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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:23 AM
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OMG!!!!!!!!! Bush to Acknowledge Mistakes in Iraq
Bush to Acknowledge Mistakes in Iraq
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2783842
By JENNIFER LOVEN

WASHINGTON Jan 10, 2007 (AP)— President Bush will tell the nation Wednesday night he will send more than 20,000 additional American forces to Iraq, acknowledging that it had been a mistake earlier not to have more American and Iraqi troops fighting the war, a senior administration official said.

Seeking support for a retooled strategy to win support for the unpopular war, the president also will acknowledge that the rules of engagement were flawed, White House counselor Dan Bartlett said.


For a little over 20 minutes Wednesday night, Bush is to explain why a gradual buildup of about 20,000 additional U.S. troops, along with other steps expected to include pumping $1 billion into Iraq's economy, is the answer for a more than 31/2-year-old war that has only gotten deadlier with no end in sight
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:26 AM
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1. I won't believe it till he says it. Anyways 20k more troops won't do shit
they needed 500k troops from the start.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:26 AM
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2. Big whoop. When is he going to acknowledge
that it was a mistake to invade Iraq in the first place?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:26 AM
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3. acknowledges mistakes but places no blame on himself
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 10:02 AM by alyce douglas
what a weasel of a man, sorry to insult weasels, too little, 3,003 to late George, go F yourself.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:26 AM
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4. Of course he will
I made the mistake of trusting others and that's why we're still stuck in Irag. None of it was my fault, none of it Waaaaaah!

That stinking putz, I refuse to watch him stumble around in his broken English anymore. I really look forward to the day when he is finally totally irrelevant.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:27 AM
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5. His mistake was not to send more fodder for his war machine? I've
now seen everything. That isn't the mistake he should be acknowledging.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:27 AM
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6. The mistake was the war
and anyway I doubt he'll actually use the word "mistake", when there are so many wonderful euphemisms available!

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/690908
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:30 AM
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7. What was the number of initial troops? And 3,000 is what
%age of that? And the %ages of those maimed for life? And now, he expects an additional 20,000 because he made mistakes? HE F-ing LIED! Since when is a LIE a TACTICAL MISTAKE? Lies are intentional. And his were criminal!
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:42 AM
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14. aren't texans known for b.s.

Well "bush" certainly qualifies as a bullshitter,therefore he must be a texan.
My daddy said if you can't say nothing nice about an asshole;then hit him with a brick!
anything this fool does is a mistake waiting to happen!
UNDOUBTEDLY THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER TO SERVE ! A FAILURE IN BUSINESS, A FAILURE IN POLITICS
A FAILURE AS A LEADER,THIS IS THE LEGACY HE WILL CARRY FOR ETERNITY!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:47 AM
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16. I so agree! And now he is more willing to sacrifice MORE LIVES
than to admit "defeat" in his presidency! Like any personal failure is worse than a single human life? And how could he possibly fail more than he already has? He simply disgusts and revolts me and I wish that I were within 'brick-throwing' range!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:35 AM
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8. Watch the use of passive words like "mistakes 'were' made"
thus attempting to make it appear that it was some unnamed group or person making the mistakes, but certainly not him.

I can't listen to this dimwitted cretin, so I will watch posts here tonight on what he says
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:37 AM
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11. YOu swoooo beat me to it! He will blame blame blame then ask for more of same.
Drunks are so freaking predictable.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:05 AM
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24. me too, I will catch the commentary here, and I give DU'ers
who do watch my utmost admiration to watch this torturer and murderer.
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I_Will Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:36 AM
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9. He'll have no problem acknowledging others' "mistakes"....
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:37 AM
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10. I'll wait to hear it before I believe it
sounds like projection messaging. Make people think he said he's acknowledged mistakes but not actually say it in the speech. Or it'll be said so obtusely that a year's long debate will ensue on if or how he actually acknowledged any mistakes.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:38 AM
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12. He is the mistake. Maybe America's fatal one.
The constitution seems mortally wounded and the 4th estate is missing.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:39 AM
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13. "mistakes" (boohiss!!!) They're called crimes...crimes.
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:46 AM
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15. Acknowledge or Admit?
Oh, he'll acknowledge, but you can bet your sweet ass he won't admit to making them him self. :rofl:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:48 AM
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17. Implying, of course, that more troops now is the right thing to do.
War pig.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:54 AM
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18. Did you hear that guy on Hardball yesterday say that * didn't make any mistakes, he
didn't do anything wrong, he just 'learned a few lessons in Iraq.'



:puke:



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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:08 AM
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28. what he has learned lessons?? what a fucking asshole he is
to put more troops in and have them go through a meat grinder, what a coward he is.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:34 AM
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32. I hope Matthews or (if there) the Dem nailed them on that!
I mean, can we point to anything about Iraq where they have been correct?

I mean, how many times have we turned the corner? How many times has a BIG EVENT (fall of Baghdad, capture of Saddam, elections, constitution, etc) supposedly been the turning point? How many new strategies have we tried to stop the violence and civil war?

Oh, and how many reasons have we had for going into Iraq? WMD? Then, WMD programs? Then, could have developed WMD programs? Then, Saddam was a bad boy? Then, a few more reasons, then because we don't want somebody bad controlling Iraq's oil...

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:06 AM
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36. when you are driving around in circles
everything is a turning point
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:56 AM
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19. "Mistakes were made" but not, surely, by the Dauphin!
the passive voice will be rampant in the speech.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:57 AM
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20. The "mistakes" will turn into the word misinterpret or underestimated
and will probably fall squarely into Rummy's or the generals no longer serving in command positions.

Tactical oversight, blah blah blah get out the Thesaurus because his speech writers certainly have.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 09:57 AM
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21. Will he raise the dead that died for his mistakes? Months from now he will be able to say this again
Sorry bout the dead bodies folks, my bad.
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:04 AM
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35. No
but if he asks Pat Robertson real nice perhaps he might.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:00 AM
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22. BFD: It's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
Bush: "Sorry - my bad. Can I get a do-over?"

mikey_the_rat
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:00 AM
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23. "Oops" doesn't get it.
"Oops" doesn't bring back 3000+ American lives lost.

"Oops" doesn't mend all of those broken minds and bodies.

"Oops" doesn't alleviate the pain and misery visited upon the Iraqi people.

"Oops" doesn't make waging the Iraq war a good idea, nor a legally justifiable.

"Oops" is not a substitute for a heartfelt apology for your inept and immoral behavior.

"Oops" doesn't make your proposed solution any more viable.


"Oops" DOES mean that your Administration is badly in need of "Adult Supervision"


I like that:

The Bush Adminstration*

* Adult Supervision Required


P.S. It is going to be all I can do, to stomach watching him tonight.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:06 AM
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25. I have been thinking about this whole situation lately...
and I have come to the conclusion that if he sent 100,000 troops into Iraq, it would not do squat.


The Iraqi's will do nothing for themselves as long as American blood is spilled and not their own. The "insurgents" will retreat for the time being, any chance of an additional 20,000 boots on the ground having any impact is lost because it took this idiot to long to be "the decider". the possibility of dealing with this situation and having a positive outcome in the way bush is looking at this is nil.

Pushing MORE $ into an oil rich nation is just as ridiculous. This is American taxpayer money, and the wealthy sure aren't giving anything up after their tax cuts. Why put an ADDITIONAL billion into a society that is bleeding us dry already?

Once again, this will prove to be another failed bush policy, just like everything else this moron has attempted. More soldiers will be killed, yet somehow, this man thinks that more boots on the ground will turn the tide.

There are two things that can happen to expedite the removal of American forces: Catch, or prove bin-Laden is dead; make the Iraqi's stand up for themselves.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:07 AM
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26. Will he acknowledge his biggest mistake? Going to war!!! nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:07 AM
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27. And in the "passive" tense of course. Mistakes were made
Misinfomation was transmitted..
Misunderstandings happened.

He will NOT say..

"Hey I screwed up, and I am so sorry."
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:08 AM
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29. 'mistakes' by the Generals maybe
he will NEVER take responsability
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:15 AM
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30. never, he believes in his own sick head he is doing the right thing
little does he know how wrong he is, and saying "F you" to every one of us.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:25 AM
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31. $1 Billion more for Halliburton and other Repug contractors
:grr:
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:43 AM
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33. When is he gonna admit he lied us into this war?
Never, but it would be the truth.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:49 AM
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34. If anything, Bush will attempt to INSTILL MORE FEAR in his "reason"
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 10:52 AM by WinkyDink
for adding troops.

"Based on the intelligence we had at the time, and on the best advice, I sent troops to Iraq in 2003 to combat the terrorist network there. And we were successful, and allowed for a democratically-elected government to be installed. At that point, insurgents hostile to freedom and democracy started attacking American soldiers, kidnapping Re-construction workers, and murdering their fellow Iraqis.
We cannot leave before our job is done, the job of making Iraq a model for Middle Eastern democracy, where folks can worship in freedom, men and women can work in freedom, and where children can learn in freedom.
The forces hostile to such values and ideals are in the minority. But they live among the majority.
That is why I'm here tonight to announce that I will be sending an additional 20,000 troops to Iraq to root out these terrorists neighborhood by neighborhood, street by street, and house by house. I am confident that our brave men and women will complete this mission successfully.
A free Iraq means a safer America.

God bless you, God bless our troops, and God bless America."
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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:12 AM
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37. Somewhere, Shinseki is shaking his head
(from 2003)

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/consequences/2003/0228pentagoncontra.htm

"In a contentious exchange over the costs of war with Iraq, the Pentagon's second-ranking official today disparaged a top Army general's assessment of the number of troops needed to secure postwar Iraq. House Democrats then accused the Pentagon official, Paul D. Wolfowitz, of concealing internal administration estimates on the cost of fighting and rebuilding the country.

Mr. Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary, opened a two-front war of words on Capitol Hill, calling the recent estimate by Gen. Eric K. Shinseki of the Army that several hundred thousand troops would be needed in postwar Iraq, "wildly off the mark." Pentagon officials have put the figure closer to 100,000 troops. Mr. Wolfowitz then dismissed articles in several newspapers this week asserting that Pentagon budget specialists put the cost of war and reconstruction at $60 billion to $95 billion in this fiscal year. He said it was impossible to predict accurately a war's duration, its destruction and the extent of rebuilding afterward."
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:13 AM
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38. Bush is evil and corrupt and anything he does is evil and corrupt
Why nitpick the details?

Just say no.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:15 AM
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39. Don't hold your breath for him to say he made mistakes
My guess is he's going to say something along the lines of "lessons learned" and blame the outgoing people for those mistakes. Then he's going to take credit for replacing those people with NEW people who have 'competence and proven ability' to take those 'lessons learned' and bring success toward an Iraqi government that can 'sustain, govern, and defend itself'...blah blah blah

Democracy is one word that will be used sparingly, if at all.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 05:08 PM
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40. What's the exit plan?
Do we nationalize oil in order to keep the appearance that this isn't a ploy for the oil company to improve their market share on resources?

How long does he plan to stay in Iraq?

Bush shouldn't show his face in public until he answers those questions.
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