Can you ban someone from a funeral?

[grace0418]

I was reading about the King funeral and I just kept thinking that, if I were one of her children, I would have told Dubya, Pickles and Poppy that they were not welcome. Seriously, when I'm grieving my mother I shouldn't have to endure their self-serving bullshit. Nor should anyone else who is there have to endure it.

RWers talk about making it political, but what the hell was Dumbass doing there? He has no business showing up and speechifying at the funeral of a civil rights angel. He's not worthy of licking the bottoms of her shoes much less attending her funeral. Why should a bigotted, war-mongering, greedy, rich, fascist mother-fucker be allowed to say ANYTHING at Coretta Scott King's funeral? He stands for everything she struggled against her whole life.

Maybe they had no choice. God knows King George thinks he can doing anything he wants whenever he wants. It just made me so sick to see them there.

[ET Awful]

1. Wasn't there a news blurb before hand that said Shrub changed his

plans in order to attend? As in he didn't plan on going then someone advised him to so he modified his schedule.

[napi21]

2. Wasn't there a BIG TIFF over someone in the Wellstone

family dis-inviting some Pub to Paul's funeral? I can't remember who it was.

[seriousstan]

7. Cheney

[atldem]

3. Actually that church

is pretty right leaning in its congregation. they have defended the president's faith-based inititives and the King daughter, Bernice along with the church pastor Eddie Long, led a march here in Atlanta promoting the Ban on Gay Marriage Amendment in 2004.

[sui generis]

8. at odds with her mother who was actually supportive of

ALL marriage commitments.

I remember the flap over her comments with church leaders jumping up and saying she was "out of touch" and "a relic".

No cynicism here!

Bernice annoys the crap out of me anyway - I have always heard her ring false like a cracked bell.

[grace0418]

12. How sad for Coretta to see her daughter become that.

Who's the one who's really out of touch? Doesn't sound like Coretta was.

[DanCa]

4. Do you remember when Chimpy attended the late John Paul 2's funeral?

No one would shake his hand during the peace. I can't begin to fathom how anyone could buy his Christian routine anymore. Hell it offends me when he mentions the word religion. When will people wake up to this fraud?

[sui generis]

5. she struggled against wealth?

I don't believe wealth is a sin.

Just the same I agree with you on every other point. I just wish she had made clear and public that she didn't want 41 or 43 there.

It would have made freeper heads explode all over this country in such profusion you would have been able to see it from outer space.

The mundane truth is he really didn't want to be there himself at all, but his PR and media krewe said that it would be worse to not show up THAN to show up, so he was kind of stuck.

Again, Coretta coulda issued a resounding slap from beyond the grave if she'da thought of it.

[grace0418]

10. Allow me to clarify.

I never said wealth was a sin. I mentioned in my string of insults that he was rich, and I said that he stands for everything she struggled against, but I think it's simplifying it a bit to say A+B=C.

I do believe his wealth was largely unearned. I do believe that his family and their peers amassed their wealth at the expense of others. And I do believe they continue to think only of themselves and how they can gain (and keep) even more wealth no matter how it effects others or how unethical they have to be. That kind of wealth is bad (I hesitate to call it a sin), and I think Coretta Scott King would definitely be against gaining fortune at the expense of others.

But like you said, we agree on everything else.

[sui generis]

15. I was just gently tugging your leg grace

;)

But thanks for the clarification. There are those who aren't usually so thoughtful and well considered - I appreciate your comments!

[grace0418]

16. Sorry, I just wanted to make sure.

Thanks for your kind words! :hi:

[cantstandbush]

6. I am certain that the program was exactly as Bernice wanted it.

She is an elder in the mega church were this service was held. They are part of the "faith-based" mega church movement of evangelicals and others who have aligned themselves behind the RW and which receive huge sums of money from the Feds under the various "faith-based' initiatives from the Bush admin. The Rethugs were wise in going after the church-based voters who are joined at the hip to their pastoral leadership.. These leaders have successfully tied the "prosperity message" to the RW "faith-based" movement. They don't stick much to the message of Christ, preferring instead the message of the Old Testament which promises all the goodies to the "chosen." These people have now become the "chosen" taking message of Paul and others in the New Testament as to who is really a Jew and the meaninglessness of "circumcision of the flesh" choosing instead the "circumcision of the heart" to claim their place as the new "chosen." You have to be in their midst for a while to understand but the promise of wealth, health, power, and Armageddon is very enticing and powerful among these people. Christ is almost secondary to their agenda which has now been meshed with the PNAC agenda.

[grace0418]

11. That's really sad.

I suppose you're right.

[cantstandbush]

17. What's really sad is that most people don't know about this. n/t

[grace0418]

18. Too true.

That would be my worst nightmare as a parent.

[RufusEarl]

9. King George

With King George being present, they all had a chance to speak truth to power. And I believe allot did just that, and that what all bitching is about.

[grace0418]

14. True, and I hope it was really uncomfortable for him to hear the

truth and not be able to shield himself from it. No hand-picked audience, no "protest zones" three miles away, he had to sit there and listen to it. The fucker. I wish they had said more.

[cyclezealot]

13. Did not represent me.

He is not my president.Don't claim him. Him and his illegit elections.