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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:05 PM
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6 Reasons why we invaded Iraq (and 4 more why the GOP wasn't against it)
These thoughts have been rattling around in my head for a while and I feel compelled to put them in a form that is both public and coherent. :-)

Reason 1: To re-establish the American military presence in the Gulf

The most public reason was to appear competent and proactive. That is domestic politics at work. But with the Middle East relatively quiet and the Soviet Union, our presence there was fading as it was no longer needed. This left our leadership nervous about a crisis happening with us not being in a position to do anything about it.

Reason 2: Iraq is a great country to invade

We had been there once before, and had maintained constant surveillance and reconnaissance of the country since 1990. Weapons inspectors were all over the place. We had detailed maps and invasion routes and good intelligence of enemy capabilities and positions.

Iraq's military had been devastated in the 1991 war and not been rebuilt. There was no air force, and the equipment of the Iraqi Army was obsolete.

Iraq is also great for invasions geographically. It is mostly flat and open, great for fast-moving, hard-hitting armored vehicles, long-range artillery and rocket launchers, attack helicopters, and fighter jets providing front-line combat support.

And nobody liked Saddam. We all knew he was a murderous. sociopathic thug that nobody credible was going to stand up for. The constant sanctions on Iraq, along with the military overflights of the "no-fly zones" gives the public impression that it's only kinda sorta maybe a sovereign country.

Oh, and it turns out is a shitty country to occupy.

Reason #3: Iraq has a lot of oil

And not in the "It's an oil-rich MidEast country" sense, either. During the Iran-Iraq War, from 1980 to 1988, Iraqi oil production was down. Unlike Iran, which has a very long coastline, Iraq only has a little chunk of the Persian Gulf coastline and one major port city, Basra. Basra was easily in range of Iranian forces throughout the conflict, inhibiting oil exports. As a result, in that 8-year time span, the rest of the Middle East was pumping normally while Iraq's output was lowered.

Then during Operation Desert Shield to Operation Iraqi Freedom, Iraq was under embargoes of one sort or another, again keeping the oil in the ground instead of in your gas tank. And after the invasion of 2003, insurgents and ongoing civil war has kept the oil in the ground. Neglected and outdated equipment is not replaces and barely running, repairs are being undone by sabotage, and new equipment is hard to come by as nobody wants to spend a lot of cash on stuff that's going to be blown up.

So, the rest of the Middle East has been pumping happily along while the Iraqi oil stays in the ground. Now there is a lot more left under Iraq than the other countries in the MidEast, and Iraq will probably be the last country in the region to run out of oil to pump.

Reason %4: Oil=National Security

In their single-mindedness they equate oil with national security. Anything that keeps America form getting the oil that it needs must be destroyed. America, (I mean the world, the world) must have free access to those oil markets. And they are not really happy about anybody but American oil companies doing the pumping, either.

Now, it is true that oil is vital to our nation's economy. A hell of a lot depends on it. Motor fuels, plastics, heating fuels, and lubricants are critical to our modern way of living. However, I think maybe they worry too much. Any country that has oil will sell it, regardless of who is in charge. And the global marketplace is flexible. Even if a hostile Iraq won't sell to us in particular, that fact will shift other sources of oil to us as Iraqi oil floods other countries. We get more Saudi oil, Europe gets more Iraqi oil. We already don't import Iranian oil, and it's not like we're suffering. That just means China sucks up Iranian oil instead of Kuwaiti oil, which then goes to us instead.

You see, it is apparently far more important to protect our (I mean, the world's, the world's) supply of crude than our manufacturing sector. It's okay to import a million tons of crap a day made in a repressive Communist nuclear-armed country aspiring to be the world's next superpower, by people in near-slave-labor conditions, but not okay to buy crude pumped and sold by a foreign oil company. A thousand shipping containers a day can come into our biggest cities from foreign countries with god-knows-what in them, they are only superficially checked by Port Security, and that's not a problem, but a French oil company pumping the crude? Never!

One day, we're going to be in another massive war for our survival, and we're going to do it with virtually zero manufacturing ability. All we'll be able to do is grow a lot of food for the war and market/advertise the war effectively, because everything else will be made in China. But don't worry, that's not a national security issue. Buying French or Russian-pumped oil is.

Reason #5: To keep the dollar alive

We all know that the dollar is backed by oil. Pretty much all oil bought and sold must be done in dollars, called 'petrodollars'. It is this fact that keeps the dollar solvent when we're 9 trillion dollars in debt. There is a much greater demand for dollars than there would be otherwise, and the entire world basically has a vested interest in keeping the dollar alive and healthy.

But the continued fiscal irresponsibility of the Republicans have made the world nervous about the future of the dollar. Increasingly, our economy is about playing financial games with money. Day trading, stocks and bonds, real estate, investments, and of course the fees for all this wonderful financial management. GM is now a lending company that makes cars as a hobby.

Adding value to natural resources with hard work? Turning raw materials into finish products? Pshaw! That's for wussies! Never mind that the US is following the same decline as other empires like the Spanish, Dutch, and British trading empires in the past few centuries. The rich are getting too wealthy and too numerous, unchecked consumerism, negative savings rates, and weak and incompetent national leadership is preventing decisive corrective action from being taken.

All of this makes worldwide investors nervous about the stability of the US dollar, and they are seeking to divest themselves of petrodollars to petroeuros. Without petrodollars, our currency and debt undergoes what can be politely called an 'adjustment'.

Iraq and Iran were making plans to go to petroeuros. With the specter of an 'adjustment' of the US dollar into fireplace fodder if the petroeuro spreads, the petrodollar had to be protected. And given the choice between invading Iran (mountainous, 90 million people, effective army and air force) or Iraq (see reason #2), you pick Iraq.

Reason #6: To keep Saudi Arabia solvent

This idea was floated by Randi Rhodes of Air America fame, and it stuck with me.

It seems that, back in the early part of this decade, the Saudi economy was in the shitter. In the prior 20 years, the annual average in come of a Saudi had fallen by something like 60%. Oil prices were fairly low for most of the 20 years, and the Saudi government was deep in debt. Of course they're not going to tax the royalty and their incomes much, so they borrowed money to stay solvent (sound familiar?)

Anyway, Saudi Arabia, as the center of Islam, also had more than its fair share of religious extremists. Fundamentalist Islamic schools, mosques, etc., and the sects that inhabit them. The fundamentalist were unhappy with the increasing Westernization of the Saudi royalty, who spends months on their multi-million-dollar yachts on the French Riviera, dressed in Western clothing, screwing underwear models, and guzzling wine and liquor. And the fundamentalists were increasingly finding poor, unhappy, angry Saudis to recruit.

With the Saudis increasingly facing the prospect of some sort of social or political revolution, they needed help. Not just because they were in bed with the Bush family, but because Saudi oil output is vital to the world economy. If the Saudis fall into chaos, NOBODY get the oil. The market does not simply adjust, as it would if the Saudis decided not to sell oil to a particular country, but it's simply off the market. <poof> Gone.

And a US invasion of Iraq would solve that problem.

The invasion would, first of all, destabilize the region and drive up oil prices, increasing the cash flow into the country. This would balance the budget, pay off the bonds, and boost the economy, helping to alleviate the social conditions. And it did, as well as making a lot of Republicans rich. According to Randi, the Saudis are now not only in the black, but have repaid their borrowed money as well.

Second, the destabilization of Iraq would, as informed experts knew, lead to Sunni-on-Shia violence as decades of grievances and centuries of religious differences (with a generous sprinkling of tribal conflicts) came to a head over the future government of Iraq. With religious violence afoot as the majority Shia in Iraq try to take assert themselves and Sunnis facing the possibility of some sort of genocide, the majority Sunnis in Saudi Arabia would naturally take up the cause of the minority Sunnis in Iraq. Saudi Sunnis would move north into Iraq to fight Iraqi Shia and relieving the Saudi royal family of the most fundamental of the religious nuts and thus the risk of a revolution.

Now, there are certain side benefits to the invasion. "See, see, we're tough on terror!" is one. Good PR is worth its weight in dead American soldiers.

Two, it makes the government spend a lot of money on the war, which is not collected through taxes but through the issue of Treasure bonds, i.e., borrowing. Now, who owns most the Treasury bonds, and thus the interest earned on them? Why rich people, of course! I think Jim Webb said that 53% of Treasure bonds are held by the top 1% of income earners. That means that 53% of the 400 billion dollars paid a year in interest goes to the top 1%, or about 200 billion dollars. 200 billion dollars spread out among 3 million people is $67,000 per rich person. And, conveniently, interest from Treasury bonds is only taxed at 15% thanks to Bush's tax cuts, so the rich gain an average of about $57,000 a year free and clear. The bottom 99%? Well, we get $673, on average, of which $573 is free and clear. Nice, huh?

Three, all that money spend on the invasions makes is just about impossible to justify non-Republican values, like the social safety net or alternative-energy research. Oh, darn.

Four, it helps keep that pesky peace dividend at bay as new equipment is purchased to replace that which is left smoldering on the battlefield and new projects to counter unforeseen problems have money thrown at them. The military-industrial complex loves that part.

I don't know if the last four reasons are why we went to war, but I do know that they are four reasons to not argue too much against it.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:12 PM
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1. Brilliantly done
Bravo!

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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:26 PM
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2. Well said.
Thank you.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:34 PM
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3. knr and thanks! ....n/t
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:35 PM
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4. I cast the 5th rec! You're on the greatest. ....n/t
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:37 PM
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5. Plugging Iraq Into Globalization
The ultimate prize in Iraq, of course, is oil, and the Bush/Cheney gang has uncoiled a vastly underreported legal and financial cord that plugs U.S corporate control into these resources at least through the year 2007. The basic wiring has two prongs and is already complete. The first part, created by the UN under US pressure is the Development Fund for Iraq which is to be controlled by the US and advised by the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Unsurprisingly, this is looking more and more like a slush fund for corporate welfare. The second is a recent Bush executive order that provides absolute legal protection for U.S. interests in Iraqi oil. And a third and final prong is being crafted to ground the whole system and get as much profit as possible out of it.

The Corporate Slush Fund for Iraq

By promising the United Nations a threadbare role in the reconstruction of Iraq, and giving the World Bank and International Monetary Fund accounting oversight, the U.S. managed to buy the world's largest multilateral institutions into an incredible deal for private U.S. interests.

On May 22, the UN Security Council unanimously adopted Resolution 1483, which ended sanctions and endorsed the creation of Development Fund for Iraq, to be overseen by a board of accountants, including UN, World Bank, and IMF representatives. It endorsed the transfer of over $1 billion (of Iraqi oil money) from the Oil-for-Food program into the Development Fund. All proceeds from the sale of Iraqi oil and natural gas are also to be placed into the fund.

The fund, controlled by U.S. viceroy Paul Bremer, has swelled to $7 billion, thanks to a $3.1 billion contribution from the U.S. Congress, and billions of dollars more in seized assets of the Iraqi government. And to who have the occupying powers pledged these riches? The UN resolution states that the fund "shall be used in a transparent manner to meet the humanitarian needs of the Iraqi people." John Negroponte, the U.S. representative at the United Nations, told reporters after the vote, "the intent is to use Iraq's resources and to dispose and dispense Iraq's resources to the benefit of the people of Iraq." That paternalism towards Iraq's people is mighty white of Ambassador Negroponte.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/globaliz/special/2003/0722iraqoil.htm
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:37 PM
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6. Wow, seven recs... I feel warm and fuzzy
Thanks you guys!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:53 PM
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7. Wow.
May I quote you to Kool-Aid-drinking relatives? Great post.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 01:03 AM
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9. Quote to your heart's content
just make sure you give me proper credit as "some guy on the DU said..."


lmao
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:26 PM
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13. Exactly!
HeeHee (I'll be sure and say, "Krispos42," to be serious.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:58 PM
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8. What was the deal-i-o with the hugh Dem support for the war
same?
SERIOUS111
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:12 AM
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10. A coherent "invade" PR campaign and a weak "peace" campaign
Let's face it: with the news services now part of the 'infotainment' world, hard quesitons were not asked. The people protesting against the war were the people you would always expect to find at an anti-war rally: anti-globalization, anti-corporation, no blood for oil, peace is the way, etc. The sort of protester that would always protest US military involvement until invaders were swarming off of LSTs and onto the beach in Virginia.

At least that was the conventional wisedom.

Facts that should have been present, weren't. Facts that should not have been present, were. Facts that should have been connected, weren't. Facts that should not have been connected, were.

Advertising works, especially if the message is hammered again and again and again and again. And if you lie big, people often times won't believe it's a lie.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:51 AM
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11. I think there were a good 20 reasons to invade Iraq. But WMD and the
danger Saddam Hussein posed to the wider world was the "closer" for those of us who fell for it. And that was a lie.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:57 PM
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12. Read your Journal and, Wow
Krispos42, I enjoyed the sh--t out of your prospective on such a wide range of issues, (I had made notes to myself to say f-ups but on review decided on "issues") declared to be facts by our govt. Lots of food for thought. It is reassuring that there are people out there, like you and so many others on this site, that "get it", and can express it so clearly with humor to boot.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:34 AM
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14. Yeah, that old-school DOS theme is kickin'!
:-) j/k

Thanks!

I had another idea for the electric/auxillary car.

For long trips, I can imagine a rental tow-behind generator, a fairly heavy-duty one capable of about forty or fifty horsepower/30-37 kilowatts. This generator would output the same kind of power the motor does, IIRC 300VDC, and be tied via a standardized cable right into the car's power grid. The tow-behind's output should be able to fully power the car while cruising at highway speeds on a reasonably level roadway.

The tow-behind would provide the motive power for limitless cruising, with the battery pack providing extra juice for acclerating and hills, as required. I envision a small, sleek, aerodynamic unit in a low (no blocking the rear view) teardrop shape with an air-cooled 2-cylinder gasoline engine, the generator, fuel tank (10 gallons or so), and, if required, some AC/DC conversion circuitry. I think it is easier to create alternating-current and convert it to direct-current instead of making DC, um, directly. No pun intended. And electric start triggered by you 'turning on' your electric/auxillary car.

The V-twin engine would be a modern dual-overhead-cam design, with fuel injection and appropriate emissions controls. Of course! I picked gasoline because that is universally available, and it has the highest energy density, so it would maximize range between fill-ups.

The nice thing is that if you do run out of fuel with the tow-behind, you still have the power in the battery and the auxillary to get you to a gas station.

Whatcha think?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 06:15 AM
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15. Excellent breakdown on the reasons for the Illegal Invasion.
It seems that most Dems in Congress agree on those, as well. If the Busholini Regime hadn't created a Fiasco most Dems would not be complaining now.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:58 PM
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17. Your plan sounds interesting and possible?
Without know anything about such ways to generate power for autos I have no idea how possible something like you described would be, but, it does sound interesting. This is what we should be concentrating on and that is alternative fuel, that's a no brainer unless you are tied to the oil industry where they want all the goodies that can get "today", the hell with tomorrow.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 06:35 AM
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18. Should be without a problem
The biggest generator Honda makes is a 20-horsepower generator that puts out about 10 kilowatts sustained power. Runs 4.4 hours on 6.9 gallons of gas at full load, 7.5 hours at half-load. 615cc two-cylinder engine.

Not sure why it costs 5 grand, though. I could buy a new engine for a car for that price, and I once bought a 4.5hp lawnmower engine for about $170.

A 40+ horsepower model should not be out of the question. Honda's Silver Wing scooters have 49-horsepower 582cc 4-valve-per-cylinder engine, and the whole scooter only weights 511 pounds empty. Use that engine tied to a 300VDC/ 100-amp generator. That's 30 kW, which is more than enough to maintain highway speeds in a car.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:48 PM
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16. this is top notch!
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 12:49 PM by leftchick
Thank You!

:)
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 06:48 AM
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19. Since I can't rec I'll reply
and damn sure do some :kick:ing
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