Dateline, predator show. These guys all look like they have bush stickers on their cars.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

Creepy.

[madrchsod]

1. the whole concept of the show is fucking creepy

who in god`s name would watch this as entertainment?

[Epiphany4z]

2. hey I am watching

I used to read pervertedjustice.com..they are the ones working with dateline and the police in these shows....It is amazing to see how there little web sight has become so strong in fighting these guys. anyway its like train wreck sometimes you just have to stop and look.

What is really amazing is most of these guys have seen the shows and yet they show up..

[madrchsod]

3. ya i admit it --i did watch the show.

yes it is amazing just how desperate and naive these creeps are..

[tinfoilinfor2005]

4. I'm not saying that there aren't perverts of all political persuasions

but they sure did remind me of our beloved MORANS. Maybe it was the Georgia thing.

[ikojo]

6. I watched the god warrior in the hood

She is not happy.

[AlCzervik]

7. gee i thought the money "Was tainted"? Isn't that what she said the 1st time

she was on that show?

[ikojo]

8. Yes, but she used it for a gastric bypass...guess it

wasn't too tainted.

She is in a black nationalist family now. To say she is not happy is an understatement. Of course the woman who is with her family is not happy either.

From the previews it doesn't appear either woman grew intellectually or emotionally from their experiences.

[AlCzervik]

9. yeah i'll be skipping that, the new season of Monk starts tonight.

[ikojo]

11. It was a difficult choice...Monk or the god warrior

The god warrior won...There are many ways I can see Monk.

[lonestarnot]

5. Icky freaks. Can't stand watching that crap, but I guess it's a good

program for the naive.

[Kingshakabobo]

10. Little off topic......

Why can't people STFU and ask for an attorney when under arrest or detained?????

Jeez. I just got home and caught a part of the show. Talk about rolling over and playing dead. Don't get me wrong, I don't have any sympathy for child predators but IF THE COPS QUESTION YOU while you are under arrest/detained ........STFU. They are not your friends!!!

[ironflange]

12. Have a seat.

Do you like motorhomes?
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[Dogmudgeon]

13. All we need now is the Gitmo Gang to show up

It's a staged show, being produced in association with a bunch of vigilantes, all of whom are exploiting one of the primary hot-button issues of a society of hypocritical, sexually miserable neurotics. The "creeps" could include any number of ringers, especially if the producers don't get their quota of victims with "that certain look" who break down and weep when the dozen-or-so brave gun-wielding cops knock the unarmed, crying, submissive suspect to the ground.

No potential for abuse there!

I'm surprised they don't have a segment called "America's Funniest Prison Rape Joke", with the panelists from American Idol.

The show is a fancy version of Orwell's Two Minutes' Hate with one hand on the electric shock prod and the other hand on the shriveled, shrinking American wee-wee.

Who, then, are the real creeps?

--p!
Innocent until proven creepy-looking.

[cool user name]

14. That's an interesting perspective ...

I happen to think that everybody, the perverts and Dateline NBC, are all fucked up.

I share your sentiments.

[Dogmudgeon]

15. Thanks

In case any of the lurkers were wondering, I'm quite concerned about pedophiles, too. But the way to deal with them is to get them into aggressive, thorough-going treatment when they initially seek it, which a good many of them do early on. Even Jesse Timmendequas, who murdered Megan ("Megan's Law") Kanka, sought treatment shortly before he began to act out against children; Megan Kanka was his second victim, and there may have been a few others that he was never caught for.

Like many such criminals, Timmendequas had a history of both seeking and refusing treatment as well, but the early chance at preventing this crime was lost due to funding problems -- naturally.

I am wary of witch hunts, even when the "witches" in question are what Dubya would call "Evil Doers". There is no doubt that adults' sexual acting out with children is a Bad Thing. However, our national Pedo Frenzy is more destructive than preventive. It's for kicks and vicarious thrills, and to hell with the children. And we're stigmatizing and giving hard prison time to people who are in no way pedophiles, including a large number of young men with girlfriends between the ages of 14 and 18. Many convictions have been made in spite of the fact the sexual contact didn't occur, which would have put my father behind bars -- he started socially (i.e., not romantically) dating my mother when she was still a "minor" and he was in his 20s. In at least one case, a teacher who was the unofficial school photographer was convicted for having "non-pornographic erotica" -- half of the pictures entered into evidence were of family members, and the other half were the school pictures he had taken, dumped from his camera into the computer. Most people with digital cameras do this as a matter of course.

There's also been at least two cases I can recall of men who did not give assistance to children in mortal danger who later died, based on a fear of being accused of molestation. In one case in England, the man was charged with a crime. How many similar cases have gone unreported?

And if you're a man who is over 30, single, and has had an inconsistent employment record, be afraid. Be very afraid. That's a big set of red flags for a career-hungry prosecutor. There are many reasons not related to pedophilia why a man would be in such a demographic, but who looks at facts that don't make the case? It's open season on bachelors; those who don't make the 100 Most Eligible Hunks list, that is. And single women are not entirely safe, either. After the LeTourneau case, an entire generation of junior DAs went looking for their very own Mary Kays.

The Dateline Predators (!) shows are revolting to me. I don't like to rant at people who enjoy the punishment spectacle -- thousands of people used to turn out for floggings and executions, and still do in countries where they are still public -- but we need to collectively put aside our emotionalizing and figure out what we want for our kids.

Do we want the thrill of morally-justified hate, and the spectacle of destruction of a popularly-convicted scapegoat?;

or;

Do we want to be able to identify, intercept, treat, and keep children safe from people with a fairly uncommon but tremendously destructive disorder?

I have no doubt which one I'd choose. The auto-da-fé model is a prescription for widespread misery, trouble, and more of the same. Get the pedophiles away from the kids, and get the lurid pedo-sex-crime-hate frenzy off the tube.

--p!

[cool user name]

16. Well said ...

However, I am curious about the demographic you allude to in your post. Why is this attractive for "career-hungry prosecutor(s)?"

[Dogmudgeon]

17. Profiling -- it's the supposed "pedo profile"

1. Over 30.


2. Unmarried.


3. If married, not sexually active in or out of the marriage.


4. If unmarried, dates single moms. (Note, most single women over 25 have children.)


5. They are usually family men.

(The above four covers just about all of us, but the bachelor stereotype is strongest.)

6. More than one break in employment every 5 years or so.


7. Has one or more "child-like" hobbies, such as collecting models, rare animals, or anything else that might be on the prosecutor's list of particulars.


8. Uses terms of endearment toward children: "dear", "sweetie", "little angel", etc.


9. Home is "child-friendly".


10. Heavy internet user.


11. Interest in science fiction and the "fannish" community. (Yes, that has shown up on more than one profile.)

There are many "pedo profiles" floating around on the internet, and nearly every single man and most married men will fit into the profile. The profiles go easier on women, but there are obviously a significant number of women who are attracted to children, too.

It's very similar to the red scares -- anything and everything can and will be used to prove that the "suspect" is guilty. In the case of pedo frenzies (as I call them) a lot of people rant about how they're acting in the interest of children (ironic, that), or for extra authority in an argument, that they were themselves molested as children, so they have a right to scream for blood.

Young prosecutors love pedo cases, because they're dramatic, allow the prosecutor to "make his (or her) bones" as being tough on crime, and get on TV frequently. They can then get elected based on such cases, or get hired as corporate "hired guns". Not all junior prosecutors are like that, of course, but it's become quite common. There are far fewer jobs for lawyers than there are lawyers, and a couple of high-profile cases can make a career in politics or the private sector.

One of these days, some alleged (but innocent) "creep" is going to get lynched in a very ugly and horrifying way and a lot of camera phones are going to record it for the world to see. Then, we will have a whole new kind of spectacle to enjoy.

Perhaps even Dateline will cover it.

Stay safe -- get married and make sure to purge your hard drive of all graphics (even HTML bullet images) every day. If you date, make sure the single moms you go out with use lots of drugs, so they don't have custody. Call kids, even your own, "little bastards" and "ugly stinkballs". Develop a reputation as a child-hating "curmudgeon". And NO MORE TREK!

That should reduce your exposure on the profile list to about, oh, 70%.

--p!