JUST GOT WORD - NEPHEW KILLED IN BUSH'S WAR

[Th1onein]

God DAMN GWB to fucking hell. May he rot in hell. That mother fucking no good son of a bitch. How I hate him.

For God's sake, impeach this steaming pile of excrement. Get this war criminal out of the halls of our government and into a court for his crimes. I can't wait to see him hung for his crimes, a noose around his neck and him dangling, and gasping for his last breath.

[tinfoil tiaras]

1. OMG. I am so sorry

:cry: :cry: :cry:

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Sparkly]

2. I'm so sorry, Th1onein...

My sympathies to you and all the rest of your family. :hug:

[ThomCat]

3. I'm very sorry. Your entire family has my thoughts and

condolensces.

I agree with you. It's long past time that monster was put on trial. :(

[renie408]

4. This is awful. This war is awful. I am so sorry. n/t

[evlbstrd]

5. I'm so sorry.

Even in grief, be careful what you say on a public message board.

[Th1onein]

27. I shouldn't have to edit it, but I did.

Why should I be so careful of what I say when we have a LIAR in office, and when those LIES send innocent children to their deaths? And this, when the LIAR is too much of a COWARD to go to war, himself, and uses our children like toy fucking soldiers. I HATE HIM.

I hope he gets cancer and rots away, writhing in pain, piece by piece.

[evlbstrd]

75. I know.

But some words can be used against you.

[bdamomma]

203. Karma will get * for his lies.

[jgraz]

300. Sadly, that's probably not true

The only way that * will face justice is if we force it on him. Waiting for karma or God's judgment only makes it more likely that * will live out his worthless life in happy cluelessness, then go peacefully in his sleep, comforted by his delusions, cared for by the best medicine in the world and surrounded by opulence that he never earned.

We need to make sure that this miserable shit never has a day's peace as long as he lives.

[dogday]

6. I am so very sorry for your loss

My Son served in Iraq for a year and I know how you are feeling about this POS war... It must end now... All they want to do is send more troops..... When will it ever end????

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Oh how sad and at Christmas

What a tragedy. :cry:

[MrCoffee]

8. thoughts and prayers for you and your family.

[NanceGreggs]

9. Incredibly sorry for your loss, Th1onein ...

... our thoughts and prayers are with you and yours.

[NJCher]

10. OMG!

Your nephew has died?

This is horrible! My heart goes out to you, Th1onein.



Cher

[mourningdove92]

11. I am so sorry!

My prayers for your family.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. may he rest in peace

[babylonsister]

13. My deepest sympathies, Th1onein.

:hug: :cry:

[blm]

14. Horrible news - - I am so, so sorry for this undeserved loss.

.

[seemslikeadream]

15. I am so very sorry Th1onein

george bush will be held accountable, we will make sure of that

[eleny]

16. Oh, how sad

I'm so sorry for your loss. :grouphug:

[annabanana]

17. Oh, I am so sorry Th1onein

My thoughts and prayers are with your family.

We will stop this killer.

[habitual]

18. no words other than so, so sorry

sorry.

[Demobrat]

19. OMG. So sorry.

Wish there was something I could say that would really matter.

[elehhhhna]

20. so sorry.

[wryter2000]

21. I'm so sorry.

God, that's awful. You and your family are in my thoughts. :cry:

[roody]

22. so, so, so, so sorry

[politicasista]

23. Our thoughts and prayers are with you

:grouphug: :cry:

[H2O Man]

24. I am very sorry.

There are no words.

[Pithy Cherub]

25. So very very sorry!

:cry:

Your beloved Nephew, You and Yours are in my thoughts and prayers. So sorry on your loss. :hug:

[angstlessk]

26. My sympathy to you and your family, my hatred for G W fucking boosh!

I am so sorry for your loss, my husbands niece is in Iraq now.

[The Straight Story]

28. No idea what to say except damned sorry to hear this

The family will be in my prayers.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

29. This is awful...

I am so sorry for your loss. I wish I had words to comfort you; but I can't imagine what they would be.

I am so sorry for every soldier affected by GWBs abuse of power.

[WI_DEM]

30. I'm so sorry.

Another young life snuffed out for a worthless cause.

[Uncle Joe]

31. I am sorry for you and your family's loss Th1onein

:hug:

[Fleshdancer]

32. My deepest sympathies to you and your family

I can't begin to imagine what you are going through right now. The anger, the sadness...I am so very sorry. :cry:

[Cleita]

33. I am sorry and I agree, this criminal cabal needs to go.

The sooner investigations start for impeachment, the better.

[Blue_In_AK]

34. I'm so sorry.

Please accept my condolences. I share your opinion of the war criminal in chief.

[LWolf]

35. My deepest sympathies to you and yours.

[undeterred]

36. I am so sorry.

When you catch your breath, tell us about him.

[Maddy McCall]

37. So very sorry.

:hug:

[datadiva]

38. On No!

:cry: :hug:

[GalleryGod]

39. TAPS.

O8)

[nashville_brook]

40. goddamn, i am so sorry.

i'm weeping for you. for all of us, really. :hug:

[flyarm]

41. MY HEART BREAKS FOR YOUR FAMILY..HOW AWFUL..

MY SINCEREST CONDOLENCES..AS IF THAT HELPS....BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY TO YOU... ( pardon caps..i have been yelled at about it ..sorry)

my heart truely aches for you and your family..what a damn shame..i sit here in tears for your nephew..and the loss of his greatness ...

what can we do to stop this carnage??

what..i just wish i had the answer to that...we protest , we fill out countless petitions..we go speak to congress people and senators..we write letters..and we can't stop this..this madness..this killing..

i really wish i had the answers..i feel helpless to help you..and your pain..and your families pain...

god i wish i had the answers...

we have to stop this somehow..some way..

i send my kindest thoughts and prayers for your family...and my tears for a young person we all lost...

fly

[Redstone]

42. Oh, Jesus. My condolences to your family. That's all I can say, except that you're right

to feel the way you do.

Redstone

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

43. So sorry

Peace be with you.

[democrank]

44. Oh, Th1onein......

I`m so very sorry. Wish I could find the words to comfort you.

[Bjornsdotter]

45. My deepest sympathies

...for you and your family. My thoughts are with you.

:hug:

[Beaverhausen]

46. I'm so sorry

My prayers and thoughts to you and your family. :hug:

[greatauntoftriplets]

47. I am so sorry for your family's loss....

My deepest condolences to you.

[HeeBGBz]

48. I'm so sorry to hear this, Th1onein

My thoughts are with you and your family. It aches my heart that you have this loss of your nephew. Impeach and Prosecute.

[Taxloss]

49. I'm very sorry to hear that.

The sooner we end this bloody mess, the better.

[goclark]

50. Words can not express the outrage and sorrow that I feel

This War Must End NOW!

My little cousin reinlisted so that he could be in the army for 20 years.

They promised him that if he did one more year they would send him to school etc., etc.
LIES

Two weeks after he signed up, he got notice that he'll be going to Iraq in early summer.

Damn them all!

Please accept my heartfelt prayers for your family.

[Bunny]

51. I'm so sorry.

:hug:

[LosinIt]

52. Oh No! I am so sad that this has happened to your family.

I hate that this happens to any family, but especially when it happens to someone I 'know'.

Tell your sister or brother that there is a community of almost 100,000 strong who send their heartfelt condolences. This absolutely devastating, I can't imagine losing a child, but to lose one just to satisfy Junior's bloodlust would send me right over the edge. All I can say is we are here to listen when you need to vent.

[Imalittleteapot]

53. Oh no. Another tragedy.

I am so sorry to hear your sad news. My thoughts are with you and your family.

Take care.

[Rick Myers]

54. My condolences...

This war is good for no one, and GWB is the most worthless human on the PLANET.

Sorry to hear of your loss, peace be with him...

[nosmokes]

55. my condolences to you and the whole family.

and i second your sentiments. heartily.

[Dinger]

56. You Have My Condolences

Not that that helps any, and I agree with you 100%. This has to stop, yesterday!

[Lisa]

57. I am so sorry! Tears for the young man, and his entire family ...

[SharonRB]

58. I'm so sorry

My condolences to you and the rest of his family.

[Maat]

59. Words cannot express how angry I am right now.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family (sending comforting, positive, healing energy your way); however, I'm more motivated than ever to work to end this unconsionable occupation and aggression.

[BeliQueen]

60. I am so sorry

I am so sorry. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.

I am so sorry.

[ninkasi]

61. I'm so very sorry

Th1onein, I am so sorry for your family's loss. This was a war of choice, and each and every death ultimately is the fault of Bush and the neocons, who lied to have this thing they wanted so much. They would never sacrifice their own children, though. Love and peace to you and your family, who are among the thousands of others sorrowed by the loss of a loved one. None of these lives should have ended due to Bush and his enormous ego.

[nradisic]

62. I am so sorry...

Impeach the SOB.

[Doctor_J]

63. Condolences, Th. You should do more than hope though

organize a march. Write a LTTE. Call in to one of your local hate radio stations.

Help yourself through this rough time by making sure the man responsible gets what is coming to him.

[barbtries]

64. oh gawd i'm so sorry

ahhhh. murderous motherfuckers. all of the bushies should have drowned in the blood they have spilled ages ago.

is he your sister's son? your brother's? your in-law's? are you close to them? i hope they know their son was MURDERED - and by the government of his own country. too much tragedy.

bless him and his loved ones. i share your pain

[Old and In the Way]

65. So sorry to hear this.....

condolences to your family. I hate this elective political war started by an AWOL neer-do-well for purely partisan/corporate reasons. May he be impeached and forced to accountability for his crimes against humanity.

[Name removed]

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[Gregorian]

67. We grieve with you. So very sad.

Such sorrow. Such loss.


Please don't let the anger get in the way of your grieving.

[Lurking Dem]

68. Deepest sympathies.

:cry:

[neuvocat]

69. I am grieved by your loss.

I am so sorry!

[fed-up]

70. hugs to you and your family/friends, I am sooo sorry :( n/t

[Vyan]

71. Here's a Ribbon...

That may be too late for your nephew, but not the rest of them yet.

Vyan

[ikojo]

72. Th1onein, I am so sorry to hear of your family's loss

:hug:

[judaspriestess]

73. my condolences to you and your family

what a tragic loss for you :(

[Bobbie47]

74. I'm so sorry

my prayers are with you and your family.

[bigwillq]

76. I am very sorry for your loss.

:hug:

[Martin Eden]

77. Multiply your family's sorrow x3000

If there is a Hell, Bush will rot in it.

[Joanne98]

78. OMG! I'm so sorry...Prayers to you and your family!

[Blue Diadem]

79. I'm so sorry Th1onein

I'm at a loss for words. I feel your anger too..and sorrow for another life lost in a war we should never have started.

[brook]

80. I am so sorry.

It's heartbreaking. Words are useless - I have no 'pretty phrases' with which to allay your pain. I have your anger. I have my tears. Yes, God Damn George Bush and his vampire crew to Hell!

Hanging's too good for him. Let him live long and suffer greatly, reviled by the world.

[stanwyck]

81. Heartbreaking.

We're all so sorry for you and your family.

[Kerrytravelers]

82. I am so sorry for your loss.

[brer cat]

83. Th1onein, I'm so sorry for your loss.

You and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers. Please take care of yourself for now. *'s day of reckoning WILL come.

[karlrschneider]

84. We need to know his name so we can properly address his sacrifice.

Thanks.

[Th1onein]

159. His name was Nathan Given.

He was 23 years old. He was due to come home this month, but that was put off until January. His mother said that she would not celebrate Christmas until he came home. I guess, now, she never will.

I pray to all that is decent and good in this universe that Bush contracts a horrible disease that causes him to suffer horrible pain. I pray that his children and his family suffer right along with him.

There are some sins that are never forgiven.

[partylessinOhio]

171. I am so sorry for your loss of your nephew, Nathan Given. Hold his mother

close for she is going to need all the love and support you can give.

Her heart will be broken forever.

(May * suffer a long and profound suffering death.)

[Yvonne]

462. Nathans Mom

I have held Donna several times since she received the news. The only words I could understand when she called me was "my baby." I collapsed in the middle of the floor screaming "no! it's got to be a mistake!!" They carried me out of the office that day. My sister told me it feels like a hole has been ripped in her heart that will never heal.

[pberq]

193. deepest sympathy for you and your sister.

[JohnnyLib2]

85. So, so sorry. Sad thoughts for you and all the family.

[Virginia Dare]

86. Very horribly sad...

I wish there were some words of comfort I could offer you, unfortunately your anger is well justified.

You and your family are in my thoughts at this time.

[Nickster]

87. My God, I'm so sorry for your loss. Someday this nightmare will end. n/t

[xultar]

88. My prayers to you and your family. May he rest in peace.

[Monkeyman]

89. This Veteran Make you this Promise

He will not be forgotten. We will fight harder then ever now

[TomInTib]

108. And this Vet will fight alongside you, Monkeyman

Will we ever learn?

[acmejack]

139. I'm with you gentlemen.

[sce56]

278. We have only begun to fight! Impeachment Now

My sincere condolences to your family. My son spent two tours of duty in that illegal war and then ended his eight years of service he is done for good now.


http://web.archive.org/web/20030602211200/

October 17, 2006,Will be remembered as the Enabling day of the 21st Century!
"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures..."
~Adolf Hitler, March 23, 1933, before the German Parliament (Reichstag) as he urged them to pass his "Enabling Act"





Fascism Accomplished!

[BlueCollar]

366. add me

I'm so sorry for your loss

[katsy]

90. I'm so so very sorry.

[YankeyMCC]

91. My sympathies to you and your family

The other day in the car the dissuasion came around to Bush and I called him "an immoral bastard"

My wife said something to the effect, "You are such a peaceful non-judgemental person it's sometimes shocking to hear you talk about him like that."

I replied that being disposed towards peace and open minded and non-judgemental doesn't mean being stupid or blind. And if you can't call a person who caused the death of One Hundred Thousand INNOCENT people at least over lies then who can you call Immoral.

(ok technically I should drop the bastard since we know who his father is but just seems a fitting way to add emphasis)

[pitohui]

92. oh jesus i am sorry

i fully support impeachment, trial, conviction, and punishment for * and all who conspired in the illegal invasion of iraq

may the day come soon

i am so sorry this happened to your family

[Justpat]

93. I'm truly sorry to hear this.

And I feel the same way about GWB's eternal prospects.

[xchrom]

94. my sympathies to you and yours.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

95. Please accept my condolances

the hurt from the loss of a loved one, especially one who was fit and in the prime of life, is devistating.

[SeattleGirl]

96. My condolences to you and your family, Th1onein.

I am so very sorry for the loss of your nephew. :cry: :cry: :hug:

[RestoreGore]

97. Sorry for your loss

It's time for the Democrats in Congress TO END THIS WAR.

[Cameron27]

98. I'm so sorry for your tragic loss.

Peace be with you and your family.

[Minnesota_Lib]

99. I am so sorry for your loss and my heart goes out to his family.

[GrumpyGreg]

100. I'm sorry sorry to hear this,. Condolences to the family.

[devilgrrl]

101. I am so sorry for your loss.

:hug:

[Lars39]

102. My condolences,Th1onein.

:cry: :hug:

[sarge43]

103. My condolences to you and your family.

I am so sorry.

[chiffon]

104. T, I wish you the best during this sad time. [nt]

[globalvillage]

105. Oh, no.

I'm so sorry.

[Kahuna]

106. I am very sorry for your loss. I had nephews in Iraq and didn't

rest until they came home safe. I'm so sorry that your loved one didn't make it back. :cry:

[JanusAscending]

107. Sweet Jesus, please intervene, and stop this madness!

We are here for you :cry: :grouphug:

[AikidoSoul]

109. Love and sympathy to you and

to your entire family. May you all be able to grieve together with love and compassion for what has been lost to you.

[JackDragna]

110. Such terrible frustration..

..for you and your family. My deepest condolences on your family's loss.

[knitter4democracy]

111. Make sure we all know when and were the services are.

I'm sure there are many here who would like to be there for the honor guard or to send flowers.

What a terrible year. I am so sorry. There are no words for that kind of grief. :cry:

[NMDemDist2]

112. I'm so sorry

what a waste

[mithnanthy]

113. I'm so sorry for your loss

n/t

[durtee librul]

114. Please accept my deepest sympathies

on your loss. you and your family are in my prayers.

I, too, wish for justice for Bush....justice by a court appearance in the Hague for his crimes against humanity....somewhere Poppy and Fright White momma cannot help him with all their money and connections....and we all know where that judgement is.

Crissssspppeeeeeeeee.......and even that is too good.

I saw a Twilight ZOne episode once where a person died and ended up in a room with people showing home vaction movies ad nauseum, arguing and crying kids. The person was going nuts trying to find a way out of the room. Finally a door opened and the devil told him to just sit tight as he was in hell. The guy said he thought hell was all fire and burning the devil replied that he used to use fire, but thought this was a more effective way of making souls suffer - to have them listen and endure for eternity the things which bothered them the most in life.

Keeping that in mind, maybe Bush will end up in Iraq with all of his victims around him constantly asking why.

Again, my most deepest sympathies to you and yours in this very difficult time.

[boston bean]

115. I am so sorry for your loss.

:cry:

You and your family are in my thoughts.

[freedomfries]

116. all my sympathy Thionien!

nothing can be said to soothe the pain, we can only try to share and hope your nephew will be one of the last soldiers lost on that senseless war.

[Saturday]

117. I cry with you. I'm so very sorry.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[Ghost in the Machine]

118. So sorry to hear about your loss.

May peace and comfort blanket you and your family during this tragic time.

God DAMN you, George W. Bush

[BattyDem]

119. I'm so sorry

:cry:

My condolences to you and your entire family. :hug:

[ProSense]

120. Every life lost in this war is a tragedy!

May your nephew rest in peace.

My prayers go out to you and your family.




I share your sentiments: this illegal war must be brought to an end with full accountability.

[Irishonly]

121. I am so sorry

My deepest sympathy to you and your family.

[smirkymonkey]

122. I am so sorry for your loss!

My condolences to you and your family. :hug:

[TacticalPeek]

123. Bummer. Sorry.

A Poem That I Wrote In A High Fever

You who are lengthening your lives
with the best doctors and the best medicines
remember those who are shortening their lives
with the wars
that you in your long lives are not
preventing.

You who are again screwing
the younger generations
and winking at each other
the winking of your eyelids
is like the chill of the swinging shutters
in an empty house.


-- Yehuda Amichai

[riderinthestorm]

124. Oh I am so sorry.

:cry: :cry:

[motocicleta]

125. God damn him to hell

I am so sick at heart to hear this news, T. And I am ashamed at my own complacency that I did not do more to keep your nephew alive. I hope you and your family find peace.

[Hepburn]

126. Oh, fuck.....

...I am so sorry. There just are not enough words to say how bad this is or how much Bush is responsible for this kind of agony imposed on way too many families.

Nor are there enough words to say how sorry I am and how badly I feel.

[livvy]

127. My most sincere condolences. I share your rage, and am so sorry for your pain.

[Morgana LaFey]

128. Unimaginable horror

This senseless carnage and waste has to STOP, dammit.

[mnhtnbb]

129. I'm so sorry. My husband has a great-nephew in Iraq and we

were talking today about the possibility of having to attend his funeral.

I am so sorry.

[Libby2]

130. Oh no.....no, no, no !!!

I'm so, so sorry.

I hate that fucking bastard too.

[wicket]

131. Words fail

I am so sorry :hug:

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[lisa58]

132. You're family must be so broken hearted...

...I'm so sorry for your loss.

[Berry Cool]

133. There are no words for this

except to say how very, very sorry I am and how my heart goes out to you and your loved ones.

[Ecumenist]

134. Oh my God, Th1onein!!

I am so sorry and I extend my DEEPEST CONDOLENCES. I cannot nor will I not say anything else as there are some things in regards to this "government" best left unsaid. I believe that most of us, not just on DU but in the greater part of this country and the world feel ever deepening hatred and anger at this bunch to let nothing get in the way of their pursuit of money and power.

I will promise that I and my family will work ever harder to keep pushing this cabal turned out of office and sent off to whatever prosecutorial destiny that awaits them.

Again, I am SO sorry and wish there was something I could do to turn back time and return your dear nephew to his family as well as remove the pain all of you feel tearing your hearts out. God bless you and your family and friends who have been trhust into this nightmare for lies and completely against your will and our wills.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

135. Deepest condolences to your family

I hope and pray for the day when no more families have to hear such dreadful news.

:hug:

[StaggerLee]

136. My condolences

words fail me.

[WinkyDink]

137. May God bless his soul.

Your nephew was the patriot; Bush is the traitor.

You have my sincere condolences.

[shadowknows69]

138. I can't even verbalize how sorry I am

:cry: :hug:

[BleedingHeartRN]

140. So, so sorry :(

May peace be with you and your family during this terrible time.

I share your anger and frustration. Damn the rethugs who sent him there :mad:

[jgraz]

141. So sorry -- this monster needs to be stopped

We all need to turn our rage and sorrow into ACTION. It's getting to the point where anyone who's not out in the streets will have to accept some complicity for these senseless deaths.

[jgraz]

142. Duplicate -- bush sucks

I never thought I could hate someone as much as I hate this subhuman piece of excrement.

[TheCowsCameHome]

143. I'm sorry.

What can I say..............

[cal04]

144. I'm so sorry Th1onein

my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family
Please let us know if there's anything we can do
:hug:

[illinoisprogressive]

145. Everyday I hate GWB more and more

I know the shitcan will eventually have to face the real God (and not the one he thinks talks to him) and have to answer for his crimes.

[jgraz]

149. Bush will only face justice if we force him to

Here's where belief in a mythical supreme judge becomes counterproductive. We should take absolutely no solace in this belief. Bush is ultimately a creation of our society, and our society has a responsibility not only to punish him but to make sure that no other animals like him are ever allowed near a seat of power.

[formercia]

146. What a waste of human life

I hope there isn't a hole deep enough for him to hide in Paraguay.

[WilliamPitt]

147. God damn it.

I'm so sorry. You and your family will be in all my thoughts.

[G Hawes]

148. Terribly sorry

To hear the bad news.

Wishing your nephew's family all the best at this awful time.

[appal_jack]

150. DEEP CONDOLENCES

Th1onein, I am very sorry for your and your family's loss.

GW* is indeed a war criminal, and I share your hope that he will be called to answer for his lies, high crimes, and misdemeanors.

May it be some small consolation that your nephew's having answered this nation's call for service will forever be a noble and heroic deed, even if the thief-in-the-whitehouse that did the calling TO service (not having served in any meaningful way himself) is far lower than pond-scum.

I salute your nephew for his selfless sacrifice, and pray that his soul be peacefully welcomed in a better hereafter.

-app

[sandnsea]

151. very sorry

Wishing you and your family comfort in this terrible time.

[Name removed]

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[Glimmer of Hope]

153. So sorry. There are no words.

[KT2000]

154. There are no words

that can make this better - I am just so sorry.

[soup]

155. My thoughts are with you and your family.

I am so sorry for your loss.

May he rest in peace.

Too much pain, too much suffering. Damn it. This has got to stop.

[laylah]

156. Oh Th1onein!

:hug: Words are so empty. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family, and my wishes for a peaceful sleep with your nephew.

Dumbass, lying, murdering GWB will get him comuppance...someday, somehow, some way.

I am so very sorry for your loss.

Jenn

[madokie]

157. so sorry

[Mz Pip]

158. There are no words

Another bloody footprint in BushCo's march toward his legacy. We pray for justice and get more blood. Hell isn't good enough for him.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Deb]

160. You have my most heartfelt sympathies

I am so very sorry you and your family must endure this pain and loss. If there is anything we can do, please let us know.

[tnlefty]

161. I'm sorry seems so hollow.

I do cry when I read the lists - so young and so much of life not even with a chance to live.

I'll be thinking about you and your family and so many other families. I have no words, only a deep sorrow.

[TexasLady]

162. BUSH CANNOT escape his due

my nephews are both back and one is terribly messed up. My heart is completely filled with compassion for what your family must be going through.
And FUCK the old GOAT and his filthy minions. Their terror is putrid, and ghastly for what they have done to all of us.
I am SO very very sorry!!!

[calimary]

163. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn,

I am so sorry to hear this.

Can hardly articulate it.

Damned war.

Damn bush.

[DinahMoeHum]

164. God damn this war to hell. A thousand times over.

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

[kineneb]

165. our condolences

to you and your family. Our thoughts are with you.

May sanity soon prevail.

:hug:

[shance]

166. Bless your heart Th1onein. Your family has been through enough lately.

Am so very sorry to read this news, especially for you.

Yes, it's overtime for these men to be held accountable.

Please take care and keep us posted.

[Th1onein]

179. It's been a horrible year.

My God. I knew he was in Iraq, but I just never thought that something like this would happen. I tried NOT to think about it, mostly. This is so hard. And to not know more details. Whether he suffered or not. This was the THIRD IED he and his group had driven over. The first didn't go off as planned, the second just blew their tires out. This one did the trick, though. We don't even know if others were killed with him.

[shance]

370. It's all just so wrong. Is there anything we can do to help you get more information?

Letter writing, calls?

I'll see if Veterans for Peace have more information and/or Gold Star Mothers on how we can best get answers.

Let us know what we can do TH1.

You and your family take care.

[Th1onein]

380. I'm sorry for taking so long to answer.

I am waiting for word from my family in Texas. I am stuck here, for now, in California.

There is at least one BIG Texas family that HATES GWB, I'll tell you that.

[freefall]

167. My thoughts and prayers are with you and the rest of your family.

This is tragic as is all the needless suffering brought on by our criminal administration.

Peace,

freefall

[lpbk2713]

168. He's a criminal SOB.

We all share in your loss.


Boosh says he sleeps well at night. Only because he doesn't have to worry about some lunatic sending HIS kids of to a bogus profiteering war.

[poverlay]

169. I'm so sorry.

[Kajsa]

170. On no! I'm so sorry, Thionein.

I don't know what to say.

May your nephew rest in peace.
We'll get that GWB.

The killing and insanity have been going on
for far too long.

You're in my thoughts and prayers.

:hug:

[Poiuyt]

172. I'm so very sorry for you and your family

Your post has hit me like a ton of bricks. I have a nephew who will soon be heading back to Iraq for his second tour. What is just a fear for me has become reality for you.

One consolation - George W, Bush will rot in hell for all eternity. Of that you can be sure.

[RiverStone]

173. So very sad to hear about your nephew....

My heart goes out to you and your family.

May true justice prevail in this tragic criminal war of aggression. Yes, BushCo deserves to be tried/impeached for his lies that led us into Iraq.

Your rage is justified.

Your loss is beyond words.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

174. I am so very sorry, Th1onein.

My deepest condolences to you and your family. :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Evergreen Emerald]

175. Words are insufficient

I am so sorry for your loss and your heartache.

[Mabus]

176. I'm so very sorry for you and your family

and I share your sentiments.

[GreenPartyVoter]

177. I am so very sorry! *hugs and prayers*

[Bullwinkle925]

178. I am so very sorry for you and your family.

I agree with every word you've typed. I hope that your family can find some way to heal their hearts and ease their pain of this loss.
What is your nephew's name? I will light a candle for him in my home.
Peace & Hugs
BW925

[Target_For_Exterm]

180. My deepest condolences for your loss.

Feel free to vent here all you want. You're among friends. Ignore any unsensitive types who might say insensitive things. That person(s) doesn't reflect the views of the vast majority of DUers.

I'm so, so sorry.

:grouphug:

[likesmountains 52]

181. Sorry, what a year for your family..

[Dystopian]

182. So very sorry.....

Sending prayers for you and your family...


peace~

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

183. I am so sorry.

My condolences to you and your family; and I hope someday there will be some justice for your nephew and all the others who have died in this senseless war.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

184. So very sorry for your loss

:cry: :hug:

[mazzarro]

185. My sincere condolence -- n/t

[LaraMN]

186. Damn. I am so very, very sorry.

You're right. Bush is a piece of shit and he deserves far worse than he's inflicted upon the countless victims of HIS war. This is so wrong. I'm sorry for the loss of your nephew. My thoughts are with you.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Lipton64]

187. You have my deepest condolences

Maybe we should have some fascistic "patriotic loyalty" trials here in the United States. And those deemed "unloyal" will hang by their necks. I guarantee Dubya and Cheney would be among the first to rock the gallows. Here's to fucking impeachment next year!!

You have my deepest prayers and thoughts for your loss.

[EstimatedProphet]

188. Oh, I am so sorry

There's nothing else I know to say. It's all so wrong, so terribly wrong.

[truth2power]

189. I am so sorry, Th1onein...

My condolences to you and your family. :hug:

[Bluzmann57]

190. Ah man, that is some really sad news.

It won't make any national news, it's just another "casualty of war" as far as those motherfuckers in power are concerned. My sympathies to you and your nephew's entire network of family and friends. And I echo your sentiments about gwb. Fuck him. He needs to be in a prison cell somewhere.
On edit- I just read through a few posts in this thread. Nathan Given, may you Rest in Peace and may your, as well as all other war casualties spirits haunt gwb forever.

[smokey nj]

191. My deepest condolences to you and your family.

[TankLV]

192. Words fail - I am so very sorry for your loss...

so very sorry...

[Sacajawea]

194. Requiescat In Pace

My condolences to you, Th1onein.

[TwilightZone]

195. So sorry to hear that.

Our condolences on your family's loss.

[StClone]

196. My Deepest sympathy and Comforting Thoughts

To you and the family of the lost Soldier.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[rasputin1952]

197. My sincerest condolences to you and yours during this time of

duress.

May all who knew Nathan recall the best of times and how he affected lives of those who knew him in a positive manner.

My heart goes out to you and all who knew Nathan, may he rest in Peace.

FWIW, I also despise bush and his minions from hell for bringing this war upon people who did not deserve it.

[Straight Shooter]

198. I'm sorry, Th1onein.

May you and your family find peace one day, when those who sent your nephew to Iraq are held accountable for their crimes, whether here on Earth, or wherever their immortal souls end up.

:hug:

[BlackVelvet04]

199. I'm so terribly sorry for you and your

family.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

200. ...

Peace to your family Th1onein :hug:

[puerco-bellies]

201. I am sorry for your family's terrible loss.

Peace to you and yours.

[bdamomma]

202. I am so sorry for your loss.

[King Coal]

204. God Bless you and your family.

[Bryn]

205. My deepest sympathies

So sorry. I pray for peace for the whole family. My beloved brother was killed in Viet Nam so I know what it feels like to the whole family. So sad to hear about your nephew.

[sellitman]

206. I mourn with you.

I mourn for your loss and the country's loss. No easy words will help but you are not alone.

[zbird]

207. I'm so sorry for your loss, Th1onein.

Please extend my condolences and love to your family.

This has to end. NOW.

[Mind_your_head]

Our condolences to you and your family

May your nephew RIP. I am so very very sorry for your loss. :cry:

[graywarrior]

208. So sorry to hear this.

And I totally hear you!

[Grandrose]

209. I am so sorry.

[MikeNearMcChord]

210. My prayers for your family tonight.

To Shrub, Shooter, Limpaballs, Snowjob, Freepers, Chickenhawks and Yellow Elephants. This young man was no mere number, no comma, he was someone who was loved from the time of his birth. He was a friend in civilian life , and a comrade to his fellow GI's, who tried to do his best to do his duty.
Tell me those who support this war, I hope you enjoy your gas-guzzling hummers, your Dodge Rams, with the hemi, your flag-waving with those cheap Made-in-China crap from Wal-Mart, plus your "I Support The Troops Magnetic Stickers while you tell the homeless vet with PTSD, to quit the drugs and get a job. This was bought for a very expensive price, a family in mourning.
If there is a hell for those who got us into the war or cheered it, may be locked forever in a room forced to look at the pictures of the dead troops, and also forced to listen to the cries of those families who lost their sons, husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters, wives, nieces, nephews, fiances, friends.

To Th1onein we :cry: for you and we will :grouphug: you and your family tonight.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

211. I'm so terribly sorry

Words fail me at the moment. I share your sentiments about this goddamned bastard of a monkey man.

My deepest sympathies go out to you and your family for this most painful of losses.

[AnnieBW]

212. OMG!

Your family has our prayers. May * and his ilk meet up with Kali in a dark alley... :mad:

[johnnie]

213. Please accept my condolences

I am so sorry to hear this.

[Tuesday_Morning]

214. I'm so very sorry, Th1onein.

[kikiek]

215. I can only imagine the horror. I am so sorry.

[dailykoff]

216. So very sorry to hear this.

Another young life lost. We must stop this insane war NOW.

[bullwinkle428]

217. Absolutely horrible news...I'm so sorry for your loss. My deepest

sympathies to you and the entire family...

[David Zephyr]

218. So very sorry to learn this, Th1onein.

This war is tearing our country apart and all of these precious heroes deserve to come home.

I am so very sorry.

Regardless of the policy, Th1onein, your nephew is a hero.

--David

[G_Leo_Criley]

219. So very sorry.

Deepest sympathy to you and your family.

glc

[i miss america]

220. My heartfelt condolences to you and your family

:cry:

[libnnc]

221. I am so terribly sorry for your loss.

My deepest sympathies to you and your family. You all have suffered way too much this year.




And fucking damn all those chicken hawk, war loving, know-nothing mother fuckers to the deepest darkest reaches of hell.

Goddamn this administration and ALL their enablers.

My thoughts and outrage are with you.

[lancdem]

222. I'm so sorry

:hug:

[Upfront]

223. Very Sorry

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

224. Have faith in our Law

He will be held to account. Et Cheney too. Have faith in the Law of this Country.

I'm sorry for the loss of your nephew, I can not imagine the pain et emptiness.

~ A Nephew lost ~ God be with You.


ignore my tag line~ the dems are in control now.

[aaronbees]

225. Deepest condolences

I'm sorry for your loss. I got word over Christmas that one of my cousins, someone I looked up to a lot when a youngster, is back in Iraq serving in the Army and I am certainly worried for his safety. Hope you find some solace in the memories you have of him and the comfort of those close to you. :hug:

[Lochloosa]

226. I'll say it for you again

May that MOTHERFUCKER ROT IN HELL!!!!!!

[Jack Rabbit]

227. Condolences to you and your nephew's family

May he rest in peace and may justice be done.

[BensMom]

228. It is such a loss

I am so sorry you and your family have lost a loved one.

I will get off my ass and write my senators to get us out of this mess now.
I will make the time.
I will do it for your nephew and all of us.

[w8liftinglady]

229. I hope your family finds peace

I share your rage.Bless you,and his parents.

[BluePatriot]

230. My condolences.

[6000eliot]

231. I'm so sorry for your loss,

and I share your anger at the callous disregard for life of this idiot and his evil fuck cronies.

[Th1onein]

235. Thank you all, everyone of you, for your kind words.

My family members, all of us, are fighters. I don't know how many of you remember me from my posts about my sister, Andrea Clark, who was almost a victim of the Texas Futile Care Law, but our family fought that battle. We fought, tooth and nail, to keep St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital in Houston, from killing her. And we won. When my son, Keith, died of cystic fibrosis, I continued to fight to learn about the disease, and to find a compound that would stop it. And I won.

We do not give up. We are like those fighters you see and hear about that keep getting the crap beat out of them and just keep coming anyway.

Sometimes, you have to wrest the sense and the meaning out of tragedy. Maybe this, Nathan's death, is our family's call to arms. We will not be like some of the other families of the military dead, who are proud that their children served their country and who take pride in their honorable death.

We are not the type of people whom you would want as adversaries. We are mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore.

[lpbk2713]

259. Not a thing in the world wrong with being a fighter for things you believe in.

This is for you Th1onein ...... (click)



(and every now and then for me too)

[DemReadingDU]

323. I am so sorry for your family's loss

This has been a horrible year for your family.
Keeping all of you in my thoughts.

[DesertRat]

232. I am so sorry

We must stop this warmongering criminal!

:cry:

[Stardust]

233. Deeply , deeply sorry, Th1onein.

[Jcrowley]

234. To even consider

this pain is impossible. Damn.

Very, very sorry.

[femmocrat]

236. I'm so, so sorry for your loss, Th1onein

This absolutely breaks my heart and I totally understand how angry you are. We all are.

[Gloria]

237. So sorry for this senseless death.....my condolences to you and your family

[yankeeinlouisiana]

238. I'm so sorry for your loss, Th1onein

May peace and light be with his spirit.

[GenDem]

239. Deepest sympathy to you and your family

senseless...just plain senseless

[MODemocrat]

240. What a horrible tragedy you're going through

As far as Bush goes, nothing could ever re-pay him for what he's done to your nephew, and this whole
country. He's the most worthless piece of nothing I've ever even heard of. People go to prison every day for killing one person, and rightfully so; yet Bush thinks of himself as a hero of sorts; even
though he's responsible for deaths and the maiming of thousands. How 30 percent of the people in this
country can still believe in that maniac, is beyond my comprehension!!

Where is the justice? :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :evilfrown: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[FedUpWithIt All]

241. ...

:-( I am so very very sorry.

[MethuenProgressive]

242. God Bless you and your family.

And may God Damn George W. Bush.

[qanda]

243. I really am very sorry for your loss

I know that your family will never be the same after this. My thoughts and prayers will be with you during your time of grief.

[jwirr]

244. I am so sorry. I only hope that we can end this as soon as possible.

[Whoa_Nelly]

245. Heartfelt condolences to the loved ones whose hearts are broken

For your family and for you :hug:

[derby378]

246. I grieve for your loss, Th1onein

I am so sorry. ginbarn and I send our best thoughts to you and your family.

:hug:

[onecent]

247. I am so sorry Th1onein, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I

am in total agreement with you, we need this steaming pile of excrement impeached.

[ironflange]

248. I know there's nothing I can say that can help the pain, sorry

Requiescat in pace, Nathan.

[AZBlue]

249. I'm going to add to the long list of "I'm so sorry" posts here -

and know that you and your family are in our collective thoughts. That doesn't ease the pain, but know you're not alone.

[Infinite Hope]

250. My sympathies.

I got a "taste" of that feeling when I thought my brother may have died - he nearly did just over a year ago.

I understand your anger. God will deal with him as he sees appropriate.

[marmar]

251. All I can say is my heart goes out to you and your family....

Damn that bastard for all the blood that's on his hands. :cry:

[Pushed To The Left]

252. I'm sorry to hear about your loss, Th1onein

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family :hug:

[spindrifter]

253. I am so sorry for your loss.

This war MUST stop! We are losing too many of our kids for the B* egomania and BFEE greed. We stand with you and your family.

[bluethruandthru]

254. I'm so sorry!

My heart goes out to you and your family.

[Roland99]

255. I'm sure he was doing his best to protect the men in his company despite the reasons for being there

I'm so sorry.

:(

[lies and propaganda]

256. my heart breaks for you and our kids.

This is sure as shit not what they signed up for.

[Mnemosyne]

257. I am so sorry Th1onein. n/t

[BlueIris]

258. I'm really, really sorry. nt

[WinstonSmith4740]

260. I'm so sorry for your loss.

I have 2 nephews, 21 & 17, and I don't even want to imagine what you're going through. We can't get this SOB out of office soon enough.

[CatWoman]

261. sincerest condolences

:hug:

[Auntie Bush]

262. I agree with everything you said and I'm sending

you and all your family healing prayers and strength to make it through this horror...caused by the evil george bush. I truly hate that man for the millions of lives he's ruined all over this world. I feel for you and your family. Bless you all!

[Hissyspit]

263. All I can think to say is you are not alone in your sorrow and anger.

Condolences to you and your family.

[Nostradammit]

264. I'm sorry about your loss, Th1onein -

Utterly, and truly sorry.

May this be the war to end all war.

[JeremyWestenn]

265. /comfort

[Tsiyu]

266. I share your grief and anger

What hideous, horrible news.

You vent away; you have every right to hate that piece of shit who claims to be a "leader." All he has done is lead the bloodbath.

This just struck me - so hard to hear. I am so, so sorry.

RIP Nathan

I have a bumper sticker that says "I really, really HATE BUSH." PM me and I'll mail it to you if you want it. My own son Nathan gave it to me.

:hug: :cry: :grouphug:

[Pale Blue Dot]

267. All I can do is virtually hug you.

:hug:

I'm so sorry.

It's up to all of us to ensure that his death will not be in vain.

[SammyWinstonJack]

268. !!!

:hug: So sorry! And I agree with everything you typed! FUCK GW BUSH!

[magellan]

269. Th1onein, I'm so sorry for your family's loss

I've started a virtual candle group in Nathan's memory. Everyone can light one and leave a message.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Th1

My heartfelt sympathies.

[renate]

409. how about starting a separate thread for this?

That was a lovely thing to do--thank you. I just worry that your post won't be seen by people who've left their condolences already.

I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child or a sibling's beloved child. My heart is aching when I think of losing a cousin this age....

[grace0418]

270. What can any of us say that will ease your pain? Nothing, I suppose. But

we'll try anyway because we hurt so much for you and your family. And for all the families in the same place you are in right now. This has got to stop, and the entire evil empire must pay for their crimes against humanity.

[tom_paine]

271. My deepest condolences. The dead cry out for justice.

And I share with you the dream of Bush imprisoned and tried for his crimes against the American and Iraqi People.

I don't believe it will happen, and the Bush Family would initiate a slaughter, I believe, before they would see a member of the Imperial Family sent to jail.

But we can hope and pray that justice will be served.

[Hailtothechimp]

272. I'm sorry about your loss.

Words may not help too much right now. But this criminal presidency with its illegal wars will pass one day.

[niyad]

273. I know there aren't any words that can help right now, but know that your DU family is here, and

our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

[shireen]

274. deep deep condolences to you ...

Th1onein, I cannot begin to imagine the pain you and your family are going through right now. My thoughts are with you all.

Is there something we can do in Nathan's memory? If your family decides on a charity or organization for donations in his memory, please let us know.

:hug:

[Surya Gayatri]

275. Words fail me at this news, Th1onein,

but my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

SG:cry:

[fortyfeetunder]

276. OMG...I am so sorry.

I can't find the words other that I am so sorry for this tragic and senseless loss. My deepest sympathy to you and your family.

:hug:

[Counciltucky]

277. Sorry about your loss, man.

Hopefully Bush gets his just desserts. Hang in there -- we're here for ya.

[RamboLiberal]

279. Th1onein I am so sorry for your family and you

My deepest sympathies. And I share your anger.

[Wapsie B]

280. Omg I am so sorry.

You and your family is in my thoughts and prayers.

People are dying for nothing over there.

[Erika]

281. I've now got two nephews over there.

I am so sorry.

[auntAgonist]

282. My deepest heartfelt condolences to you and your family...

As a Mother I cannot begin to imagine his Mother's loss. May Nathan rest in peace.
My thoughts are with you all at this time Th1onein. :cry:

They ALL need to come home.

aA
kesha

[Erika]

283. Yes, he should suffer at least the fate of Saddam

So very sorry.

[Tellurian]

284. Th1onein, our deepest sympathy..

to you and your family..

[Haole Girl]

285. I wish I knew of something to say...

..something to comfort you.

I'm very sorry for your loss.

They are so young--most of the men and women sent over to Iraq and Afghanistan--
it's just so sad...so senseless.

Hugs to you and your family... :hug: :hug: :hug:

[progressoid]

286. So terribly sorry.

I wish I had better words to console you and your family.

[roguevalley]

287. oh god. oh god. oh god. I am so very, very sorry.

[RobbinsdaleDem]

288. I am so sorry.

[Batgirl]

289. I'm so sorry for your personal loss of a loved one

and for all of the death and horror that has resulted from our country being run by this current group of sociopaths.

The Unfeeling President by E.L. Doctorow

"He does not mourn. He doesn't understand why he should mourn. He is satisfied during the course of a speech written for him to look solemn for a moment and speak of the brave young Americans who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country.

But you study him, you look into his eyes and know he dissembles an emotion which he does not feel in the depths of his being because he has no capacity for it. He does not feel a personal responsibility for the 1,000 dead young men and women who wanted to be what they could be.

They come to his desk not as youngsters with mothers and fathers or wives and children who will suffer to the end of their days a terribly torn fabric of familial relationships and the inconsolable remembrance of aborted life . . . they come to his desk as a political liability, which is why the press is not permitted to photograph the arrival of their coffins from Iraq.

How then can he mourn? To mourn is to express regret and he regrets nothing. He does not regret that his reason for going to war was, as he knew, unsubstantiated by the facts. He does not regret that his bungled plan for the war's aftermath has made of his mission-accomplished a disaster. He does not regret that, rather than controlling terrorism, his war in Iraq has licensed it. So he never mourns for the dead and crippled youngsters who have fought this war of his choice."

edited to add, this excerpt is from Sept. 04, the U.S. military death toll has nearly tripled since then.

[Critters2]

290. My deepest, deepest sympathies. Your whole family is in my prayers. nt

[buddysmellgood]

291. For what it's worth, I fear the fate of my own nephews who are not even

in the service. I read your post, I see their faces, I wipe real tears. May your nephew rest in peace.
I am so very sorry we could not stop this.

[Initech]

292. How very sad.

That's horrible. It's a reason why war sucks.

[deadparrot]

293. Good lord.

:hug: to you and yours. I'm sure it's small comfort, but believe me that my heart goes out to you.

:puke:

:cry:

[demobabe]

294. I'm so sorry to hear this...

Every dead soldier in this illegal and unconscionable war is a CURSE on G.W. Bush's black heart. He's cursed nearly 3000 times over from this war, even more so from 911, Afghanistan, New Orleans, and cursed from the tens of thousands (is it hundreds now?) of Iraqi civilians he's killed.

He will always be reviled the world over, and he is doomed by his karma.

Sending healing prayers/energy to you and your family.

[donheld]

295. I'm so sorry for this loss

and the loss of all the others. Yes, may the chicken hawks rot in hell.

[banjosareunderrated]

296. condolences for your terrible loss

[barb162]

297. I am very , very sorry

[ClayZ]

298. How many deaths will it take 'till they know,

that too many people have died?

Put bu$h in Jail now!

[Skittles]

299. I am sorry, so very sorry

sometimes I don't think I could hate bush inc any more but now I know I can

[orleans]

301. i'm sorry to hear this--my heart goes out to your family....

i know words are hardly a comfort, especially on a computer screen, but it's all i have--all we have--to give

[Crunchy Frog]

302. I'm so sorry Th1onein.

On top of all the other tragedy your family has suffered through, I don't know how you can bear this. May Bush be damned to Hell.:grr:

[malaise]

303. Deepest sympathy

I share your views 100%

[radfringe]

304. you and your family are in my thoughts...

[goddess40]

305. I'm so sorry to hear about your loss

and one more reason to investigate and punish those responsible for this illegal, immoral and unjust invasion of Iraq.

[Zookeeper]

306. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your nephew, Nathan.

My heart aches for you and your family, Th1onein. :cry:

When I see the photos of the young people we have lost to this lousy war, I feel they belonged to ALL of us. It is time for all Americans to take these deaths personally and demand that it STOP.

I wish you and your family healing and strength. :hug:

[cui bono]

307. That's terrible. May he rest in peace.

[Philosoraptor]

308. My niece goes to Iraq next month. My deepest sympathies.

God damn bush and his monster masters.

[chknltl]

309. We share your pain...

...and we here especially share your justified HATE for the bush family evil empire. bush needs to be used as an example for all future American presidents: We did not stand behind him nor did we stand for his bad policies and in the end he stood trial. Citizens of America, if you treasure Democracy: IMPEACH THAT BASTARD

[JVS]

310. Sorry to hear this

:-(

[colorado_ufo]

311. So very sorry.

Peace to your family.

[rumpel]

312. It feels like there is a hole in my heart

one more son, brother, nephew not coming home to their family.

I am so sorry.

Much love and hugs to you and your family
and thank you Nathan.

[BikeWriter]

313. I'm damned sorry to hear that, Neighbor. I salute the Troop.

[Swamp Rat]

314. I wish I could help take the pain away.

:hug: :cry: :hug:

Peace to you and yours Th1onein. :hug:

[OneBlueSky]

315. sincere condolances to you and your family . . . I agree with you . . .

he needs to be removed from office to prevent even more death and destruction -- not only in Iraq, but probably soon in Iran as well . . .

[Wetzelbill]

316. My condolences

My cousin is over there, as are a few friends and a kid I used to coach in wrestling. I worry all the time, I could not even imagine how I would feel if something happened to any of them. I have no words, other than I'm sorry and I wish you and your family the best in this difficult time.

[Jeanette in FL]

317. My sympathy to you and your family

There is nothing that else that can be said.

[fujiyama]

318. I'm so sorry

I think I remember you mentioning a while back that he was going.

How awful. Where was he stationed?


My condolences to you and his immediate family.

[ps1074]

319. I am so sorry for your loss

My deepest condolences... :hug:

[uberllama42]

320. My sincerest condolences

I eagerly await the prosecution of George Bush and his cronies.

[Vinca]

321. I'm so sorry for your loss. This insanity has to stop. nt

[MinneapolisMatt]

322. I'm so terribly sorry for your loss.

:(

[VenusRising]

324. My deepest sympathy.

You have my heartfelt regrets. Prayers and peace to your family.

:cry: :cry:

:hug:

[terrya]

325. I am so sorry for your very sad loss.

I hate this stupid, pointless fucking war. And I hate George W. Bush for making it happen and for causing the loss of dear friends and family members such as your nephew.

My heart goes out to you and your family. I'm very sorry for your loss, friend.

[Callalily]

326. I'm speechless!

Sending hugs and healing strength. :hug:

[billyskank]

327. .

:(

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

328. I am so sorry for what happened.

I honestly don't know what to say. No matter what I say will not take away the pain in your heart at this time. I send you :hug: and a candle in your nephew's honor. He was only a baby ... I am so sorry.

[EFerrari]

329. I hate him, too, for the children.

:hug:

[LaurenG]

330. My deepest condolences Th1onein

I am so terribly sorry for the loss of your nephew. :hug:

[matcom]

331. shit

shit x(

[pecwae]

332. Holding all of Nathan's family

and friends in my heart. I know the numbness and surreality that is tearing the family to shreds. My very sincere condolences for this senseless loss.

[bklyncowgirl]

333. I am so very sorry for your loss.

It's times like these that I hope that the Christian notion of punishment for one's sins after death is true. Bush and his gang of war criminals should burn in the lowest circles of hell.

[Phentex]

334. I'm so sorry.

It hurts so bad. My heart goes out to you. :hug:

[Mad_Dem_X]

335. Please accept my condolences

:cry: :hug:

[mtnester]

336. Blessings of comfort to Nate's family, and a prayer for peace

for the entire world, in his memory.

So sad.

[B Calm]

337. Hanging is too humane for this bastard. My sympathies for your family.

[Maine-ah]

338. omg

our thoughts are with you and your family. :hug:

[LynneSin]

339. (((((((hugs))))))))

It's so easy to start a war when it is not your children who will be serving it

Your family will be in my prayers along with the hope that Bush sees the light and ends this war soon!

[jackster]

340. you and your family are in my heart

I wish you peace and comfort. And may GWB rot in hell!

[puebloknot]

341. Words fail me.

I can't imagine your loss. I'm so sorry.

[deepthought42]

342. Goddammit... *HUGS*

And Damn B*** to the worst possible torment....

:hug:

[AwakeAtLast]

343. So, so sorry Th1onein

I have no idea how you feel, but I do know what it is like to fear for your loved one every day while they are over there. I can not imagine how it feels to have your fears realized. Just know that we are here for you and your family!

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[racaulk]

344. I'm so sorry.

I just don't have the words to express my sympathy. Although I can't imagine the pain you and your family are going through, I share your rage at *. Your loss is exactly why this war needs to end...NOW...before any more of our brave soldiers are lost.

May you and your loved ones find peace. You are in my thoughts.

:hug:

[Lost4words]

345. I am very sorry for your loss! I am disgusted by the waste of lives by *

41 will let dimsom ruin the country before he speaks the truth that we all know about his demon seed. :puke:

[myrna minx]

346. I am so sorry.

:hug: My prayers are with you and your family. :hug:

[Historic NY]

347. I am sorry for your loss.....

please convey it to his parents.

[scarface2004]

348. gwb..

will suck cox in hell!

[LeftishBrit]

349. I am so sorry!!!

My very best thoughts to you and all your family.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

350. Oh God, I'm So Sorry To Hear This. My Thoughts And Prayers Go Out To You And Your Family.

I'm so sorry.

[Generic Other]

351. oh no

so sorry.

[crim son]

352. Your nephew and his sacrifice will be in my thoughts.

I wish there was something I could do for your family. :hug: :hug:

[snappyturtle]

353. I can't imagine anything more awful ........

you have our deepest sympathy. May you know, I too feel the same way you do about *. He has no heart.

[maveric]

354. OMG!! I'm so sorry Th1onein.

I cant find words to say to you now.
I have 3 sons ages 24, 21 and 16. I'll rot in jail before I let them fight bu$h's war fro profit.

My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

[ceile]

355. My condolences, Th1onein.

* will get his...someday. :hug:

[Octafish]

356. Please accept my deepest sympathies, Th1onein.

May the Good Lord bring strength and peace to you and yours.

[photogirl12]

357. I am so sorry.

Please accept my sympathies.

[me b zola]

358. My deepest condolences to you and your family, Th1onein

Peace & comfort to you and your family.


:hug: :cry: :hug:

[Javaman]

359. In Flanders Fields

By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

[Eurobabe]

360. Another senseless loss because of BushCo's LIES

Condolences to your entire family. Words fail me right now. SO many kids killed, wounded physically and mentally for this illegal War and illegal Administration.

Impeachment is ON the table, WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND IT.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

361. My heartfelt sympathy for you and all of your family.

I'm sorry you've lost one dear to you. I'm sorry for all the lives lost in this war.

My heart goes out to you and the other 3000 families that know all too well the pain your suffering.

[butterfly77]

362. My sympathies go out to you and your family...

may God put his arms around you and your family.

[YOY]

363. My deepest condolences to you and all of his family and friends

If there is an afterlife may he be in a better place than the one he left.

[Beam Me Up]

364. I don't know you. I didn't know him. It doesn't matter. Once again,

I'm crying :cry:

It's worse than sad. It is tragic because it was ALL so unnecessary -- except for those who profit from war.

Condolences to you and your family.

[catmandu57]

365. I haven't the words

I'm sorry for your loss.

[lectrobyte]

367. So sorry for your loss.

[Crabby Appleton]

368. Deepest condolences

[Beelzebud]

369. I'm sorry for your loss....

How much longer are we going to put up with this shit...

If the Democrats don't take swift action, and end this insane war, when they take over, then they aren't worth our votes either.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

371. My prayers are with you, your family, and with Nathan.

Take care of yourself, & take care of your sister.

[never cry wolf]

372. My deepest sympathies and I share your anger

Christmas eve is always spent with my wife's family. She has 5 brothers and sisters, 4 of whom are in the area. I have 6 nephews and 2 nieces between the ages of 17 and 23 plus my own 17 y.o. daughter and 21 y.o. son.

The two most successful b-i-l's are bush supporters. Not hard core but just basically uninformed. We have gotten into in the past but it's best to keep to sports and such. Between them they have 5 military age kids and of course none are in, and I hope that stays that way.

We'll get those bush bastards eventually.

[Stockholm]

373. My deepest condolences Th1onein

I am so sorry for your loss...

[PuraVidaDreamin]

374. I cry with you

The peace movement will not let his death
be in vain. We must and will work harder
to stop this insanity.

[Stargazer09]

375. I am so sorry for your loss (n/t)

[Fovea]

376. I am so very sad to hear this.

My your family work through the suffering as completely as possible. Again, please give our condolences to the family.

And as for your feelings about GWB, boy do I hear you.

The definition of medieval criminal theory was that crime required punishment, not for the miscreant, but for other miscreants. The classic phrase for it is 'ritualized terror, directed at the human body.'

But actually, it was directed at the body politic. Normally, I am agin it, but Dubya has bent and broken civil law that goes back to a time before King John Lackland. I speak here not just of habeas corpus, but of the medical necessity defense. Which SCOTUS, doing the will of POTUS said was no longer valid law regarding pot.

I am hard pressed to come up with an appropriate punishment for the whole spectrum of horror that does not involve the miscreant screaming in terror and agony for the rest of his life. I figure 30 days on the water board is a good place to start. Remember, it isn't torture, if you are doing it to terrorists and persons of interest.

[BlueEyedSon]

377. k&r&RIP

:cry:

[Babsbrain]

378. Damn him!

I feel your pain. The time has come for all of us to stop the silent screaming...step away from your keyboard....say something, do something, anything!!! No matter how small, start now. Don't let them frighten you into silence. Write something on your car. Get a bumper sticker. Organize a rally. NOW!! For the love of God, let's do SOMETHING!! It's time.

[ScreamingMeemie]

379. Th1onein...

I am so sorry for your loss, and your family's loss. We will make this administration pay for the willfull squandering of so many of our young people's brilliant futures. God, my heart hurts so to read of your loss.

[Th1onein]

382. I want vengeance.

This criminal must be impeached and made to stand trial for his crimes. He is guilty of the murder of thousands upon thousands of innocents.

[uppityperson]

381. my sincere condolences

damn mrbush and cheney and all the rest of them. damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn

[Ophelia Rising]

383. Sending lots of light and love your way......

[JudyM]

384. Such an immeasurable loss. Sharing your sorrow...

[applegrove]

385. I'm so sorry.

[Judi Lynn]

386. It will be hard to overcome the grief AND the rage. The loss must be

unbearable, made so much more fiendish considering how close he was to returning. My god.

You'll certainly be in our thoughts. Hope the concern of many, many people may help in keeping you from feeling you are isolated with this hideous blow to a very young man.

[achtung_circus]

387. Prayers and white light. nt

[latebloomer]

388. A horrible, senseless tragedy

I am so sad for you and your family.

Love and Light-

lb

[AlwaysQuestion]

389. I truly am sorry

I am incredibly sorry that your nephew died in Junior's horrific illegal war. Your nephew's parents will never recover their loss as you know only too well. So all that one can do in your nephew's case is to utter the most pathetic, over-rated, useless, effete words in the English language, "I'm sorry." And what will change? Absolutely nothing. You will still grieve. His parents will grieve forever and life will go on. And so it is with this in mind that I turn to the living:

Unless your own shores are being imminently threatened, your sons and daughters and our sons and daughters do not belong in a war anywhere in the world. We must each do our part to take glory out of war. We must preach to our sons and daughters from the time they are tiny tots that war is initiated by the wicked for ill gains (including WWII) but fought by the ignorant, the poor, and by the easily taken in--that war can only be tolerated in SELF-DEFENSE. We must get to their wee heads with our message before mainstream media, state, school and church get to their heads with theirs.

We must tell them that should they decide to join the military unless they can know for sure that their services will be used only for peacetime efforts (e.g., civil emergencies, prevention of war), that you will not countenance their actions, nor will you be proud of them going abroad to kill the children of other parents. You must also stress upon them that no medal would ever be accepted by you in the event of their death in an illegal war. You must impress upon them that they will have your full support including monetary support in order that they may dodge any draft imposed upon them by the state--that you will never recognize the state's right to enslave them against their will.

The military is built on conformity, blind obedience, self effacement, peer pressure, mean spiritedness, inhumaneness, heaps of propaganda and lies, all of which is covered up by lots and lots of pomp and ceremony all the better to make it all look attractive from the outside. Spit and polish; smoke and mirrors. As for patriotism, someone please elaborate on what that inane word means.


We have been brainwashed to believe that because war has been going on for probably as long as man has been on this earth that it is therefore an essential and inevitable part of life. When you buy into this, you become part of perpetuating war and are admitting that man has no capacity to make ground breaking changes. So much for the advancement of mankind, moon walking not to the contrary.

The dreadful truth is that by far the majority buy the message that war is a given. And I say if any of you believe this then should you lose a loved one due to war, just chalk it up to the inevitability of war and move on with your lives. After all, if war is inevitable then someone's got to fight in them, so hone your skills at acceptance and rejoice in the patriotism shown by your son or daughter.

If on the other hand, you have done everything humanly possible to keep your sons and daughters out of the military, then while I and so many others can offer you sympathy, the result will be the same--a needless loss of a precious one. Mothers and fathers from around the world feel the very same hurt. And it is in that knowledge that you and other moms and dads must reach out world wide to put a halt to the crime of the rich and powerful for the benefit of the rich and powerful.

And don't anyone bother to respond in disagreement, as I shan't countenance anyone who can rationalize war as a necessary evil. I've heard it all before. It was rubbish then and rubbish it continues to be As for ridicule, ha! Save your head the time and your fingers the pounding.

[2bfree]

390. I am so sorry.

:( I hope Bush pays for this war and all of the deaths it has caused.

[NastyRiffraff]

391. Oh god, I'm crying and enraged..

I can't tell you how sorry I am for your loss. My prayers are with you and your family, and for Nathan.

I'm glad you and your family are fighters. No pain is too great for Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the murderers in this administration. May they all rot in hell...starting on earth.

[liberalla]

392. Oh my god. I'm so sorry to hear this...

It's just so wrong. Everything is f'd up.

I'm very sorry for the loss of this young man Nathan, and the pain it brings your family.

[michreject]

393. Could you help me out please

There are several of us on this site that are Patriot Guard Riders. I have eleven pending funerals in my state, which is Michigan. I have checked both the PGR and the Department of Defense looking for information on your Nephews funeral service. Both sites list all deaths of active duty military personnel. I can't locate your Nephews name.

http://www.patriotguard.org/Home/tabid/53/Default.aspx

http://www.defenselink.mil/Releases/Release.aspx

[Th1onein]

435. We STILL don't know when his body will be here.

Unbelievable. I called today and asked where I can send flowers, because I'm four states away and won't be able to get there in time (well, now, maybe I will be able to) and they tell me that the body is still not here.

[Cha]

394. I am very sorry, Th1onein..

My heart goes out to you and your nephew's family and friends. :hug:

bush sent those soldiers to die and be maimed based on his LIES.

The only Justice would be if he had to go to Iraq and face the horror he has created.

[Bonescrat]

395. I'll play a song on my guitar...

I don't really believe in the afterlife but maybe he can hear me...

Requiescat in Pace

[SunDrop23]

396. Sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you and your family.

RIP.

[WillyT]

397. I Don't Know What To Say...

:cry:

[antigop]

398. So very, very sorry.

I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

[Giant Robot]

399. I can only say I hope you find peace and comfort

during this horrific time. Please accept my deepest condolences. Wishing you love and light right now.

[FyurFly]

400. My deepest sympathy n/t

[Left Is Write]

401. I'm so sorry. My thoughts and prayers for your family.

[SPKrazy]

402. I'm So Sorry Th1onein

you've had a rough year

that sucks, just sucks!

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Porcupine]

403. killing Saddam was not worth even this one.

.

[Bozita]

404. Sincere condolences to you and your family

Damn the warmongers!

[Hekate]

405. I am so terribly sorry for your loss. May time bring your family peace. nt

[earlybelle]

406. Condolences to you and your family. eom

[Kurovski]

407. No words tonight.

Just a sorrowful kick so that others may know.

[renate]

408. Oh God, I am so sorry

You must have known him as a baby.
Certainly his parents did.... They would have gone through fire to keep him safe, if they could have.

I am just so sorry.

Rest in peace, Nathan Given.

[Norwood]

410. I'm so sorry for your loss

There are no words, I send my deepest sympathy and condolensces to you and your family. This war needs to end now :(

[Greg Helmsley]

411. Are you sure his name is Nathan Givens?

I can't find it on defenselink.mil.

[michreject]

412. I can't find his name anywhere

I have checked every resource available and there is no listing of anyone in the military by that name getting killed.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

[uppityperson]

413. try here, bunch of names not released yet from the last week.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

http://icasualties.org/oif/prdDetails.aspx?hndRef=12-2006
http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

[michreject]

414. Once the family has been notified

Then the info is posted on DoD site. I'm beginning to think that this whole thing was made up.

[Greg Helmsley]

415. So you think this is shinanaghans?

I'll still keep an open mind though.

[michreject]

420. I'm trying to

Something just isn't right. Maybe screwed up paperwork. I belong to the Patriot Guard and we get notified of all military deaths.

[Blue Diadem]

422. Here's the link to the newspaper article with Nathan's name

and I've read elsewhere that the AP has about 15 more deaths that the DOD is reporting..so I don't know what's up with the DOD.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4435076.html

21-year-old Dickinson soldier killed in Iraq

A 21-year-old soldier from Dickinson was killed Wednesday in Iraq, according to published reports.

Nathaniel Given, a soldier with the Army's 10th Mountain Infantry, is the fifth Galveston County resident to be killed in the Iraq war, according to the Galveston County Daily News.

[michreject]

429. Thanks for the link

I do offer my sincere heartfelt condolences to the family of Nathaniel Given.

[Th1onein]

440. Are you sure you're not making them up?

Those condolences? They sure sound made up to me, michreject. One minute you're saying that something is fishy here, because YOU can't find my nephew's name on the DOD list (who cares what YOU can find or not find?) and then you're offering your condolences. Something fishy there, I'd say.

Don't bother us with your condolences. And don't bother our family, period. We don't need anything from people like you.

[Mind_your_head]

418. The OP was posted on 12/27/06

There are still 6 people who's names have not been released yet that died on either 12/26/06 or 12/27/06.

I have no idea how quickly immediate families are notified.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

[michreject]

419. At least 24 to 48 hours

Reports on the 27th actually occured on the 25th or 26th. If the family has been told, It would be listed on the DoD site.

[uppityperson]

421. posted on 27th, be patient.

[Greg Helmsley]

424. It is official

http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=51769491d0b48286

Deep sympathies.

[michreject]

427. I am.

I have 8 funerals in the next 10 days. It could be a slow report because of the number of casualties in the past week.

[Th1onein]

439. Pssst! Hey, michreject!

You're NOT invited to come to this one, okay? I don't like being called a liar and judging from your comments, you're not the kind of person we want around when we are mourning the loss of this child. We have no need of you. Stay away.

[Greg Helmsley]

441. No need to dread

Evidence is found, you told the truth. Please understand the supicion. There are people on both sides of the fence (Us and republicans) that will say anything to get attention. Which is sad. The suspicion is over. You are on the correct. Once again, I give great sympathies to you the Nathan's family.

[Blue Diadem]

442. Go back to your board and tell

your buddies that evidence was found OK?

How in the world can you and Michreject come here and be so cruel to someone who has just lost their nephew.

[Robbien]

444. You are lower then low

You and Michreject are so despicable that it dirties DU to even have you read much less post here.

How dare you question the death of a DUer's relative. How dare you say it is not okay unless YOU and Michreject are given proof that your beloved George W. Bush's war has killed another living being.

You guys are sick.

[Kingshakabobo]

455. What suspicion? Now you ADMIT there was suspicion on your part?

I thought you were only trying to confirm accuracy of his name? That's what you said yesterday. You are full of shit.

[Kingshakabobo]

426. Are you going to be "man" enough to apologize?

[michreject]

430. ..........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2986623&mesg_id=3009422

[Th1onein]

445. Let me give you a little tip, michreject:

It's real simple. It's called decent behavior. Now, I KNOW you think you're real important and all that, being a member of "the Patriot Guard," and all, but you know, there comes a time when your importance is overshadowed by the need for common decency. You do NOT suggest that someone is lying, in a PUBLIC FORUM, simply because YOU can't find evidence to support their claim WHEN THEY ARE TELLING YOU THAT THEIR FAMILY MEMBER HAS DIED. You accept what they are saying, at face value, and assume that maybe, just maybe, the fault in not being able to find evidence on the websites that you frequent might lie with you or your sources. In other words, out of common decency, you withhold judgement. Just a tip, Michreject.

And, by the way, your condolences are NOT accepted. They are very obviously NOT sincere.

And, by the way, do NOT show up, either you or anyone from your group, at OUR family members' funeral. We don't want you there. We will guard our own.

[uppityperson]

431. could you please change that offensive post to "polite" enough?

wtf does having external gonads have to do with manners? thanks

[Kingshakabobo]

432. It doesn't. I put "man" in quotes for a reason.

[Th1onein]

437. HEY! Look up my profile, okay?

I'm Melanie Childers and I've been posting on here for years. You really think I'd sink that low? To post some bullshit about my nephew getting killed? Are you out of your mind?

I don't know why he's not on the DOD site. I, personally, don't give a shit whether his name is on your site, or their site, or any site, or not. I don't have to prove a thing to you!

They came to his mother's house and told her he was dead. That's quite good enough for me, even if it's not good enough for you!

It's unbelievable that I'd have to defend myself over some idiot saying, "Hey, duh, he's not on THIS website, so this must be a hoax, duh." Yeah, right. I wish it WERE a hoax.

Geezus. I'm amazed.

[Yvonne]

461. Nathaniel Given

Nathaniel is my nephew. He was killed on 12/27/06 1 1/2 hrs after he talked to my sister and her husband. He is 21 yrs of age. He turned 21 on 9/14/06 while he was in Iraq. My sister and her husband were notified of his death less than 12 hrs after it happened.

Any questions??!!

If you do a google search I'm sure everyone can verify that WE are NOT making this up!! I haven't cried for over a week for no reason at all!!

He arrived home last night and the funeral is tomorrow at Carnes Funeral Home in Texas City.

The Patriot Guard has already finalized everything for tomorrow.

[ecstatic]

416. What type of question is that? How can someone not be sure

of his/her own nephew's name?

[Greg Helmsley]

417. Nothing wrong with being accurate

Grief can really make a person confused, she might have more than one nephew but just got the names mixed up.

[brentspeak]

443. That's a disingenuous response

There have been lots of DU posters who've started phony stories and rumors, so it's understandable there might be skepticism over someone claiming his/her relative was killed in Iraq. That's where you were coming from with your other post; you were suggesting she was lying. You should just admit that.

[Greg Helmsley]

448. I never said she was lying

You were on the money til that "That's where you were coming from with your other post; you were suggesting she was lying. You should just admit that."

[brentspeak]

457. Yeah, I know you didn't say she was lying

You didn't "say" it in the same way that Clinton said it depends on what the mean of "is" is.

[Gormy Cuss]

447. Plenty wrong with making a baseless accusation

and then dancing around with excuses rather than making an apology to the OP because your suspicion was without merit. You assumed that the name would be published already, you assumed inaccurately, and you lack either the manners or maturity to admit that you posted a hurtful and incorrect speculation.

[Th1onein]

438. His name is Nathan Given. What's "mixed up" about that?

I TOLD you his name! What kind of person is it that would think so low of their fellow human beings that they would believe that someone would make something like this up? What a jerk.

[Th1onein]

436. Nathaniel Given?

Check that.

[shadowknows69]

423. I just found out

That Nathan was stationed at Fort Drum with the 10th. I've probably met him. Again I am so, so sorry.

[NC_Nurse]

425. I am so sorry for your loss.

May he rest in peace. Your family has my condolences.

[lovuian]

428. So Sorry for your family Its so sad

The Iraq War sucks

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

433. I am so sorry. My thoughts are with you. May he rest in peace.

:grouphug:

[RetroLounge]

434. Oh God, I am so sorry for this loss

my deepest condolensces...

and damn GWB to hell...

RL

[demobabe]

446. Article about Nathan Given

Local news story about Nathan:

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou061231_tnt_soliderdies.63774380.html

[Th1onein]

449. To "The Patriot Guards"

Pay attention, now, because this might serve you well later on:

The DOD requires that the family sign a LOT of papers before they will release the name to the public. Understand, now, why YOUR searches of online databases might just turn up with the names of the fallen in Iraq a little later than we, the family, know about them? Gosh! Isn't that illuminating!

Next time you want to call someone a liar about such a sacred topic, THINK.

And, by the way, I still don't have my apology from you, which I've asked for, both publicly and privately. Nor do I have your assurance that none of your group will turn up at my nephew's funeral. We do NOT need your ilk to "protect us" from the Fred Phelps' group. We are quite big enough (and I ain't talking about being fat, bud) to do that ourselves.

[Lone_Hawk]

450. With Deepest Condolences From The Patriot Guard Riders

Dear Ms. Childlers:

I am e-mailing you because my girlfriend is on the National Support Staff of the Patriot Guard Riders and forwarded me your e-mail. It is New Years Eve, and I have no idea when you would get a response from anyone else.

You are correct, the family is notified first, and public notification is not made until the family authorizes the DoD to release the name of your fallen loved one. It is normal for the family to learn of the loss of their loved one long before anyone else learns about it or it is published through the normal channels.

The Patriot Guard Riders is an all volunteer group made up of people from all walks of life and all political beliefs. All of our members are passionate about honoring the loss of all of our soldiers. All of them joined the PGR for a variety of reasons. But the very nature of our organization means that we have members who are not experienced enough to know the way the DoD handles the loss of one of our soldiers.

Please accept my deepest apology for the post that hurt you deeply. Questioning anyone about the loss of a loved one is totally inappropriate under any circumstances. I can not find a member of the Patriot Guard Riders by the username of the person who questioned you on Democratic Underground, and I have read the thread here in its entirety. There are hundreds of PGR members from Michigan alone. Though I’m sure that our National Captain will try to find out who he or she is when she sees your e-mail and mine.

I hope that you and your family will accept my apology on behalf of the Patriot Guard Riders and will understand that this was not a situation caused by our organization.

Our mission is to show our respect for the ultimate sacrifice made by your nephew. We will only attend the services of your nephew at the invitation of your family. As have the many users on Democratic Underground expressed their deepest condolences for you and your family’s loss, I hope that you will accept mine and those of the Patriot Guard Riders.

At the time that I sent this e-mail to you, I hadn’t discovered the trick for registering at the site, so, now that I have, I am posting this publicly.

Respectfully Yours,

Stephen Maley
Capitol Region Captain
Patriot Guard Riders

[Th1onein]

451. Thank you very much, Stephen.

I am beginning to think that, maybe, the poster who identified himself as being a member of the Patriot Guard, was not a member at all. Ironic, isn't it? He came here, lying about his membership in your organization, in order to accuse me of lying about my nephew's death.

Strange world we live in.

[Lone_Hawk]

452. Thank You

Ms. Childers,

Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing one way or the other. If the poster sees my post, then they will have access to my e-mail address as it is publicly available on the PGR site and may can contact me directly. If they are a PGR member, I expect that they would do so. If they aren't, then I will probably never here from them.

Thank you very much for your understanding. All of us in the PGR live by the belief that "Never Again" will one of ours fall and not be recognized for their ultimate sacrifice. We would be honored to be invited by your family to show our respects. If your family wishes our presence, then I would be honored to pass your request and your family's representatives contact information on to the State Captain who would honor your request via private e-mail. If there is anything we can do for you or your family in this time of sadness, please feel free to contact me.

Respectfully Yours,

Stephen Maley
Capitol Region Captain
Patriot Guard Riders

[Th1onein]

453. Thank you, again, Stephen.

I appreciate your decency, and your thoughtfulness.

[Trajan]

454. Stephen Maley

I personally want to thank you for your very decent response regarding the tragic loss of Nathanial Givens and the confusion surrounding this loss in these communications. Your respect for the family is obvious, and your heart is certainly in the right place.

Thank You and the PGR for all you do ...

Ms. Childers,

I have not yet said so, so may I now tell you how heartbroken my family is for your loss.

PLEASE accept our heartfelt condolences, and may you and your family find solace in the hard days ahead. Thoughts of Nathan's sacrifice will be in our hearts forever.

You have given more than you should have to, and we thank Nathan for his selflessness in these trying times .... I grieve your loss as my own ...

[ariellyn]

456. I am both sorry for your loss and sorry about the harassment here.

I hope that your family heals from this tragic loss.

[WarNoMore]

458. I'm so terribly sorry for your loss.

My condolences to you and your family.

[mdmc]

459. My thought and prayers are with you

may all war enablers know what you know.

[Imagevision]

460. Th1onein, everytime I read another soldier was killed my eyes well up in tears like they were my own

my heart and prayers go out to you

[Bonescrat]

463. From Washington Post's Faces of the Fallen page...

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/dates/2006/dec/27/nathaniel-a-given/