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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:24 AM
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NOT THE ONION! A faith based fashion website" "celebration of grace and virtue
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:27 AM
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1. looks to me like it's just another nut trying to make a buck off god
nt
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:33 AM
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2. check out their "Modesty Guidelines"
:rofl:

Fashion Show Clothing Guidelines
REMEMBER: This is NOT just a Fashion Show, and we are not just simply fashion models, we are ROLE MODELS!

Our goal is to show the public that it is possible to be stylish, cute, and MODEST!
All styles should flatter your figure, but not draw extreme attention to any certain area.

Shirts
the neck line should be no lower than 4 fingers below collar bone
no very thin or sheer material
may not be too tight in the bust area
should not allow the shape of bra to be seen in the back (if you can it's too tight)
can not be spandex or very tight shirts
the backs should be modest i.e.: no strappy backs, halter or missing backs -- Tank tops should not be modeled without a shirt, jacket, or sweater over them

Pants
should not be too tight, especially in the seat or the thigh area
should fit well, but not be "skin-tight", one should be able to pull them away from the leg
shorts should be modest- no very short and/or tight shorts; if you put your arms down straight at the side, and the bottom of the shorts is higher than your longest finger, then the shorts are too short. (Remember, we will be on an elevated runway and everything will look a bit shorter to the audience.)
take care to make sure there are no "panty lines" on stage. If necessary, wear pantyhose or a "thigh shaper" to hold everything in and create a smooth appearance in your clothing.

Skirts and Dresses
can not be very tight fitting (follow shirt guidelines)
should not have too thin of material and if needed a slip should be worn.
can be no shorter that 4 fingers above the top of the kneecap.
Dresses
must have a modest neck line (no lower than 4 fingers below collar bone)
no thin straps (such as spaghetti straps)
if necessary a dress with straps two fingers wide may be worn, if the whole dress is very modest...and no bra straps can be showing, but must be worn!
Final Notes
Undergarments should never become outer-garments, no exposed bra straps etc.

More Pure Fashion Guidelines
When buying clothes and dressing to express your dignity as a classy young lady:

Remember that first impressions are important. People who never get to speak to you or listen to you can still see you. How do you want them to remember you?
Remember that you live in many different positions, even if you are not in yoga class! You sit, stand, lean over, climb up stairs with people behind you, and sit at tables facing speakers, bosses or teachers. How do your clothes or lack of clothes appear to the people who are next to you, above you and below you in all your daily positions?
Blouses and shirts that are too loose can be as immodest as tight ones. If the neckline droops from your body when you bend over, guess what everyone can see? The body parts that your blouse was designed to cover! If the armpit is too loose, think about the view of the guy standing next to you - right to the inside!
Blouses that button sometimes have see through gaps between the buttons, so consider if there is a side view to the inside, this may not be the blouse to buy or wear. Or is it too tight and comes unbuttoned easily? You may need to wear a full slip or tank top underneath.
Lift your arms up over your head when you look in the mirror. Does your back or belly show? If so, you need a longer look or a layer underneath.
If you wear a skirt that is too short and go up stairs at work, church or school, guess what shows to the people behind you on the stairs? Then what else happens when you sit down? The skirt rides up and your upper thighs are exposed, or worse yet, your underwear can be seen.
Many of today's V-necks have plunged to all new "lows"! They can even become more revealing when worn by short or medium height girls. Layer your tops so that your private parts remain private.
If it is summer and you are wearing lightweight clothing, make sure that your undergarments are doing their job protecting your modesty. Try an extra lined bra for the months that it is too warm to dress in layers. If you wear light colored pants, how thick is the fabric and how loose are they? How solid is your underwear? Also, choose a bra that has a little padding to help disguise you when you are cold
Let your clothes be an advertisement of your dignity as a young lady. Be careful about dressing "grungy" even if it is modest. Typically, how you dress and how you act will correspond. If you're dressed "sloppily", you're more likely to act "sloppily". If you're dressed like a young lady, you're more likely to act like a young lady.
Finally, walk, stand and sit with dignity. Think of yourself as a person who deserves respect. Ask for it by the way you dress.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:41 AM
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4. Actaully I find that very reasonable compared to the sites that dress all the
females like "Little House on the Prairie".
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:53 AM
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6. I agree with you, the fashions are nice for young females...
and is a good alternative to many I see in the stores.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:52 PM
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33. I didn't see anything funny about the clothes, either.
I have no problem with some modesty. I think modesty is very sexy, actually.

The only problem I had with the whole site was the stupid song.
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:48 AM
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8. Yeah, you should read the crap they have over @ Liberty U's site...
I'd link to it, but I can't go to that site sober...lol
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:44 PM
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12. I think so too
In fact, when I clicked on the link, I fully expected to see polygamist-wear, or those long-sleeved, knee length bathing suits.

This site seems to be aimed at teens, and given that, I think it's reasonable.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:52 PM
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18. I always feel so bad for parents at prom time
When I was in high school, we had those Jessica McClinton/Gunne Sax dresses to wear for dances. They were pretty and lacy, and modest. I've seen the slutty dresses they market to teens these days, and I feel very badly for the parents who have to balance what is in style with what is appropriate for a 16 year old girl to wear.

Girls under 18 should not be allowed to wear (to a dance or to school):

1. Strapless gowns
2. Skirts that hike over mid-thigh level
3. Anything that reveals cleavage or bellies.
4. A "little black dress".
5. Clothing or accessories that have sexually inappropriate messages ("Boy toy", "Hottie", and so forth)

Mind you, I'm talking about for school/work/dances/church. What kids wear to the beach, of course, is a different matter.

Boys should not be allowed to wear their pants so low that their ass is hanging out. That's a nasty look that needs to go.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:31 PM
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20. what's wrong with wearing a little black dress to a school dance?
Just so long as it isn't too little, what's the problem?

When I was in high school, we had those Jessica McClinton/Gunne Sax dresses to wear for dances. They were pretty and lacy, and modest.


You mean the ones that make you look like an extra from Gone With the Wind?

Well, I still think the little black dress is better.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:35 PM
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29. Explain to me why strapless gowns are distasteful
I can see why all of the other clothing you've mentioned could be considered distasteful. The strapless dress thing, I've never understood though. There are dresses with straps that seem far more revealing to me than some without straps. I've never understood the problem.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:11 PM
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35. Yeah, I wore Gunnes too. And I got a Jessica McClintock dress for my
weding gown. It was cotton, which is not a material you often find wedding dresses in.
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MurryMom Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:38 AM
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3. Sponsored by "Regnum Christi"
This appears to be a Roman Catholic sponsored outfit.  I would
not mind having my daughter associated with it, if interested.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:43 AM
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5. Hey Paris, hey Britney, listen up:
"Think of yourself as a person who deserves respect. Ask for it by the way you dress."

"Dress," I note, being a subset of "behave."

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SteveC Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:47 AM
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7. Hey Paris, hey Britney, listen up:
""Dress," I note, being a subset of "behave.""

In an ideal world, there is nothing to rebel against.

Paris and Britney are just publicity whores. That is not reflected in their clothes (or lack thereof) anyway.
Clothing and behavior follow understanding, not vice-versa.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:57 AM
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9. I think those rules are pretty reasonable. Similar to what any woman needs to know for work wear.
The clothes they're showing are pretty and modern, not shapeless sacks. I wouldn't wear them (everything looks to be waaaaaaaaaaaay to bright, floral and girly for my taste) but there's nothing at all wrong with them. My one complaint is that in teaching teens to dress well, somebody really needs to focus on casual clothing because that seems to be the problem area for young women, dressing down without looking like a streetwalker or a bum.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:10 PM
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10. I love the 'Kim Possible' look of pedal pushers and little baby doll tees.
Not for me, obviously. But for the girls on my cheer team. They look adorable in outfits like that.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:40 PM
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17. totally agree
I work with quite a few young women in their twenties and thirties who are smart and capable, but they're clueless about what to wear to work. We're a graphics company, so dress is casual. But not casual enough to accept pajama pants, baby-Ts showing midriffs, and micro-minis.
We're visual people. And what do we see on TV as role models? The women of CSI show major cleavage, midriffs, and painted on jeans. At work. And so do many other shows. Who can blame them? People want to look at sexy women. However, the working women out there, particularly the younger ones, have no role models anymore for what to wear to work. Their teachers -- from elementary through college -- often wore similar clothes as the sexy mamas on TV. That's why they're clueless. They have no visual guidelines. Take at look at the Faux News women...they wear more makeup than actresses playing prostitutes. And show more skin.
So. I don't really fault these young women too much. They're just dressing like the women they see who are successful.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 12:15 PM
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11. I want to know if they use clothing made in sweatshops and by
young girls who are virtually enslaved, often sexually abused, etc. I tried to use the email form to ask these questions, but it didn't function. If they are going to sell based on religious principles, then I hope they are consistent.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:43 PM
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25. good question
Modesty is one virtue; fairness is another. While the clothes at this place do look WAY better than the hookerish outfits you see on TV, I hope the people who run this site don't do business with manufacturers who use child labor (or engage in other abusive practices).
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:06 PM
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34. I don't know that my clothes aren't made that way.
Even the items which say "Made in the USA" may be made in a sweatshop in the Marianas Islands.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:16 PM
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13. Gotta keep those young women under control!
I don't see the section that tells the guys that if we can see their balls in their pants that they are just too tight. Oh well...
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:24 PM
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14. Current Womens' Fashions SUCK! Who Can Blame Them?
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 01:31 PM by Crisco
Okay, I went and scrolled through their images, and someone's got bad taste, but a few aren't so bad. Their biggest problem is the same many Christian organizations have when they try to spill over into the arts - not enough focus on art.

A few weeks ago, I went to Macy's and Victoria's Secret, looking for a simple silk chemise. Couldn't find any. Not even *one.* Plenty of polyester to be had. (At the same time, Victoria's Secret had several racks of what could best be described as Summer Camp pajamas, stuff you'd expect to see in co-ed dorms).

The reason for this? The good textiles are being used for underwear that's currently being worn as *outer*wear. Slip dresses, camisoles, etc. Stuff that, if you wear it out is going to get trashed by pollution and circumstance, and, within a very short space of time, that once-pretty pretty camisole looks like - sorry - slutwear.

My most liberal friends are looking at what high school girls are currently wearing, and cringing at the thought, as their daughters enter puberty.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:37 PM
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22. It's a bummer when your choices are Britney or Fundamentalism.
I was reading a book by Clotaire Rapaille the other day, who said, "If I'm ever reincarnated, I hope I don't come back as an American woman."
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:49 PM
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32. Yes, Exactly
I've nothing against flaunting it when the occasion calls for it, but it seems like the under 30 crowd has no understanding of "occasion."
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:29 PM
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15. Wonder what Betty Bowers has to say about this?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:35 PM
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16. Argh...you didn't mention it had music
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 01:36 PM by Der Blaue Engel
x(

edited to add: I'm at work, and just serenaded everyone in the surrounding cubicles
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 01:57 PM
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19. 4. That virtue is the most important must have for every season.
Guess I'm in trouble, but since I'm well beyond the 8-12th grade years perhaps it'll be okay. :evilgrin:
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:33 PM
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21. Notice there is NO mention...
of any modesty standards for boys. Color me surprised. :eyes:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:39 PM
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23. well, as a girl's fashion site
I wouldn't expect there to be modesty standards for boys there, would you? I don't expect to find dresses at the Men's Wearhouse, after all.

And fashion for boys is significantly less revealing than for girls these days, so it's less of an issue, I am sure.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:17 PM
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26. way to completely miss my point
Which is that no one ever talks about modesty for boys. People don't ever focus on male behavior and dress and appearance the way they do for females.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:27 PM
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27. way ot miss my point too!
Men's fashion is more modest than popular women's fashion to begin with. Women show much more skin than men do, right? when's the last time you saw a man bare his shoulders or knees in the workplace? when a man shows his asscrack from low riding jeans, it is a source of mockery (plumber butt!) when a woman does it, some people find it hot. Men don't wear tight clothing often anymore, or nearly as revealing clothing as women do on a daily basis.

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:43 PM
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24. So what?
They aren't hurting anyone with this site. There's nothing wrong with being religious, no matter what that religion is, as long as you aren't hurting or defaming others (which to me isn't really religion, but that's another topic). And I for one am sick of 12 year olds dressing like 25 year old whores, a little modesty and dignity would be a good thing these days!!

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:31 PM
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28. i thought they were pretty enough. to many moms have too hard a time finding clothes that arent
dressing girls like sluts. so there is someone doing something about this so they can dress girls in stylish clothes that arent horrible looking and inappropriate.

no issue with this company. filling in for a void that isnt offered to girls
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:48 PM
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30. I don't know, I think they look kinda cute.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:42 PM
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31. To each her own. However...
I don't like their judgmental attitude towards women who prefer to wear more revealing clothes. It's not an either/or "if you don't follow our rules, you are an immodest slutty woman who doesn't respect herself," but that seems to be the implication that they're giving.

It's no skin off my back if some women want to follow these guidelines. However, there's no reason for the namecalling and disdain of those who don't. And I say this as a woman in my 20's.
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