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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:00 PM Original message |
Official Senate Committee Hearing - Electronic Surveillance - Thread 12 |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you Viva.....you ROCK !!! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. OMG! He said the prez has already stated we are not going to engage in |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. They just redefined what torture is, then they can be free to do |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. He was SMIRKING when he said it |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. They are taking mincing words to new heights! |
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Surya Gayatri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Goddamn, Gonzo's voice is unbearable! |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. What questions? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Graham: Congress has the authority to regulate the military. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Inherent authority argument gone too far, says Graham. |
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carolinalady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. At least Lindsay has the good sense to be scared-it could be |
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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Urinary powers?!!? |
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carolinalady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Did I say that? Slap my hand! I meant Unitary--hehehehehe. |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. "Urinary powers"?? As in "pissing on the constitution"? LOL nt |
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Surya Gayatri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Yes, his point about some future prez |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Or maybe he has some deep dark secrets |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. STFU Lindsey and just ask the damn question! Oy Vey! |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. Graham seems uncomfortable with Gonzales' credibility to act lawfully |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Original message |
it's an act. |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Wasn't Lindsey a Jag Lawer? |
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gimama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
63. he is pro-Soldier |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. Someone must have gotten to Lindsay |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
85. yes, he is surprizing me--but hey--go for it Lindsey |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. Well, go figure..Lindsey's concerned about no checks and balances. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I don't know Lindsey's full background but true Conservative |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. LINDSEY WAS A JAG ATTORNEY...N/T |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. Did I hear Gramm correctly? |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That seems to be Graham's plan. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Congress has a different remedy, under the Constitution |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. If that's what he thinks, why didn't he join the Dems and get this |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Uh I thought we already had that?? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Thereby letting * skate on anything done previously? not acceptable. nt |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. Did A Double-Take on that Myself - Yes! |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. Congress gave you a one way highway, not 2 lane highway! |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. Lindsay is doing well!!! |
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TexasLady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. agreed....so far |
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LeftNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. agreed...hate the bastard...but I agree |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. HOLY MOLY Gonzo admitted he wasn't prepared! |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
28. ok, who has taken over Lindsey Graham's body??? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Not me. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:14 PM Original message |
LOL! |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. He must have drawn the short straw for these hearings |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. ... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I know! The real Graham must be tied to a chair somewhere. LOL. n/t |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Whoever it is I guess we should |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. Is Lindsey up for a Law School professorship? Sounded like it. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. LINDSEY WAS A JAG..N/T |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I know, and that in part is why he talks of the UCMJ. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
34. Schumer up |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. So, the Republican attempt to get rid of this will be to amend FISA |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. And Ignore The Fact They Broke The Law nt |
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Surya Gayatri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. Yes, this will be part of the Reep rationale-- |
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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
37. Dems should thank Lindsay Graham |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Just don't let him sweep this whole thing under the carpet |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Yes we should |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Original message |
Agree...! |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Original message |
I sent him a note |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. 3rd part of Jackson analysis: difference between Graham + Gonzo |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. here is a link to a NYT piece that includes "Jackson" |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. and more here: |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. Schumer calling Specter out on not showing the tape. GOOD! |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. what tape would that be for the cubebound? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. it's the one where Bush says that you have to have a court |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. Schumer up now. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
52. Haha, no serious disagreement on the program |
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carolinalady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Be very clear-only testifying about what the President has |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. Schumer: The former #2 Comey refused to give it his blessing. Is that true |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
57. No serious disagreements? Is that why Asscroft would not |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Can we just fry the bastard while he is here on TV? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. Gonzales mincing again--"I'm answering questions about the program we're |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Isn't that disturbing? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Oh, boy, the next Dem Prez better open the shutters |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Yes. Someone needs to call him out on that parsing. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. at a guess, our mail and email |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. jinx! |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. hee. Have a coke. |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Mail program, infiltrating groups (like Quakers) program ... |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Scary thought: how many Americans are in those secret prison camps? |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. And they keep bringing that up ... really makes me wonder |
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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
61. A thought on Graham's line of questioning. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
83. yes, he's obscuring the real issue.. being a polititian |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
62. Gonzales ONLY testifying about what the President has confirmed |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
65. Only testifying about what the President has confirmed - not discussing |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
66. Gonzo: I am only here to testify on what the Preznut has confirmed. (?) |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
69. " I am only here to talk on what the President already confirmed" |
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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
73. Specter jumping in to avoid smearing his ass |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
74. Bring in Comey and screw Ashcroft! n/t |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
75. Schumer wants Ashcroft and Comey to |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. torture boy squirming -- wont give a yes or no |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. Spector's Smirking... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
80. boy, gondo boy is still squirming. |
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LeftNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. WHY WONT HE SAY NO HE DOESNT CARE? nt |
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carolinalady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Original message |
Because he knows the President will not let Ashcroft sing. |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. And, Specter is Helping Him w/His Answers... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
88. Will the Admin claim privilege? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. my prediction: Comey will INSIST on taking the oath. n/t |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
89. No offense but Schumer just wasted his time. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Pointing out hypocricy of Admin is not a waste of time IMHO eom |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. round and round about Comey and Ashcroft isn't pointing out hypocrits |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. No, he asked it so many ways without getting an answer, he can't |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
90. answer the frickin question! |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. SPector just gave Schumer 2 more minutes. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
91. Specter getting very annoyed |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Please refrain from getting to the truth..............nt |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
92. is he claiming attorney/ client privlege between himself and the pres? |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. He is claiming that Ashcroft and Comey might have that conflict |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. apparently his job is to interperet the constitution so long as it pleases |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Makes him look all the more suspect. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. why, yes, he is the AG of the United States |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
98. THREAD 13 IS UP! |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
102. Did Gonzo just say that his client is the POTUS? (!!!!?????) |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. He was chief counsel to the pResident before he was AG. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
105. Isn't Specter fair? |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-06-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
108. Locked -Discussion continued |
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