stuff makes me want to get the hell out of the US.

How can we fight this? Yeah, I'm scared and wondering what the hell an average person like me can do.

[Usrename]

29. Store dried foods.

These people scare the beejus out of me, too. They must be stopped soon. Their depravity knows no bounds.

They will not police themselves. They don't even know why they should.

[Kansas Wyatt]

34. That would explain why Democratic Reps will not bring up PNAC

For anyone who wants to know what the Hell is going on, they only need to read PNAC. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but for some reason, Democrats strangely avoid throwing it out there. Why?:shrug:

[LunaC]

37. Because…..

“Scoop” Jackson was strongly influenced by Leo Strauss and his philosophy morphed into two different directions….the neocons became today’s PNAC and his Coalition for a Democratic Majority (CDM) became today’s DLC. Both the Republican and Democratic versions share the same roots. Same platform, different parties.

[petgoat]

51. "why Democratic Reps will not bring up PNAC"

The only way I can explain it is if they believe the PNAC agenda of
global domination is necessary, and they're not willing to bring the
issue out for democratic debate.

The only way I can see that the PNAC agenda is necessary is if we really
are going to run out of oil in thirty years, and economic and social chaos
is coming.

I'm not saying I believe that, but it's the only explanation I can reach for
a very puzzling lack of opposition in the opposition. That's where logic leads.

If somebody can bring up another explanation I'd sure like to hear it.

[stevedeshazer]

10. Wow, now there's a flashback

http://www.tridec.org/filedisplay.cfm?fileid=813

Scoop Jackson was intimately connected to the Hanford Project. These folks had no problem contaminating the public with radioactive materials then, so I'm not surprised they'd be behind anthrax, too.

[Raksha]

39. Hanford killed my husband.

He lived there as a child, ate food grown in contaminated soil. His father worked at Hanford Atomic Reservation as a pipefitter and brought home radioactive dust on his clothes. My husband died of a rare blood disease (apparently brought on by exposure to plutonium) at age 49.

I've always hated the neocons, but now I have a personal reason.

[stevedeshazer]

54. Ouch. That's personal.

I know (distantly) two people who died of cancers who live in that area. It's a story that's slowly being forgotten. All that stuff is seeping into the groundwater there and contaminating the Columbia River.

[teryang]

12. BMI also put Voter News Service a media exit poll consortium

...out of business for election day, 2004. What is a biological warfare defense contractor doing in the election business?

At the time of the anthrax attacks BMI still had job opportunities for qualified individuals to work in mobile biological warfare defense vans designed for biological warfare defense. Possible also suitable for delivering anthrax to a mail box without leaving a trail although at least one person who claimed expertise told me this is not so. These ads for the BW defense team recruitment disappeared shortly thereafter.

[LunaC]

13. Battelle and CBIAC

The CBIAC is supported by Horne Engineering Services, Inc., Innovative Emergency Management, Inc., MTS Technologies, Inc., QuickSilver Analytics, Inc., and SciTech, Inc., is a full service Department of Defense (DoD) Information Analysis Center (IAC) under contract to the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), Director of Defense Research and Engineering (DDR&E) and administratively managed by the Defense Technical Information Center (DTIC) under the DoD IAC Program Office (Contract No.SPO700-00-D-3180). The CBIAC serves as the focal point for DoD Chemical and Biological Defense (CBD) scientific and technical information. It provides services to DoD organizations, other government groups, and their approved contractors. Service to other parties is limited to the publicly accessible information on this web site.

http://www.cbiac.apgea.army.mil/
==========================================

Horne Engineering works with Bechtel National, Inc., and the Department of Defense dealing with “lethal legacies of twentieth century warfare”. Services include - Chemical/biological/radiological/explosive detection and decontamination

http://www.horne.com/company/index.html

Innovative Emergency Management, Inc.- Client - United States Army Chemical Materials Agency (formerly the Soldier and Biological Chemical Command)

http://www.ieminc.com/About/fed_clients.htm


QuickSilver Analytics, Inc., - Services - Worldwide On-Site Sampling and Analysis for Chemical Warfare Materials (CWM)

http://www.chembiokits.com/laboratory_services.html


SciTech, Inc. - “The forte of the company is its expertise in chemical weapons and chemical agents, including, data collection, data management, monitoring and demilitarization operations.” Client: U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defense (MRICD)

http://www.scitechinc.com/about.htm



Nothing but bio-chemical connections!

[Peter Frank]

14. Great Job - K&R...

Nothhing but evil comes out of PNAC.

[gulfcoastliberal]

16. K&R

Excellent!

[mom cat]

17. And this shocking bit from your first link: (read it all!)

Missing Link: How Right-Wing Neo-Cons
Created `Democratic Leadership Council'
by Michele Steinberg

Missing Link: How Right-Wing Neo-Cons Created
'Democratic Leadership Council'
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3028neocon_d...

Executive Intelligence Review

This article appears in the July 18, 2003 issue of Executive
Intelligence Review.


Democrats may be still suffering under the delusion that the
Democratic Leadership Council--which brags that the "top four"
Democratic Presidential candidates are "Blair Democrats" who
supported the Iraq War--is something other than a right-wing
Trojan Horse and protection racket for Vice President Dick Cheney,
as Democratic Presidential pre-candidate Lyndon LaRouche has
exposed. Some even think that the DLC wants to win the Presidency
in 2004.

Au contraire! An ongoing investigation by EIR into the roots of
the DLC, points to the evidence that it is out to destroy the
Democratic Party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The DLC is
following the footsteps of its neo-conservative, war-mongering
predecessor organizations of the 1970s: the Coalition for a
Democratic Majority (CDM), founded in 1972 by the likes of Richard
Perle, Midge Decter, Norman Podhoretz, Irving Kristol, and Jeane
Kirkpatrick, among others; the Committee on the Present Danger
(CPD), founded in 1976 by Richard Perle, Midge Decter, Norman
Podhoretz, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick, et al.; and the
Committee for the Free World (CFW), founded in 1981 by exactly the
same crew. Rounding out the picture, CFW's chairman was Dick
Cheney's Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.

Nowadays, the CDM/CPD/CFW are associated with the Republican
Party--particularly with those neo-conservative devotees of Leo
Strauss around the Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal. But these organizations
are the direct antecedents to the Democratic Leadership Council,
and CDM's veterans maintain close coordination with the DLC to
ensure that the Democratic Party does nothing effectively to stop
the imperial policy of pre-emptive war--even pre-emptive nuclear
war--that the Cheney/Rumsfeld gang has laid out. The DLC, and its
affiliates--the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI) and the New
Democratic Network (NDN)--are on a full-scale campaign to destroy
every other faction in the Democratic Party, and silence criticism
of the Iraq War.

The "missing link" between the "Democratic" DLC and the
now-"Republican" CDM/CPD/CFW neo-cons, is the notorious Social
Democrats-USA, (SDUSA), whose chairman, Penn Kemble, was the
Executive Director of the Coalition for a Democratic Majority in
1972, until he brought in Richard Perle's underling Stephen Bryen
to take his place. Bryen, who created the Jewish Institute for
National Security Affairs (JINSA) in the early 1980s, when he
served as Perle's aide at the Department of Defense, is another
leading member of the neo-conservative gang that wants to go to
war against the entire Arab world in the name of anti-terrorism.
Providing daily coordination between Perle and Bryen would be
Joshua Muravchik, a fixture at nearly every American Enterprise
Institute event--but also a leader of SDUSA since its creation.


Much more at:
http://www.leftgatekeepers.com/articles/MissingLinkHowRightWingNeoConsCreatedDemocraticLeadershipCouncilByMicheleSteinberg.htm

[Peter Frank]

20. Wow!...

Good catch.

[sellitman]

23. LaRouche is crazier than a shithouse mouse

Please don't quote this dirtbag on DU. I think we can do better.

[LunaC]

25. Here's a better link for you

Neoconservative Legacy

Jackson's hard line on the Soviet Union and his strong support for Israel made him a favorite of an increasingly influential group of formerly liberal but strongly anti-Communist intellectuals and politicians who came to be known as the neoconservatives. Many neoconservatives who supported Jackson's presidential bids gravitated to Ronald Reagan and the Republican party after Jackson's defeats. Among these were Richard Perle, a longtime Jackson staffer who worked under Dorothy Fosdick, Jackson's top foreign policy adviser, and Paul Wolfowitz, another member of the Jackson circle, both of whom went on to play prominent roles developing Middle East policy in the George W. Bush administration.

http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5516

[electropop]

27. Yeah, sorry, my eyes roll when I see the name LaRouche.

I live near his home base and I frequently see his nutjob supporters on the street in DC.

[mom cat]

31. Check out the facts. I was not quoting LaRouche. Look at the roots

of PNAC and the DLC.

[mom cat]

30. Sorry, but I was not quoting LaRouche

[IndyOp]

32. Executive Intelligence Review is a LaRouche publication...

I have to take it with quite a few pinches of salt - they are *nuts* - I was 'phone stalked' by them for a year after making the mistake of talking to one when he called last December. They got my name from an online petition I signed after the theft of the 2004 election.

[LunaC]

33. Then do your own google search

There's tons of info out there re: Jackson and the neocons if you're willing to look for it.

Here, let me help do your homework...

Scoop Jackson's protégés shaping Bush's foreign policy
By Alex Fryer
Seattle Times Washington bureau

As legacies go, few elected officials from the state cast a longer shadow than the late Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson, who served 31 years in the Senate and launched two unsuccessful presidential campaigns.

<...> Many of the young aides who were drawn to work for Jackson in the 1970s because of his unwavering opposition to the Soviet Union now help shape the Bush administration's foreign policy.
<...>
The list of former Jackson staff members reads like a who's who of foreign-policy experts.

- Richard Perle is an adviser to the Defense Department and considered a major influence on Bush administration foreign policy.
- Doug Feith is undersecretary of defense for policy at the Pentagon.
- Elliott Abrams, special assistant to the president focusing on Middle East affairs, worked as special counsel to Jackson.
- Paul Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of defense and one of Bush's Iraq policy experts, never served directly under Jackson. But they had a long relationship that began when Wolfowitz, then a 29-year-old graduate student, helped Jackson prepare charts when the senator wanted to persuade fellow lawmakers to fund an antiballistic-missile program in 1969.
<...>

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/15/201851/101

I trust that the Seattle Times and Dailykos will satisfactorily meet your standards.

[rman]

41. i'm not sure that means everything he says is untrue. nt

[sellitman]

47. The same could be said for any lunatic.

That's not a reason to hold them up to some higher standard the few times they do. Bury the bastards!

[rman]

64. If the lunatic says the same thing as some sane people say,

it doesn't mean that what they say is untrue.

This has nothing to do with holding the lunatic in high regard,
in fact the lunatic is pretty much irrelevant.

What remains is the message, and we should focus on that, not on the messengers.

Unless of course you believe that the sane people are insane simply because they say the same thing as a lunatic says.

That's like saying a clock that is working is in fact broken, because twice a day it agrees with a clock that is broken.

[sellitman]

66. What I said is we can find a better messenger to quote.

One who has some gravitas, not a loony like this creep. I don't quote Newsmax either for the same reason. I'm sure they get a story right on RARE occasion but why go there?

[SupplyConcerns]

48. Yes, thank you!

His supporting crowd of 20-somethings are shockingly deluded... and they don't know any of the basics about current affairs of how government works.

[Dover]

59. Fascinating thanks. Not surprising but good to see some solid links

emerging that may wake a few folks up. All of these fellows show up at the Bildeberg and Davos meetings. They'd like nothing better than to create disillusionment and disdain for national governments to increase the vacuum of power so they can assure their own global governance...privatization and de-regulation. That's also why they've looted our treasury and are in the process of dismantling our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Anyone who thinks that is purely a neocon agenda hasn't been paying attention.

"It would have been quite impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries ..." - David Rockefeller, Bilderberg club permanent member, 1991

http://www.bilderberg.org/2005.htm#leave

http://www.weforum.org/

[ClayZ]

18. I grew up in the Tri Cities.... ARGH!

What ever they have been doing over there has been scaring me for 55 years.... We live East of the mountains now... near Seattle.

[babsbunny]

19. Not Ohio Again!!!!!

I am in Columbus, and the CEO of Battelle is one our board members. This whole State is corrupt!

[mod mom]

45. I agree-we have had our share of BFEE involvement.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. You're supposed to forget about that little anthrax thing.

Now go about your business, citizen. Nothing to see here.

[BamaBecky]

35. Goodness Gracious! K, R, & B

[Al-CIAda]

36. .

[redacted]

38. Another reason why all DU'ers need to watch BBC Newsnight!

Why? To see the reports like this one censored in the U.S. media.

The current program is always available for 24 hours after each weeknight broadcast at http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight.

Nice work LunaC!

[LunaC]

42. If anyone wants to know what's REALLY going on here

The foreign media is the only place to hear the Truth. Thanks for the heads up about the BBC broadcasts - I'll definitely make a point to check it out regularly.

[ngGale]

40. How can they be this darn organized....

and corrupt. Another wish I could leave the country night - this crap is just too, too, much for me to take. One piece of puzzle after another, almost every day.
I know they want us to live in fear...and I do.:scared:

[Dover]

60. How? In the words of David Rockefeller ......

"It would have been quite impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries ..." - David Rockefeller, Bilderberg club permanent member, 1991

[AntiFascist]

69. Welcome to the New World Order....

it would be an interesting theory if the Bush family plan all along was to bring down the American government so that the "supranational sovereignty" could eventually take control.

[Al-CIAda]

43. .

[Al-CIAda]

44. BBC & Learning Channel - Anthrax Investigation

Documentary looking into the anthrax letters and who really sent them

stream
real player
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/anthraxinvestigation.ram

download
real player
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/anthraxinvestigation.rm

[mom cat]

49. Thanks for the info.

[rman]

63. That's very interesting

A smoking gun, like WTC7 - no wonder you hardly ever hear about it.

[Moochy]

50. Who cleaned up the Florida Anthrax Attack?

http://www.nysun.com/article/23660 Giuliani Firm Anthrax Work Ends in a Feud - November 29, 2005 - The New York Sun - NY Newspaper

"There's a pretty good satisfaction that they got 100% kill in that building," Mr. O'Connor said.

In the Bio-One episode, it was photos of celebrities like Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and Princess Diana that became the point of contention that ultimately soured the firm's involvement in the widely touted anthrax cleanup project. The photos were among archives of the Enquirer, the Star, and other publications stored in the parking garage at American Media Inc. The wax-lined cardboard containers were doused in a chemical rinse while being moved, but most were never fully decontaminated. Bio-One's chief operating officer and general counsel, Karen Cavanagh, said in an interview yesterday that company officials were not pleased when they felt forced to walk away from the project earlier this year. "It was a very frustrating time for us," she said. "There was the issue of the contents and the photographs and who owned those and who was responsible for them."

Strange they started hiding this article behind their pay service today, bummer. Anyways it describes how cleaning chemicals were poured over the national enquirer/Sun photo archives.. and destroyed most of them.
And because of this the company is quitting the cleanup over the liability, at millions of dollars of losses.

How curious, given the rumors around the florida anthrax death, about him having some pictures of *.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/10/national/main...

"Workers began pumping a potent chemical into the former headquarters of a supermarket tabloid Sunday to clean up the first target in a series of deadly anthrax attacks in 2001.

The cleanup is being led by BioONE, a company established by former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Sabre Technical Services, which decontaminated other buildings hit by anthrax attacks.

"It will be a symbol that we can deal with these new risks that we live with in our new world," Giuliani said.

[petgoat]

53. What Have You Got Against Foil Hats?

I stuck a feather in mine and called it macaroni.

[bloom]

55. kick...

[Cleita]

57. Good and revealing research LunaC. Thanks.n/t

[Jeffersons Ghost]

61. please

Explain to me why those low-life con-artists are called "tin-foil hats." I'm fairly new here.

[LunaC]

62. Tin-foil hat

People who thought they were victims of government mind-control experiments would line their hats with tin-foil so their thoughts couldn’t be probed. The term morphed to take on a more generic meaning and nowadays those who believe in conspiracy theories are said to be wearing a tin-foil hat.

Since the evil activities of the PNAC are well-documented, discussions about them don’t fall into the “conspiracy theory” category, hence “tin foil hats are NOT required”

[Jeffersons Ghost]

68. thanks

I was confussed... i thought tin-foil-hatters were spies from the Right-Wing who come in here to post. My heart-felt appologies to those of you with "conspiricy theories." You're entitled to believe whatever you want and, frankly, some of those theories hold water and are down-right spooky.

All that said, is it "freepers" who might post devisive or misleading messages on DU? If not, what's a freeper?

[Al-CIAda]

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