Do you come to DU looking for a fight?

[Wonk]

[rucky]

1. You gotta problem with that?! n/t

[Monkeyman]

2. Not unless the PTSD kick in

[SmokingJacket]

3. There's always a good one brewing somewhere!

Unfortunately, more often than not they're locked before I get there!

[TahitiNut]

4. Other: Drafted.

:rofl:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. Tossed you a bone TahitiNut

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2958356&mesg_id=2958380

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. I think the forum avails itself

of opportunity for free speech. I come here for many reasons. Information -- opinion -- release -- friendship -- boredom. Must admit I can get carried away, but will always try my damnedest(sic) to look at all sides.

[Quantess]

32. "I think the forum avails itself of opportunity for free speech."

No it doesn't.

I've had posts deleted, even though it seemed like a good idea to post what I did, at the time.

People get kicked off DU every day. Don't assume otherwise.

[nini]

7. I honestly believe some people do

Disagreements are normal in a discussion forum, but there are definitely some that I wonder if their only intent is to simply stir up shit here. Actually, there are a few that I am convinced do just that - they need real lives.

[Bobbieo]

20. Agree with nini that there are some people on this site who seem to

wait for the right moment to post a "Put Down" on a person or topic. They actually seem to live for that moment, too.

[Quantess]

33. It goes with the territory, I suppose.

The anonymity of internet message board posting invites normal people to go beyond their face-to-face guidelines of common sense rules of human interaction.

[stillcool]

8. sometimes I can't help myself...

especially when the post is particularly vile or idiotic. Often a pattern emerges, where I notice the same poster(s) stirring up the pot...then I don't respond..I kind of feel sorry for the person.

[silverojo]

9. I come for the news, not to fight

If I happen to disagree with someone (or a few people), I'll post a response or two to make my position clear...but then I try not to post anything else on that same thread. The way I see it, once I've said my piece, I should move on...because 1) I'm not going to convince anyone to give up their own beliefs, 2) I wouldn't appreciate anyone trying to do that to me, and 3) when a handful of people get into a big argument on a thread, it's annoying (so I don't want to participate in that sort of thing).

BTW, I may be a moderate, but I'm not "wishy-washy" by any means. I have very strong views; I just don't believe in shoving them down other people's throats. If I were into that, I'd become a fundie Christian and annoy everyone I meet, LOL.

[Bobbieo]

17. Like, Silverojo, I come here for information and news

and try to stay away from arguments. Life is just too short to fight with people on this site or anyplace else. I am also am a moderate but I have my own agenda and God help anyone who tries to change it.

[porphyrian]

10. Not really.

I used to, but now I've got enough people primed to argue just about any time I want, and more frequently when I don't. I guess some people just can't accept the fact that I'm always right, and I don't always have the energy to explain how wrong they are.

[givemebackmycountry]

11. I come here for a couple of reasons...

But to participate in a fight isn't one of them.
I come here for LBN.

Late Breaking News.

If your looking to socialize and get into a pissing match, there are far better places.
And because I have that mindset, I seek out other DU'ers that think like me.

And there are plenty of them.

[pitohui]

12. heh

i always vow i will not get involved in any more "spirited discussions" but somehow it happens

it's the nature of the internet i suppose

[comradebillyboy]

13. sometime a little flaming

is fun.

[htuttle]

14. I come here to hunt Orc

My keyboard starts glowing whenever there's one posting on a thread I'm reading.

[otherlander]

15. I keep telling myself...

that I'm going to go and say something reasonable in the middle of one of the flamewars, but then I read how stupid all the attacks are, and think, "Oh, what's the use?" and I just wind up leaving and going to the Lounge instead.

[nam78_two]

16. I usually groan inwardly when I see something

I am going to have to post a testy response to...I go ahead and do it anyway sometimes.

I am fairly non-confrontational on and offline. Mostly I am a coward with a thin skin :-|....

I never understood the concept of the online "tiger" who is timid in real life and so on. I feel just as hurt if someone says something slighting to me online as if it happened in real life even if this is anonymous etc.

Lots of fights around here nowadays though :-/...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. Nope. I Come Here For Accuracy, Integrity, Fairness, Tolerance, Logical Deduction & Sound Reasoning

My battles tend to occur from my defending those concepts and doing my best to ensure they're upheld.

I'm not looking for fights, I just have a problem with statements rooted in ignorance, inaccuracy, lack of logic, lack of reasoning, vindictiveness, lunacy, desire to disrupt, intolerance, bigotry, sexism, pettiness, irrationality, blatant lies, blatant deceit, hypocrisy, flawed premise or grossly flawed conclusion. Generally speaking almost every single one of my battles can be traced to my dislike of the concepts above.

I've always been a firm believer in factual accuracy and logical reality. Just drives me NUTS when I see some things here so contrary to those ideals. But I do my best to set the record straight, where applicable. :)

But thankfully there are so many threads and posts on DU that are of the utmost intelligence, logic and factual basis, that at the end of the day are the sole reason I come here. There is so much one can learn on DU, every single day. (LBN friggin rocks! I never post in there, but I'm an AVID reader of it!)

[omega minimo]

41. Aggressive badgering is not "defending"

"My battles tend to occur from my defending those concepts and doing my best to ensure they're upheld."

"I'm not looking for fights, I just have a problem with statements..... Just drives me NUTS when I see some things here so contrary to those ideals."

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. So Speaketh The Master Of Badgering. I'd Say You're Correct.

That's why I defend so well against the badgering.

:hi:

[omega minimo]

43. " I Just Find It A Sign Of Disrespect And Illegitamacy When One Criticizes Something Without Any"

"I Just Find It A Sign Of Disrespect And Illegitimacy When One Criticizes Something Without Any

"reason given. It portrays an attitude of just criticizing merely for the sake of criticizing, with no logical basis for doing so other than just trying to cause trouble.

"I gave you a chance to show an intent that differed than that stated above or a premise with merit, but now I am left only with what I stated above as the most likely intent based on your refusal to provide any reason for having distaste with the OP.

"And you have every right to disagree with the OP. I just personally find it to be highly annoying and rude when someone does so with such few words and no explanation or counter-argument. It does nothing to propagate discussion and only serves to cause animosity."





Whatever.
The next time someone says "whatever," if you honestly intend to "defend" rather than antagonize, maybe reconsider your approach.


Happy Holidays and Peace, MindCrime. May you find an appropriate outlet for all that righteous indignation. :hug:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. Speaking Of Antagonism, I'll Provide Analogous Definition:

Antagonism: When one intentionally seeks out another poster within a thread and posts personal attacks towards them without any provocation, while not replying to the OP itself or to any other post within the thread, while seemingly only coming into the thread specifically to provoke the one poster and in which the actor replies with purposeful intent for such provocation, whilst upon further reply attempts additional provocation merely for the sake of trying to start a sub-thread flame war.

Please turn your finger around sometime, ok?

And no thanks on the holiday wishes.

[omega minimo]

46. Your mind’s so incisive. Hope you find that positive outlet whilst reconsidering the approach

Good luck. Goodbye :hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. Yes, My Mind's "Remarkably Clear And Direct; Sharp; Keen". Thanks For The Accurate Compliment.

And as stated in my original post in this thread, I already have my positive outlet; defending those concepts I spoke of. I feel no need to reconsider any approach as I'm perfectly content with that which I've taken.

I'd prefer, however, if you'd spend the time worrying about yourself as opposed to myself. I can handle myself just fine, since like you've finally admitted, I'm incisive (remarkably clear and direct; sharp; keen).

Goodbye to you as well. :hi:

[omega minimo]

48. Good bye, Fang

:kick:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

50. Good bye, Molar.

:shrug:

[Fridays Child]

19. This place used to be, mainly, shelter from the storm, for me.

But that's when it was a much newer and smaller place. Now, it feels far less personal, here, but it's still the best place on the Internet to find meaningful articles.

[Patchuli]

23. It still can be for me

as long as I remember how different progressives are from each other and that I need to respect that.

[Swamp Rat]

21. None of the above!

:D You talking to me? :D

[treestar]

22. Of course not

One just occasionally gets caught up in it.

[Trajan]

24. No, Other .... Explanation following

Socialization is a continuous dicussion, which sometimes delves into controversial subject matter ....

The art of politics is debate ..... BILLIONS of human beings, BILLIONS of mouths, BILLIONS of opinions .....

Somehow, they tend to disagree ..... 'Magine that ! .... IF you think you are right, you may interject ... and that is how consensus is either built or lost .... Other than establishing decent debating rules, there is no getting around it ... it HAS to be ....

Like most people here, I will not shy from a debate, if I have an opinion on the subject, I will express it : I expect the same from most everyone else ...

Think of DU as a family dinner .....

NOW you get the picture ....

[Bobbie Jo]

25. Our fight ISN'T here my friends....

Yeah, I know I'm a newb, but when I found DU I shouted (to myself of course) SANITY EXISTS!

I come to DU for hope, and inspiration to fight for change. While I may be looking for a fight, it certainly isn't here.

:kick:

[AlienAvatar]

26. I've been in a few and I don't like it

For me, I'm finding that arguing a point on a message board is time consuming, energy draining, and, ultimately, futile.

I come here looking for like minded people discussing interesting topics with all their varying points of view. I come looking for comfort really. Sometimes I'll see something I heartily disagree with and I'll post my thoughts, but most of the time I just sigh, and move on.

I'm not looking to aggravate or be aggravated. Five minutes in Freeperville is enough to get me foaming at the mouth, but I would never think of taking 10 seconds to respond to something there. It would be utterly pointless. My remedy for freeper induced rabies is to come here. I come here to GD mostly to find confirmation and ideas, not fights. I've never had a fight of any kind in my life, physical or verbal, that didn't leave me with troubling regrets afterward. Some more, some less, but all resulted in regrets. I don't like 'em, but, too often, I find a way to git in 'em.

[Lilith Velkor]

27. I came for the punch and pie

I stayed for La Resistance. :)

[dave_p]

28. No, there's work to be done

If anyone does take strong exception to anything I write, please keep it nice - I'm quite happy to engage with differing points of view, that way we may all learn something we woke up not being aware of.

[Wonk]

30. Welcome to DU, dave_p :)

:hi:

[LSK]

29. no, I came here to learn and to get away from kool-aid drinkers

When I came here, we just invaded a country that did nothing to us and a lot of people supported this travesty. DU was a sanctuary of sane people. Sometimes I wonder if those people are still around.

When it comes to fights here, I sometimes will say my piece, sometimes I will have a little give and take, but you have to learn to accept that there is a point where all you are doing is beating each others brains in and not getting through. Sometimes you just have to let it go.

And sometimes there are threads that I do not think are as important and/or you know are flamebait and you just avoid them.

[Raine]

31. No but

if I'm in a pissy mood and someone jumps on me I'll get into it with them. I won't take crap off of someone when I was merely stating an opinion. x(

[annabanana]

34. I'm guessing that YOU DO. Right wonk?. . . . n/t

[Name removed]

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[KoKo]

35. I give "Wonk" a pass..He/She has been here since 2002....seen alot of bad times...

we all have a "bad night or two or more" in that time span. :shrug:

[sniffa]

37. every day

bring it!!

[Conan_The_Barbarian]

38. Sometimes I write a post but never actually post it

When I see something that makes me cringe sometimes I'll indulge myself but most of the times I write something down, that I notice all the holes in the argument and fill them in. Then notice more and more problems and eventually I just say fuck it because I have other things I'd rather be doing.

[KoKo]

39. No....but sometimes one's "principles" cross with anothers"principles"

and it becomes sort of a "core of belief thing."

A Challenge....But, I've only been over to FR maybe 10 times since I've been here on DU which is since 2001...and it was only because there was some poster here who said I just had to read some post over there.

Every time I went I felt sick that I had gone to that link from what I saw over there. I don't understand why some feel that site should be something linked here or that we should care what goes on over there..I don't think getting involved with Freep lives helps our Democratic cause. There's enough personal drama here amongst DU'ers that who would need to get involved in Feeper lives. :shrug: just my humble opinion...for what it's worth.

[alcibiades_mystery]

40. You know how I roll...

:-)

[HeeBGBz]

44. Actually, no, I pick my fights elsewhere

I just come here for ammo.

[scarletwoman]

49. "I just come here for ammo." -- Great line! (nt)