So They're Tapping Our Phones Because????

[KharmaTrain]

Maybe I missed a bunch of news but according to preznit propaganda wanker, Trent Duffy:

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2005&m=December&x=20051227155915eaifas0.6796991&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

MR. DUFFY: This is a limited program. This is not about monitoring phone calls designed to arrange Little League practice or what to bring to a potluck dinner. These are designed to monitor calls from very bad people to very bad people who have a history of blowing up commuter trains, weddings, and churches. And the President believes that he has the authority -- and he does -- under the Constitution to do this limited program. The Congress has been briefed. It is fully in line with the Constitution and also with protecting American civil liberties.

Now hold it a second...what did I miss? Has Al Queda blown up a church or wedding somewhere in the United States lately? Has there been a plot uncovered that had Al Zarqawi was calling for the latest train schedules? Did we somehow uncover thousands...errr...hundreds...err...any Al Queda operatives inside the United States in the past three years??? In the world according to Duffy we sure must have...or that this regime must have had some very reliable information that compelled them to violate the FISA laws repeatedly.

And while we're at it...what real threat has Al Queda posed to this country? Does it have an air force the size of the Japanese in 1941 or a Navy of the Germans (with those nasty Enigma machines)? This is one of the justifications this regime appears to be fabricating to pry further into our private lives.

But, of course, we're "at war". Now, maybe I missed this one as well...when did Congress issue that Declaration of War???

Looks like the manure is being spread for another Rovian lawn of astroturfing...

Happy New Year...

[Danieljay]

1. you didn't miss anything, they did. Its US who blew up weddings and

churchs...I mean mosques. Silly me. I'm not sure we've bombed any trains lately. War is stupid.

[NanceGreggs]

2. They're trying to distract us from what's REALLY going on ...

... which is the fact that the government is waging war on the Little League and potluck dinners.

[Oceansaway]

8. LoL...n/t

[shraby]

3. How can they NOT monitor phone calls about

the little league if they are monitoring all in order to pick out the baddies?

[sui generis]

4. they're looking for probable cause

kind of at odds with the whole idea behind reasonable search and seizure . . .

oh well. The constitution was just a suggestion anyway. . .

[Posteritatis]

5. Well, clearly...

...people who have a history of blowing up commuter trains, weddings, and churches...

...the surveillance ordered by the President is necessary in order to maintain close tabs on the United States Air Force.

[ixion]

6. if we're at war, show me the Articles of War

as proof.

There are no such Articles, because we are not really at war, because you cannot declare war on an abstraction, in this case, 'Terror', or 'Drugs'.


And who are they watching? Quakers? Bicycle groups? Environmental Groups? Anti-war protesters? These people have caused not one iota of terror, and yet there has been proof of such monitoring going on.

[KharmaTrain]

7. Let's Put This One Forward!!

Just like Charlie Rangel did when he called the Chickenhawk's bluff on re-instituting the draft (he forced the Repugnicans to go on record to say they wouldn't re-start it)...it's time to force this issue.

C'mon...asshat has majorities in both houses...he could easily push through a Declaration of War, could he? Wouldn't EVERY Repugnican be willing to go on record to turn over to this regime the dictatorial powers it's already exercizing? If this is such a bad "war", let's stop screwing around and get the job done...put it to those who claim this is the case. Again...get them on record about this war and do it as many times as we can before the elections!!

Plus, could someone explain to me how one can be at war against a word? I can see fighting the British or the Confederates or the North Vietnamese, but who is the "Terror"???

Peace...

[quiet.american]

9. Do American adults really have the mentality of four-year-olds?

These are designed to monitor calls from very bad people to very bad people who have a history of blowing up commuter trains, weddings, and churches.

Why is everything Bushco says couched in these childish terms? Is this how all the president's men have to explain things to him so he can comprehend?

[C_U_L8R]

10. Burden of Proof ???

Let's see the evidence that Bush is in fact spying "only on bad guys".

Where's Bush's Enemies List ?????

[KharmaTrain]

11. Who Are The 33??

Or the ones this regime has admitted spying on. I haven't heard who these people are...why they had to be spied upon in such a manor that the FISA laws just weren't sufficient...what they were planning and how these illegal intrusions into domestic lives had any effect on saving any American lives.

These abstracts and distortions have to be called on. Yes...they, not us, need to be be forced to prove why such draconian and illegal actions were warranted. This should be priority one before any Democrat casts any vote or even shows up for a quorum next January!

Peace...