Does anyone really wonder about these food poisionings being

[blues90]

Part of a larger hidden issue like some sort of testing rather than being misshandled inspections or processing ?

I heard a caller on last thursdays Malloy show who brought up these issues and I recall back in the 50's the govenment having cars with a sort of gas to be released in certain areas to see how many people in a given area would be affected . This was a documentary I saw years ago but have not seen anything like this in years .

I wonder just how much we really know and how much we discount as truth or possibilities . We simply accept what little we are told and hope we are never affected , even then you can never be certain of what your next meal will bring into your life .

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Put down the tinfoil.

[jobycom]

2. No.

I chalk it up to relaxed standards of the FDA and a complete lack of oversight of corporations under the Bush administration.

[lectrobyte]

3. Perhaps. I've read about the gov. doing various tests before on

the public at large. The Google will turn up more.

http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl?sid=05/07/13/1357237

[ileus]

9. There's no question this is a rove trick...

[butterfly77]

4. Maybe terrorism...

[Warpy]

5. No. I think the problem is the LACK of testing and oversight

since all food regs have been relaxed or ignored under the FDA and USDA stacked with GOP appointees.

E. coli is from fecal contamination. There are only a few strains that make us sick. Composting manure before it's used is the way to prevent transmission. My guess is that they're incompletely composting what they're putting on the fields. It's a lot cheaper that way.

Either we'll get rid of the Repugs, or we'll have to resign ourselves to cooking all our food thoroughly.

I'll miss my salads, slaws and fresh berries.

[Avalux]

6. No.

Even entertaining your idea, e. coli wouldn't be the agent. With technology, media, better tracking methods - outbreaks are reported more frequently than they would have been in the past and coupled with misshandled processing/inspections, I can understand why someone might think something fishy is going on. E. coli that makes humans sick comes from the gut of a cow; so it's found in the soil and runoff can contaminate - just the way it is.

[unpossibles]

15. but most of the problems of runoff occur because of modern

factory farming. Sorry, but it creates tons of polluntants. If anything maybe these poisonings (in addition to just getting more press) are a wake up call to one more thing we should be doing a little better.

[Avalux]

16. Absolutely - I agree completely.

Less land, more people.....factory farms and food farms too close to each other....bound to cause problems. I won't hold my breath for the issue to be addressed though. :hi:

[Virginia Dare]

7. I predict a tightening of food inspection very soon...

partly due to the fact that the Democrats will be in control of Congress, but mostly due to the fact that the restaurant lobby will be demanding it. If the bad pub continues, and it starts to effect the bottom line, the stockholders aren't happy, so changes will be made. Most restaurants in this country are pieces of corporate conglomerations.

[diamidue]

17. Maybe, but....

There was a huge article in this morning's paper on a renewed push by food processers for mandatory irradiation of vegetables, lunch meats, etc. in order to solve the problem. Implementing such a move would cost the big growers a large initial sum - but it would almost cripple small farmers.

Wasn't irradiation one of the goals of CODEX, too?

That is my best guess on how the FDA will respond. Not a fan of irradiation by the way.

[kestrel91316]

19. Tin foil hat time: Could somebody who WANTS irradiation

to become widespread (for profit) be sabotaging the food supply so the public will ultimately demand it (irradiation)???

[Virginia Dare]

23. They could...

and normally I can tinfoil with the best of them, but in this case I think it is the result of corporations regulating themselves, and becoming too greedy at the expense of their workers and the consumer.

[kestrel91316]

25. I tend to agree, but sometimes I just get the tiniest

creepy feeling about this stuff.................

[johnnie]

8. I think it's intentional

I just am not quite sure on who is doing it. I don't think it is Govt.

[MnFats]

10. they did once spray a neighborhood in so. mpls...

...with a supposedly 'harmless' marker chemical.
it was just to see how substances dispersed in different weather conditions. hey, it was the '50s and the commies were behind every tree.
quite harmless. nothing to worry about.
this is from govt. documents, not tinfoil hatters.

[kestrel91316]

22. IIRC there was also some biological warfare testing in the

60s wherein Serratia marcescens, a normally harmless bacteria, was sprayed around (in northern Cal??) to follow air drift patterns.........but some people actually got sick from the bacteria due to existing immunosuppressive disease........

Anybody else remember this?
Am I remembering something that never happened?

[Nite Owl]

11. I see it as an effect of

corporatism. Relax any standards, regs, for their corporate buddies at the expense of the people. We the people are supposed to keep trusting the corporations to do the right thing because if they don't it would effect their bottom line. That doesn't seem to be working out very well for us.

[GoneOffShore]

14. And this is why we no longer shop for food at the supermarket

We buy from the Amish in Reading Terminal and the Fair Food Stand there. During the summer we're part of a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) and in the winter Winter Harvest. Everytime we eat non organic, non organic we have stomach problems.

The whole issue here is the reduced oversight that all of us have over the food supply. When the spinach ecoli scare happened I was buying from my local guy, with no problems.

[xultar]

12. No. People are sloppy and companies aren't doing what they should do to protect

the food. Plus using cow shit as fertilizer isn't a good idea.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. One of my coworkers thinks its al Qaeda

and that poisoning us all through fast food and restaurants is their next attack.

[sweetheart]

18. Corporations experiment with chemicals on the population

We are indoctrinated to accept all chemical 'improvements'.
http://www.fluoridation.com/calgaryh.htm

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Oy.

Food poisoning is down over the past few years. The media's just covering it more because it's a sensationalist story.

[WernhamHogg]

21. Greed

Of course I'm only speaking from my personal experience, but the owners of the particular fast food restaurant that I use to work at would go to ANY lengths to save money. They really didn't care if they had a kitchen full of employees who were too sick to be working -- much less working with food. The thing that mattered was that they were able to save a few bucks by not having the employees who were not ill and who were more than willing to work overtime -- working.

[valerief]

24. I'm sure the govt is still doing Tusk egee-type experiments on us.

I think this is probably just industry corner-cutting, however.

But don't remove your tin foil. We should all be wearing it to hone our Liedar when it comes to the gummint.