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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:28 PM
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Freakishly warm in Central Ohio
When I was a kid, during Winter, there would be a layer of snow on the ground. And it would pretty much stay there until Spring came.

Last year, that long lasting layer of snow never happened, snow stayed on the ground 2 days max.

This year it's even worse, there's no snow on the ground at all, and most of time it's even warm enough to go outside without a coat on.

Anyone still think the jury is out on Global Warming?
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:31 PM
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1. It's the same thing north of you ...
... here in Michigan.

The kids and I got new x-country skis 3 years ago ... we're still waiting to get some skiing in.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:31 PM
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2. Iowa was in the 50s, this morning.
People have their doors and windows open. Looks like we will cool off quickly and get some snow.
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:32 PM
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3. Warm here in Missouri n/t.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:34 PM
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4. And SE MI
45-degree drizzle here. The geese didn't even bother to head South this year.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:36 PM
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5. Winter of 78/79
It was brutal. There was around two feet of snow on the ground, the temp did not go above zero for the entire month of January, and it was just awful. We haven't had a winter like that since then. We have had record heat and below average rainfalls in a number of summers since then though. At this writing, it is 52 degrees on Dec. 31 and it rained last night. That is freakish for the eastern Iowa/western Illinois area. Yep, I'd have to say global warming is the real deal.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:42 PM
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9. interesting you should mention that winter
b/c here in Philly, that was the winter which got everyone all in a dither about the dreaded...'snowfall'. We had 2 storms with unexpected accumulations and the tv stations figured out that there was a lot of money to be made with hysteria...so did the supermarkets. We have lived in terror ever since due to the imminent 2 inch blizzards which we get once in a while.

Not one flake this year so far.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:36 PM
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6. Ah, shaddap!
I'm digging out from under 15+ inches of snow here in New Mexico.

The last time NM had this kind of significant snowstorm was 1959, and it wasn't nearly this heavy.

My neighbor spent yesterday afternoon shoveling her roof because flat roofs (the norm here) are leaking like crazy.

There are few plows in this town and sanding trucks are inadequate in this much snow.

And it's coming your way, so I'd avoid gloating if I were you.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:37 PM
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7. 27 in Denver & The Naysayers About Global Warming
those morons who keep writing letters to the Denver papers forget there's a whole rest of the world where the temperature is unseasonably warm.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:43 PM
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10. Global warming is about freak weather patterns, both hot and cold.
It's been like early spring in SW Penn. the whole holiday season. While I am relieved to not have to shovel my hilly driveway and salt the front walk and steps, I am quite concerned about the direction in which our weather patterns are heading. That ice island breaking off in
Canada is an incredible development.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:37 PM
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8. Winter has been warm across much of the Midwest for the past three years
Here in Missouri, we finally had our first substantial snow in three years the first week of December. Since then however, it has been abnormally warm. What's sad is that so many people are happy about a mild winter, not connecting it with the fact that we're getting a huge increase in summertime insects, and below normal rainfall.

I'm quite worried about my orchard. Fruit trees need certain amount of time of below freezing temperatures to grow and fruit properly. We're simply not getting that this winter, and I'm looking at a second year in a row of poor growth.

This keeps up, and I'll be able to plant citrus trees soon:crazy:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:44 PM
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11. Here's the culprit:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:56 PM
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12. Here in NE Ohio I live near Mosquito Lake...
...It barely froze over last year, and then only for a few weeks.

Once popular for ice fishing, I don't know if it will have time this year to even generate a few ice cubes.

Though I don't miss the misery of walking out into weather so cold my ears pop, this can't be a good sign of global health.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:59 PM
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13. El Nino is keeping us warm here in Wisconsin.
It's in the 40's this morning and has been raining off and on since yesterday. Sometimes a long, hard shower. If this was happening in the summer it would be a million dollar rain for the farmers. This is not Wisconsin December weather.
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loser_user Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:00 PM
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14. El Nino?
NOAA says its El Nino.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/784010/credit_el_nino_for_mild_winter/index.html?source=r_science


Then again I have two feet of snow here in Santa Fe. I guess if you really want it, I'll send it to you...
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:09 PM
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15. Wasn't it warm in 97/98 or around then?
A couple years before then, it was freakishly cold.
I grew up in Ohio. I turned 29 today. In my memory, the winter was often variable with multiple freezes and thaws common.
Here in Wisconsin, it got cold early, but the past couple weeks have been above freezing during the day, not much snow.
There is global warming, but I'm not sure that this weather every year is our future. I think there were a couple other years like this.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:13 PM
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17. It was war mlike this a few years ago. I remember having pansies growing
in December then too. (Although now they are gone.)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:13 PM
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16. We finally have a dusting here in Maine. Not sure how long it will last.
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:13 PM
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18. Well, it might not be global warming...
but it sure as hell is not-quite-global warming, which I am just as concerned about. I'm in south central PA and we are freakishly warm here too. I've got a friend up in VT. She is very upset that she isn't getting any snow. Usually they're already buried. This has been the warmest year on record remember. Pretty fucking scary.
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:19 PM
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19. It happens.
In 1994 in Michigan, the whole state had no snow. I was living in the Upper Pennisula then and our snowmobiles were parked all winter. Then in late January, early February, the temperatures throughout the state dropped waaaay below freezing and water lines were freezing solid six feet below ground everywhere. That insulating blanket of snow was not to be had anywhere. We kept our faucets going all winter--woe to the person who shut them off in the first couple of days before you got used to the water running. We had hoses hooked up from neighbor to neighbor because some pipes just could not be thawed and you couldn't get to them because the ground was frozen solid too. My husband is a plumber and a heating technician and I swear I hardly saw him for three months; he was gone all hours of the day and night. They were having the same problems as far south as Big Rapids, because I grew up there and it was a mess there too. It was pretty much statewide. And then came May and June and we had to learn all over to turn the faucets OFF! :)

I still feel this weather now, though, is related to global warming.
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jumpoffdaplanet Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:23 PM
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20. Proper name is "Global Climate Change"
which is due to the global warming of the earth.
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