Okay. Here is the thing. If the IRAQis themselves had captured saddam without US involvment

[greenbriar]

this would be okay. But as it is, the us did everything but the murder so the US people are going to have retrobution to pay.

We should have kept our hands clean from the start

If saddam needed to be executed the Iraqis should have captured him and held the trial and executed him all on their own.

that would have been right

we should NOT have interferred


and bush denying any part of the execution is laughable

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. Agreed

Also, the fact that WE had to maintain responsibility for safeguarding Saddam and ensuring that he didn't escape or become a victim of mob violence until the last few moments before his execution just proves to me how (in-)capable and weak the current Iraqi government is and just how "successful" we've been in terms of bringing peace, justice, and order to Iraq since our invasion/occupation.

[greenbriar]

2. yup

America is going to pay for this for a LONG LONG time

[Uncle Joe]

3. We broke the prime directive,

going in to a family feud and picking sides. We aided in turning a third rate brutal, ruthless dictator in to a martyr for the Sunnis. Bushco have no regard for true conciliation, justice or peace in Iraq, no profit in it.

I also believe Saddam was a loose cannon with the potential to damage the Bush clan with his testimony in a real court of law.

[greenbriar]

4. Bush so deserves a trial

I hope in my lifetime to see it


I will be dancing in the streets and throwing candy wrappers

[dave_p]

5. Nope

You mean if Iraqi opponents had overthrown thr regime all by themselves without 12 years of destabilization by sanctions, and without US intervention or support?

Then it'd be an internal matter, and up to Iraqis. Whether I was generally okay with that would depend on the regime that followed, and if it was some gathering of the opportunist filth occupying the Green Zone today, I wouldn't be happy with it at all, but it'd be for Iraqis to sort it out.

But I'm still not cool with killing people except in extreme circumstances where they clearly threaten far worse. It happens, and I can live with regimes that don't satisfy my personal ideal, but I think killing powerless detainees is a failure of humanity.

[Booster]

6. And our pumping up Saddam in the 80's for our benefit is what

bothers me. We should have never opened this can of worms.

[smirkymonkey]

7. We can say Saddam was "executed by the Iraqi people" until

we're blue in the face, but it doesn't make a difference. The whole world sees the US as executioner and that's something we can never undo. We have crossed a line and have lost whatever "moral high ground" we had left.

[greenbriar]

8. agreed

and there is no turning back now