What is the worst thing that happened on their watch?

[helderheid]

[babylonsister]

1. Lying us into war has to be the most odious, and set a pattern. nt

[Redbear]

2. I voted for loss of civil liberties

Civil liberties is one thing about which there has been some degree of agreement across a broad spectrum of this country for a long time.

Bush and his people have destroyed that.

[helderheid]

3. Personally I think all of the above but I voted for Katrina because the whole world watched as *

drowned our city and abandoned our people.

[helderheid]

4. SHIT. Forgot to add stolen elections

[mmonk]

5. End the constitution and put people on the courts

that don't really believe in it. This is the area hardest to recover.

[helderheid]

6. DAMN - so many crimes - yes, end of habeas corpus!

[mmonk]

10. Yes. No matter what we think of our country

and our status, without it, we are not free.

[bluewave]

7. Iraq war. And many thousands would agree were they not dead

at the hands of George W. Bush.

[helderheid]

8. you're right.

[NI4NI]

9. Ignoring Clinton's AlQaeda warnings

Whenever a Reptilian tells me 9/11 was Clinton's fault, I make them a betting proposistion that shuts them up.
I offer to wage them $5 for everytime Shrub said the words "AlQaeda" or "Osama Bin Laden" from 1999 during his first presidential campaign until 9/10/01; But, they got to give me $1 for every time Shrub said "Saddam Hussein" or "Iraq" during that same period of time. I haven't had any takers yet.

[badgerpup]

11. Lost America all the credibility or moral high ground that we once had.

We used to be respected as a country and fairly popular as a people. :hi:

Not any more...our credibility and reputation has been dragged in the sewer.
:nuke:

[welshTerrier2]

12. none of the above ...

the worst thing that happened on their watch is that America first bent and then broke ...

we were not educated enough ...
we were not attentive enough ...
we were not skeptical enough ...
we were not organized enough ...
we were not active enough ...

they almost put an end to the whole damned thing ... had they not been stupid enough to prosecute an unwinnable war, they might have succeeded ...

they broke our election process ... their courts gave away elections and we were unable to stop them ... they bent, folded, spindled and mutilated the voting machines ... they tapped our phones ... they restricted who could travel ... they questioned everyone's patriotism ... they controlled our mass media ... they traumatized our own representatives so badly they failed to stand in opposition ... they took the lives of hundreds of thousands in Iraq ... they have all but completed their theft of Iraqi oil ... they destroyed US prestige in the world by failing to honor our national values ... they have bankrupted the nation ... they pitted Americans against one another in such a polarizing way that our institutions became disfunctional ... they suppressed the rights of the minority party ... they used our military to procure private commercial profits ... they poisoned our air and water and raped our national parks ... they squandered the tiny, tiny window left us to stave off the ravages of global warming ...

and ...

we were not educated enough ...
we were not attentive enough ...
we were not skeptical enough ...
we were not organized enough ...
we were not active enough ...

to stop them ...

that was the worst thing that happened on their watch ... had we been better, they could not have succeeded to the extent they did ... we need to redouble our efforts for they will surely try again someday far too soon ... i just hope we are more prepared, more organized and more active the next time ... i deeply fear that we will not be ... too few seem to have learned very much from this last scare ... we survived in spite of ourselves; not because of ourselves ...

[helderheid]

13. thank you

[welshTerrier2]

14. allow me to share some wisdom you referenced

"We are the ones we've been waiting for." ---The Elders, Oraibi, Arizona Hopi Nation

it makes my point far better than i ever could ...

[helderheid]

15. It does. :) I refer to it often. thank you so much

:hug:

[sandnsea]

16. Katrina

Wars are horrific and almost always pointless, they're always for some resource or other, or stupid displays of superiority. That is as true of Indians fighting on the plains as it is of us fighting in Iraq. It's awful, but a fairly common state and not unique to this butthead in the White House.

Katrina, on the other hand, is the complete and total collapse of anything resembling the values of this country. We let our own people stranded in a flood of biblical proportions. That's the kind of thing we criticize these tin dictators for, like letting people eat grass in N Korea. On that day, we became the worst of the worst. Actually worse than the worse, because we did it with our stomachs full and our eyes wide open, we just sat there and let all those people die. That's what Bush brought this country to and that will always be the greatest shame of his Presidency.