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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 02:50 PM
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Micheal Leeden is yet another chickenhawk little Eichman
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTYxZDcxMzkzNzhiMzFkNTAwMzkxNjE0Y2FkNmM0MTE=

The Surge and its Critics
Michael Ledeen, National Review


We’ve got lots of soldiers sitting on megabases all over Iraq. They should be out and about, some of them embedded, others just moving around, tracking the terrorists, hunting them down. I don’t know how many guys and gals are sitting in air-conditioned quarters and drinking designer coffee, but it’s a substantial number. Enough of that.


Damn right, "Enough of that".

How dare you, sir! How dare you sit your fat ass in front of a keyboard in your comfy office and criticize people who put their lives on the line EVERY DAY, because warmongering neo-fascists like you, elected a tin-plated, overbearing dictator with delusions of godhood!

You have the unmitigated gall to mock men and women who face the real possibility of death and dismemberment every minute of every day, all for the princely sum of about $8 an hour. Meanwhile, you pull down a six figure salary, paid for by dickless war profiteers from money steeped in the blood of thoe very same soldiers you sneer at.

Sir, pray we never meet. For while I am a pacifist, I am not militant about it. Sometimes, there are some people who should be slapped silly.

If you love this war so much and feel that it just isn't being prosecuted to your satisfaction, then get your chickenshit ass down to a recruiter and enlist. They'll take anyone these days, even bloviating, smegma-for-brains, dipshits like you.

But wait, our fecal-faced felcher isn't through with this. Now he wants to tell us how the war SHOULD be run.

And the only way to demonstrate a will to win is to go after the Iranians and the Syrians, as well as the terrorists already inside Iraq. God knows the evidence of Syrian involvement is overwhelming, and the latest information reportedly shows they are on both sides of the Sunni/Shiite divide. If we continue to blither ineffectually about how “unhelpful” the mullahs and the Assads are, everyone in those parts will understand that we do not yet have the will to win this war.


What do you mean by "we" don't have the will to win the war? There is no "WE", there are soldiers fighting the actual war, and there are spineless little meglomaniacs life you.

If we do not tackle Syria, we will simply provide the terrorists with more targets. If we do go after them, we may yet win this thing. As luck would have it, this is the ideal moment to go after the Iranians, since their supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, is either dead or dying, and a vicious internal power struggle is under way in Tehran. We should propose a better solution to the Iranian people: revolution, leading to their freedom. That would require the president and the secretary of State to call for regime change in Iran and Syria, something from which they have always retreated in the past.

But if we want to win, that’s the first step. Anybody ready?


What kind of deranged psycopath are you when you deride Bush and his merry band of war criminals for not killing enough people?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 02:54 PM
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1. Michael Ledeen was behind the fake Niger documents -
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 02:55 PM by sparosnare
he IS a deranged psychopath, just like all the other PNACers. They do not care about human lives, whether it be American troops or anyone else - the end always justifies the means with them. They do not care about the United States of America or its laws and Constitution. Their only objective is to use our military as a means to gain power in the middle east, so they can stuff more money in their pockets like the greedy corporatists they are. They have convinced Bush to go along with their plan, because it feeds his ego and he's too stupid to know any better.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 02:59 PM
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3. And he continues to repeate the same lies
we've discredited many times: Syria is behind the attacks in Iraq. The Iranian leader is dead or dying.

I think we should be sure this column gets sent to every soldier and/or soldier's family we know.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 02:54 PM
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2. The Time May Have Come - The Iran We Cannot Avoid - Michael Ledeen
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:01 PM
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4. "sitting in air-conditioned quarters and drinking designer coffee..."
Sounds like he's describing his daughters job with the CPA.


In Iraq, the Job Opportunity of a Lifetime

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48543-2004May22.html

Managing a $13 Billion Budget With No Experience

<snip>

"It was after nightfall when they finally found their offices at Saddam Hussein's Republican Palace -- 11 jet-lagged, sweaty, idealistic volunteers who had come to help Iraq along the road to democracy.

When the U.S. government went looking for people to help rebuild Iraq, they had responded to the call. They supported the war effort and President Bush. Many had strong Republican credentials. They were in their twenties or early thirties and had no foreign service experience. On that first day, Oct. 1, they knew so little about how things worked that they waited hours at the airport for a ride that was never coming. They finally discovered the shuttle bus out of the airport but got off at the wrong stop.

Occupied Iraq was just as Simone Ledeen had imagined -- ornate mosques, soldiers in formation, sand blowing everywhere, "just like on TV." The 28-year-old daughter of neoconservative pundit Michael Ledeen and a recently minted MBA, she had arrived on a military transport plane with the others and was eager to get to work.

They had been hired to perform a low-level task: collecting and organizing statistics, surveys and wish lists from the Iraqi ministries for a report that would be presented to potential donors at the end of the month. But as suicide bombs and rocket attacks became almost daily occurrences, more and more senior staffers defected. In short order, six of the new young hires found themselves managing the country's $13 billion budget, making decisions affecting millions of Iraqis.

Viewed from the outside, their experience illustrates many of the problems that have beset the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), a paucity of experienced applicants, a high turnover rate, bureaucracy, partisanship and turf wars. But within their group, inside the "Green Zone," the four-mile strip surrounded by cement blast walls where Iraq's temporary rulers are based, their seven months at the CPA was the experience of a lifetime. It was defined by long hours, patriotism, friendship, sacrifice and loss."

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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:20 PM
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8. Thanks for the tip
I'll add that to my blog post.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 04:21 PM
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11. No problem.
:thumbsup:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:07 PM
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5. Silly Little Monkey Throwing Shit
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 03:25 PM by Binka
What a motherfucking ass carrot he is. The troops are sitting in "air-conditioned quarters and drinking designer coffee." He really hates our troops doesn't he? Mister fat ass keyboard warrior. As the mother of an Iraqi war (horribly injured) vet, I say this shameless cowardly BASTARD should just go drive his fucking car off a bridge.

CHICKEN-HAWK MOTHERFUCKING VAMPIRE. Hey Fuck head did my son get this sitting around drinking coffee?

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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:18 PM
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7. I am so sorry your son was
involved in this. I am sorry he was hurt because grown men can only act like selfish, self-absorbed little children.

You notice that NRO doesn't allow comments?

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:23 PM
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9. He Is Going Back To Iraq In March
Guess that little scratch doesn't matter. :cry:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:36 PM
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10. Geezus, Binka!! I knew it was terrible but had never seen the pic
until now. What's the latest news on your son? How is he doing?

Bake
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 03:12 PM
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6. Ledeen on Somalia
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 03:14 PM by seemslikeadream
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWI0ZmY2ZWI2ZWFmNTE4MDgwNGEyNDNkYjZkMzRmM2M=

It would be far nicer to see some real action from this administration. For starters, the president and the secretary of state should finally educate the American public about the real dimensions of the Iranian threat:

Somalia, where the Iranian-backed “Islamic courts” have seized a large part of the country and imposed the usual medieval methods made infamous in Taliban-ruled Afghanistan. Notice the (Shiite) support for these Sunni fascists






http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg042302.asp
For example, when the United States pulled out of Somalia after the "Black Hawk Down" incident, we saw it as the tragic consequence of a feckless foreign policy and little more. "They don't want our help, screw 'em," was how most Americans understandably regarded the episode. In the Middle East, however, the lesson was that Americans are weak and easily frightened away. This was partly because — if Osama bin Laden's own words are to be believed — Muslim ideologues were incapable of believing that the United States' motives were altruistic: as if we were keen on making Somalia, which measures per capita income in fractions of a goat, the 51st state of America, or maybe a U.S. territory like the Virgin Islands. Stop laughing. I'm serious.

Indeed, perceived American weakness in Somalia not only invited further al Qaeda attacks on the United States, but emboldened Israel's enemies too. "The Israelis are just like the Americans," reasoned Palestinian militants, "they can be scared away" (this lesson was further intensified when Israel voluntarily withdrew from Lebanon two years ago, a move widely interpreted as an Israeli capitulation — which makes sense, since Arab propaganda says Israel is implacably imperialist and hence incapable of giving up land for benign reasons). It seems obvious, to me at least, that the destruction of Israel — be it slow or fast — would be perceived as further dissolution of the American Empire. So, as a matter of cold political calculation, avoiding war now would only delay the inevitable, leaving Israel at the mercy of states dedicated to its death (or at least its constant insecurity). In short, the destruction of Israel would launch the next war, it would not avert it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 04:38 PM
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12. What percentage of Neocons...
What percentage of Neocons were sitting in climate-controlled offices sipping designer coffee while they read this article?

I'm guessing close to 100%?
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:04 PM
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13. You would be right
All these able-bodied alpha males can't seem to find the recruiter.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 06:24 PM
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14. "Little Eichman", what ever
happened to Ward Churchill? Did he lose his teaching job?
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