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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:10 PM
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HEADLINE: "Bush to skeptics: What's your Iraq plan?"
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 08:17 PM by Bluebear
Oooooh no you don't, you sociopath dry drunk besotted AWOL nomad-bombing monkey!!! I will give you the same answer as I have given to the right wing junk mail I have gotten for four years, "Democrats, instead of whining, what's YOUR plan?"--- this is YOUR war, YOU wanted it, YOU solve it or get the fuck out.

We're proposing plenty. We're proposing that there is nothing more that we can reasonably accomplish in Iraq.

Yes, it's true that your ill-conceived, ill-planned, ill-executed war has created misery for millions of people and destabilized the entire Middle East. We get that.

What you don't get is that we don't wish to keep rolling the dice with our men and our treasury when the odds of success are nil. Just so you can try to come out not looking like the utter fool you are.

Play double or nothing with your own life, not the lives of our soldiers.

(with thanks to sendero)
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WASHINGTON - President Bush on Saturday challenged lawmakers skeptical of his new Iraq plan to propose their own strategy for stopping the violence in Baghdad.

"To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible," Bush said.

In a pitch to lawmakers and the American people, Bush said the United States will keep the onus on the Iraqi government to take charge of security and reach a political reconciliation. He countered Democrats and his fellow Republicans who argue that Bush is sending 21,500 more U.S. troops into Iraq on the same mission.

"We have a new strategy with a new mission: Helping secure the population, especially in Baghdad," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "Our plan puts Iraqis in the lead.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070113/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:11 PM
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1. "I've driven us over a cliff...
... and now it's your responsibility to see that we don't crash".

No Mr. Bush, it's our responsibility to get someone else behind the wheel.

Moron.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:12 PM
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2. to figure out a way to pry your hands off of iraq! that is the plan.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:13 PM
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3. Fine there are a couple of them out there
Kucinich, Murtha. Let's try one of those George and see if they get less americans killed than yours.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:13 PM
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4. Three months ago he told the Dems to STFU, we're in charge here.
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 08:14 PM by Lastlaughin08
My, aren't we looking at things differently now, you retarded baboon.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:49 PM
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27. Yeah, I thought Dubya was "the decider."
What the hell ever happened to that?
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:15 PM
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5. He wants to know how to un-fuck his fuck-up.
How about not invading the first place, you criminally incompetent sub-idiot?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:15 PM
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6. Proposing nothing?
We're proposing plenty. We're proposing that there is nothing more that we can reasonably accomplish in Iraq.

Yes, it's true that your ill-conceived, ill-planned, ill-executed war has created misery for millions of people and destabilized the entire Middle East. We get that.

What you don't get is that we don't wish to keep rolling the dice with our men and our treasury when the odds of success are nil. Just so you can try to come out not looking like the utter fool you are.

Play double or nothing with your own life, not the lives of our soldiers.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:17 PM
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8. I hope you don't mind.
I made the OP a joint one with your powerful words included.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:21 PM
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22. Un-freaking beautiful!
Send this to all Democratic reps and Senators, have them read it into the Congressional Record and have the AM Haters express their "outrage". I double-dare 'em!
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:16 PM
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7. What part of Jack Murtha's plan
do you not understand, you feces-slinging pig-ignorant chimp?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:23 PM
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9. Listen, you arrogant sack of shit, there are plans out there, but
you won't listen to them, or give them any consideration, because you're "The Decider". You have fucked things up so badly that all your other fuck ups must have been dress rehersals. How dare you, you pompous fucking asshole?

Here's MY plan: GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AND TAKE CHENEY, CONDI AND THE OTHER CROOKS AND LIARS WITH YOU. The Iraqi's want their country back, and we Americans want OUR country back.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:27 PM
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10. YOU, sir, are the bull in the china shop...
It is not OUR responsibility to follow your stupid ass with a tube of superglue.
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:27 PM
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11. Here is my plan
OUT NOW

Would that work for the Idiot Child?
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:30 PM
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23. You stole my answer!
Were you peeking at my laptop? ;)

:hi:
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 01:37 PM
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32. :) n/t
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:31 PM
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12. Kerry/Feingold
Excerpts of S.2766 introduced in the United States Senate on June 21, 2006
Purpose: To require the redeployment of United States Armed Forces from Iraq in order to further a political solution in Iraq, encourage the people of Iraq to provide for their own security, and achieve victory in the war on terror.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES--109th Cong., 2nd Sess.

S.2766

SEC. 1084 UNITED STATES POLICY ON IRAQ.

(a) REDEPLOYMENT OF TROOPS FROM IRAQ.--


(1) SCHEDULE FOR REDEPLOYMENT. -- For purposes of strengthening the national security of the United States, the President shall redeploy, commencing immediately, United States forces from Iraq by July 1, 2007, in accordance with a schedule coordinated with the Government of Iraq, leaving only the minimal number of forces that are critical to completing the mission of standing up Iraqi security forces, conducting targeted and specialized counterterrorism operations, and protecting United States facilities and personnel.

(2) CONSULTATION WITH CONGRESS REQUIRED. -- The President shall consult with Congress regarding the schedule for redeployment and shall submit such schedule to Congress as part of the report required under subsection (c).

(3) MAINTENANCE OF OVER-THE-HORIZON TROOP PRESENCE. -- The President should maintain an over-the-horizon troop presence to prosecute the war on terror and protect regional security interests.


(b) IRAQ SUMMIT.--The President should work with leaders of the Government of Iraq to convene a summit as soon as possible that includes these leaders, leaders of the governments of each country bordering Iraq, representatives of the Arab League, the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, representatives of the European Union, and leaders of the governments of each permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, for the purpose of reaching a comprehensive political agreement for Iraq that engenders the support of Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds by ensuring the equitable distribution of oil revenues, disbanding the militias, strengthening internal security, reviving reconstruction efforts and fulfilling related international economic aid commitments, securing Iraq's borders, and providing for a sustainable federalist structure in Iraq.

(c) REPORT ON REDEPLOYMENT.--


(1) REPORT REQUIRED.--Not later than 30 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall, in consultation with the Secretary of State, submit to Congress a report that sets forth the strategy for the redeployment of United States forces from Iraq by July 1, 2007.



http://www.johnkerry.com/news/articles/newsarticle.html?id=11
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:44 PM
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17. K&R
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:34 PM
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13. Kucinich has a plan. Murtha has a plan. Feingold has a plan.
Kerry has a plan. I believe Edwards has a plan too. Clark has a plan. Heck at this point I do believe Senator Clinton has a plan. I personally like Kucinich's plan the best, as it is closest to my secret plan for victory in Iraq: GTFO.

I'd tell you what GTFO stands for, but it is top secret and I'd have to kill you.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:34 PM
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14. I like the Tom Tomorrow reply >
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 08:35 PM by Stephanie


What's my plan? Well, why don't we take the trillions of dollars we're spending and build a TIME MACHINE, and why don't we use that machine to go back to 2003, when MILLIONS of people like ME who OPPOSED THIS WAR were SCREAMING OUR HEADS off trying to STOP IT. And why don't people like YOU LISTEN TO US and NOT INVADE IN THE FIRST PLACE. That's MY plan. What's YOURS?

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:39 PM
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15. He's not allowed to lose
it's written in the Wasp-o-cratic charter whose rights accrued to him at birth.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:42 PM
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16. After he has ...
f--ked up everything and wouldn't listen to Dems for the past sic years, and kept them out of the secret meetings now he wants to say what is our plan. If he would have listened in the first place the situation wouldn't have been as bad as it is.


I remember time after time when Biden would show up on the Sunday talk shows over the years and he would say that time is running out and that we need to change the strategy and Bush and his minions kept on spouting STAY THE COURSE. Now they try to pretend as though they are changing because they thought of it,if they had won the election I would they continue on the stay the course garbage...
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:47 PM
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18. my plan would be very simple
a new commander in chief
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:47 PM
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19. after ten years of "planning," six years in office and four years in Iraq
we're all still trying to figure out what the hell king george's plan is.


what a worthless asshole.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:48 PM
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20. In a different life I was asked something akin to this (writ very small). I replied that
I have enough work fixing the problems I cause, so I wasn't tackling those caused by others.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:49 PM
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21. Irresponsible?? Are you kidding me?
Irresponsible is being in Iraq in the fist place, not to mention the subsequent decisions that followed.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:31 PM
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24. They keep saying Dems have no plan... despite all the plans!
I recall that Repugnant cross-eyed Ron Christie going on about how the Dems have no plan. Tweety said, "What about Murtha's plan?" Christie says, "Oh, that's just cut-and-run." Tweety said, "What about so-and-so's plan?" Christie said, "Like I said, the Dems have no CREDIBLE plan for victory."

BushCo is the one who opposes everything and proposes nothing new.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:47 PM
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25. I have to chuckle at dimson calling ANYONE irresponsible. nt
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:48 PM
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26. yeah, like he'd listen.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:58 PM
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28. Impeach your ass
Then some indictments and then maybe send you and Cheney off to Abu Graihb.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:02 PM
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29. Critics' answer - "We didn't invade, asshat."
"Oops, sorry - make that 'President Asshat.'"
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:06 PM
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30. "More" is not a plan. Period.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 10:24 PM
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31. Shows how desperate Bush has become....
Bush knows he is defeated. He knows his "plan" won't work. In desperation he asks us if we have a better plan.

In a word: yes!

A better plan would have been not to go to war in the first place unless it was the absolute last resort.

A better plan would have been not to endanger our troops and send them into harm's way without a clear mission for success, without logistical support, without a clear definition of what victory was, and without an exit strategy.

A better plan would have been not to go to war based on a lie, not to embolden our enemies and anger our friends.

A better plan would have been to not squander the "capital" we had after 9/11, when the whole world sympathized with us, on a Mission Impossible that damaged our credibility in the world's eyes.

But that was then, and this is now.

A better plan would be to work with the other nations in the region to help solve this problem on a regional basis....countries that Bush is even this week threatening instead of consulting.

A better plan would be to encourage the Iraqis to come to their own defense instead of enabling them all the more with more troops as backup. I mean, if we have to send more troops there, couldn't we at least "match" the additional troops Iraq is able to muster instead of sending them anyway? How about sending one additional troop for every four additional Iraqi troops? That way 20,000 American troops would lead to 100,000 additional total troops? Or, more likely, fewer American troops since the Iraqis won't come through with that many more.

Or, as pointed out above, a better plan would be a phased withdrawal of US troops out of the region.

Iraq cannot be won. The only question is how do we get out of the mess Bush got us into with the least chaos.

Bush has been presented many plans.

In his talk today Bush demonstrates what got us into this mess....it is Bush's responsibility to make a plan and he just looking who to blame.

George, where is YOUR PLAN?

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