"No one is able to save this country."

[Holly_Hobby]

"The PTB will kill him...or her. Wake up."

Quote from my 73 year old Mom. Thoughts? Is it really unimaginable that anyone who tries to roll back the fascism will be snuffed out? I didn't know what to say.

[villager]

1. well, they were in the 60's, of course.

We have to be vastly less naive this time 'round....

[spag68]

2. Your mom

should get to meet Nancy Pelosi

[ileus]

3. Sounds like crazy talk to me

IMHO.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. She's talking about the next President?

Who she's assuming will be a Democrat? Intersting. I think if we are able to get to the point where we have fair elections in 2008 and a Dem wins, we will have gone a long way in rolling back fascism. However it will be very important to be ever vigilant, because the fascists will not all go away--they will merely hide in the shadows until they can creep out again.

If the House and Senate are able to thoroughly investigate everyone and those investigated are prosecuted, that will also be helpful.

[Holly_Hobby]

7. Yes, we were talking about Dem Presidential candidates

She longs for the near-idyllic '50's. At least it was idyllic for her and my Dad.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. Ah yes, the 50s

I was a child then. One of my friends contracted polio and was confined to a wheelchair. My mother did the same job as men but for less money because of her gender. My black friends faced segregation and Jim Crow laws if they moved South. (I was lucky in that my neighborhood school was integrated)

[Holly_Hobby]

14. That's what I mean

It was idyllic for her - marriage, 2 kids, mortgage, 2 cars.

[nebenaube]

15. IMHO

We won't have another "real" terrorist attack until all of the most powerful Dem leaders are in charge at which point we can probably kiss DC goodbye, then the official "shadow goverment" is supposed to kick in...

Since the neo-cons set that up and appointed it's members; do you not suppose that the 'members' in the shadows might very well all be neo-cons?

[Sir Jeffrey]

5. Every generation seems to have an E. Howard Hunt n/t

[Matariki]

6. what's the 'ptb'?

[Holly_Hobby]

8. Powers That Be n/t

[PDJane]

9. Powers that Be

however, I think the US has gone further down the road to fascism than ever before,reading what manages to hit the main stream media........

[leveymg]

10. Why is she afraid of the Portland Trail Blazers?

Acronym Definition
PTB Part Time Basis
PTB Partial Test Ban (nuclear weapons)
PTB Partido Trabalhista Brasileiro (Brazilian Labor Party)
PTB Patellar Tendon Bearing
PTB Peer Transaction Bus
PTB Penn Treebank
PTB Personal Touch Banking
PTB Petersburg, Virginia (airport code)
PTB Phosphotyrosine-Binding
PTB Physikalisch Technische Bundesanstalt (Germany)
PTB Place to Be
PTB Please Text Back
PTB Portland Trail Blazers
PTB Portuguese Brazilian (language)
PTB Pounds Per Thousand Barrels
PTB Power Turbine Balance
PTB Powers That Be
PTB Pre-Term Birth
PTB Program Time Base
PTB Protective Technology Branch
PTB Proto-Tibeto-Burman (languages)
PTB Ptahhotep's Team Balancer (Counter-Strike)
PTB Pulmonary Tuberculosis
PTB Puro Tango Blast (Texas street/prison gang)
PTB Push the Button

;-) :+ :evilgrin:

Oh. "The Powers That Be" - Great book by David Halberstam

[Holly_Hobby]

12. Oh, don't get her started on the press LOL n/t

[leveymg]

16. The NYT, WaPo, and CBS aren't what they used to be.

I'd worry more about who might Push The Button and Ptahhotep's Counter-strike.

Or, is it the Brazilian Labour Party?

Guess it depends on her attitude toward radiation poisoning and spicy food. :silly: :nuke:

[The2ndWheel]

11. No, no, no, they won't kill them

You bring them into the system. Which I guess could be killing, in a way.

Today women and blacks can be the CEO of a corporation. They can be your representatives in Congress. Instead of changing the way the world works, they're brought into the existing way of doing things, and since you can't change the system from the inside, no more threat. You don't have to "kill" anyone, because there is no other way. Any way of doing, seeing, and being differently were killed off a long time ago.

[Lilith Velkor]

17. We should elect no one to the Presidency

There's a school of thought that says this has already happened twice.

[Totallybushed]

18. No doubt, true, but

what's 'PTB' stand for??