Mike Malloy talking of Impeachment now--saying that it is NOT up to

[rodeodance]

Reid and Pelosi to say YES or NO but the people.

[rodeodance]

1. He is NOT happy with them (I am listening via the NET)

[sabbat hunter]

2. he is wrong

impeachment is given to the congress for a reason. to make sure it isn't used wantonly.

we cannot just jump into impeachment hearings, that is a sure loser.

do thorough investigations, special committees with subpoena power.

impeachment is a path that is not to be taken lightly and jumped into just because the democrats hold a majority in both houses. right now if they tried to impeach bush and cheney it would lose and only raise bush's ratings.

bring everything out into the open, so everyone knows what is going on. that is what happened with watergate. it is what should be done now.

[Vincardog]

3. OK SH how about we investigate and impeach all of the evil scum in January?

Restoring the USA to the rule of law is not now and will never by a loosing proposition.

[sabbat hunter]

4. first off

why the name calling?

second i am saying we need to act rational with impeachment. we need to get all the charges out in the open so there is no doubt about it. if we tried to get impeachment january 1, it would lose and the democratic party would be voted out of office en masse in 08. you really think that we can do a true investigation, impeach and vote guilty in less than a month?

we cannot let hatred for the current regime cloud our judgement on this.



I dont like bush either, but we cannot jump into these things. to do so only leads to make things worse.

[Vincardog]

5. What part of investigate did you not understand? If the Democratic congress fails to do its' duty

that is the surest way to guarantee the future is lost.
What did I do that was name calling?

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. The congress already said they are doing that

Trumman like hearings...

Once that is done, and it will... the crap will float to the surface

Now on principle if they don't do that... read the preface of the declaration.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. What name calling? And I guess only the republicans can jump into impeachment

but when there is legitimate reasons to impeach, the Democrats have to tread lightly? What bullshit is that? This isn't about hatred for the current regime, though there is plenty of that and well deserved, it's about all illegal crap the current regime has pulled, which is clearly out in the open.

[rodeodance]

9. yes of course investigations FIRST.

[knight_of_the_star]

10. We have to prepare the ground upon which we will advance

If we try to move forward into this position we will be doing EXACTLY what the GOP said we would do and it would destroy us in the eyes of the voters. We have to investigate the crap out of these pigs and convict them in the court of public opinion first. That way when we acutally move to impeach him in the court of the Senate, it won't matter if we win or lose, we will have already won the most important part of the fight in the eyes of the people. That way, even if Bush isn't technically impeached, we can take down Bush, the GOP, and the entire movement that spawned him in one blow instead of just taking out Nixon or the guys convicted in Iran-Contra. We CANNOT let them have human sacrifices to appease the public, we have to rip this thing out at the roots and salt the earth that grew it so never again will we face this danger.

[sabbat hunter]

15. the republicans were

completely wrong to jump to impeachment. impeachment isnt supposed to be about revenge. Plus there are plenty of people out there that dont think that the bush regime has done anything illegal. We have to show to everyone what laws were broken, when and by whom.


as far as the name calling, perhaps in the subject like of your previous post "OK SH"

what exactly does SH stand for? I personally can think of only two. s**thead and sadaam hussien. and i doubt you were calling me saddam.

[Vincardog]

16. SH = sabbat hunter Excusssse MEEEEEEEEEE

[sabbat hunter]

23. my error

i apologize :)

[Vincardog]

25. IT's OK not a big deal

[SammyWinstonJack]

26. LOL!

:spank:

[Ilsa]

6. ITA and second it. And have a lovely Yule. nt

[Scout1071]

17. You are both wrong and right.

impeachment is given to the congress for a reason. to make sure it isn't used wantonly.

You are correct. And Bush has committed the highest crimes and misdemeanors of any President....EVER.

we cannot just jump into impeachment hearings, that is a sure loser.

Wrong-O. I might have agreed with you a few months ago (although I still believed it is the legal, proper thing to do) but times have changed. Even the Joint Chiefs of Staff are telling him to piss off. Dare I say that even my Republican friends are starting to grumble a little louder. The evidence is overwhelming and we should proceed in the swiftest possible manner. I don't necessarily want Nancy Pelosi for 2 years, so ultimately I feel we need to find a way for a special election with her at temporary control. 30 days to campaign - no more, no less. Problems doing this under the Constitution? Well, then we need to correct it. Give the people more power for a change. Our founding fathers are spinning in their graves right now just watching them destroy our Democracy under the guise of patriotism. Desperate times call for desperate measures. We must take control.

impeachment is a path that is not to be taken lightly and jumped into just because the democrats hold a majority in both houses. right now if they tried to impeach bush and cheney it would lose and only raise bush's ratings.

Not after people start testifying en masse against them. Did Nixon's polls go up? No, because he was charged with subverting Democracy. Clinton was just partisan bullshit and everyone knew it - that is why his went up. More and more people will be angry with Bush as they hear the truth.

bring everything out into the open, so everyone knows what is going on. that is what happened with watergate. it is what should be done now.

Right again!

Honestly, I think that when we start putting him and Cheney under oath, it won't take long. They have publicly and privately lied about so many things that I think they will resign before they have to answer too many hard questions. When the Baker's, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all the others are seemingly, quietly turning against Bush, somebody will have that moment when they go to Bush and tell him it's over.

[gulfcoastliberal]

21. Just the way Clinton was imepached?

The sham that was, yet the repukes were mainly hailed as heros, kept their majority in the next election and got gw installed. Impeachment is a good thing. Most of the investigations into the illegality of his regime are well documented. You can't say we need to check to see if he broke the law, when it is documented he has.

[sabbat hunter]

24. actually

clintons personal ratings went up. impeachment is NOT a good thing. it is a huge step, not one to be taken lightly or with haste.

a proper investigation will bring these illegal acts by the regime.

btw they really arent well documented.....yet. most are just allegations at this point. we need to get the proof out in the open for all to see. just like in watergate.


why rush to impeachment. with a proper investigation we will be able to catch more wrongdoing.

[knight_of_the_star]

11. Investigate THEN Impeach

You don't send suspects to trial without a proper investigation, we need to find the actual body, the murder weapon, and the fingerprints. We can't put this before the jury of the people without proper evidence or they won't convict and will laugh us out of power again in two years.

[tridim]

12. Maybe that's exactly what Pelosi and Reid want

Maybe they want the people to demand it. That would certainly strengthen the case.

[Kelly Rupert]

13. A nice sentiment, but an incorrect one.

It is up to a majority of the House whether to impeach, not "the people." "The people" may vote. Everything else is up to the Congress.

[bbgrunt]

14. I agree with Malloy. The BIG problem with this bunch

of dry powder wusses is that they always keep their powder dry. I believe them when they say that impeachment is "off the table" for them. They may allow investigations but they have refused to show any cajones.....why the senate even rolled over in unison for iran-contra gates without so much as a doubt. What gives any of you any confidence that this group of don't rock the boat dems has ANY intention of really investigating with impeachment in mind????

[KittyWampus]

18. Malloy must not be familiar with our government being a Representative Democracy

[BeachBuckeye]

19. I ask you

Representative of who? The only answer to that question is "The People". We didn't send them to Congress to think for us. We sent them to represent our views.

[blues90]

20. The part that troubles me is why ?

I understand why Pelosi said impeachment was off the table since she was pressed by Katy Couric for an answer , I don;t understand why Conyers jumped in and agreed .

When people hear it's off the table this seems to raise doubt at least in my mind .

I understand they need to investigate but I don't understand why they would play political games if that is what they are doing .

Also I thought the main reason so many dems got out to vote was to end this Iraq occupation which part of this would be to remove bush .

There is alot that needs to be done and I don;t think they will be able to impeach both bush and cheney beofre the 2 years is up . I hope they can but there is a long involved process to go through and alot of proof to be gotten from unwilling hands .

[BuyingThyme]

22. kcik