Cheney Says Dems Can't Stop Bush's War With Iran

[Jon8503]

By Patriot Daily, Section Diaries
Posted on Sun Nov 19, 2006 at 01:47:58 PM EST
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Seymour Hersh has a new report about how the Bush Team plan to prevent Congress from interfering with any actions Bush wants to take against Iran, even if this action violates legislation passed by Democrats to prevent funding of regime change in Iran. Does anyone remember Iran-Contra scandal?

A month before the midterms, Cheney told participants of a national-security discussion that if the Democrats won control of Congress, it would not prevent the Bush Team from proceeding to take action against Iran:

(rest of article @ link below):

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/11/19/144758/22

[HereSince1628]

1. Of course, it's why they brought in Gates.

Only this time we've seen the act. Fool us once shame on you, fool me twice.....You can't fool me twice.

[ROakes1019]

8. Gates on Iran war

He just said in his confirmation hearing that Bush did not have authority to go into war against Iran based on the act passed back in '02 to go into Iraq. It's on record; it's under oath; that's solid.

[Kolesar]

11. I am glad somebody is paying attention.

:hi:

[HereSince1628]

12. So was the law banning the US from funding the Contras.

Talk means nothing with these people. It's a Straussian principle that governing requires lying.

That.Is.Solid.
.

[TheModernTerrorist]

21. actually, from what I hear

he wasn't under oath... cuz Warner is a fucking tool.

[goforit]

25. Yet don't forget...All skull n bone alumni "will do" above the law.

And who the hell would arrest them?

[SammyWinstonJack]

26. I thought gates didn't testify under oath today?

:shrug:

[eridani]

28. Nope, Gates was NOT under oath

You only have to go under oath if you're a Democrat talking about your sex life.

[JudyM]

32. I think it wasn't under oath. Didn't Warner let him slide in without swearing him? n/t

[roguevalley]

29. has cheney ever been right about anything? I don't think so. he's

a true borman nazi.

[savemefromdumbya]

2. I thought Cheney was going to take on Iran single-handed

one shot and Iran ooops/Iraq will be gone?

[sam sarrha]

3. so they are going to hire Bl*ckwater mercenaries with all the heroin money they are getting out of

Afghanistan.. to fight the war

[jwirr]

16. That is a pretty good summation of what they were doing in the

Iran/Contra wars. Can they get by with it again? Who knows?

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. Rest assured, all this chaos they created is financing some evil scheme.

[theoldman]

5. Yes they can. They can shut off the flow of money.

That is what happened to Nixon during the Vietnam war.

[napi21]

6. I wonder if all that hasn't changed since then. Have you noticed

Cheney has been MIA since Rummy was fired? That of course is closely connected to a much bigger win for Dems on Nov. 7th. I actually opened this thread while saying to myself...don't tell me the Devil finally surfaced!"

Nobody is happy or smiling at eh WH these days, and I thinkthey're realizing that many of the things they wanted to do just aren't going to happen.

[catmandu57]

20. There is a picture in this forum

of baker laying down the law to dead eye, it's a thing of beauty.

[liberal N proud]

7. Impeachment and jail would stop them from waging anymore wars

We must stop the evil empire before they cause any more harm to this world.

[Peace Patriot]

10. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Time to put impeachment BACK on

the table, Nancy! --if that's how he's going to play it.

Have things changed? Not sure. I have a feeling that Rumsfeld's exit was not due to the midterm elections, but rather to Rumsfeld legal problems that might be looming (Plamegate? 9/11? The REAL reasons for torture and rendition? Some dirty nuke business?--could be a number of things). On the other hand, he is still Sec of Defense. What if Bush (Cheney) rips up his resignation letter and calls him back in? What if the Bush Cartel can't get its replacement boy approved? I wouldn't dismiss Cheney's statements all that easily (as out of date, or out of touch with reality). If Cheney does throw the gauntlet down, will this new Democratic Congress represent us--the American people--at long last, or will it continue to represent the war profiteers and the corporate rulers? It's an open question, I think. And you could make a pretty good case that the new Congress has been carefully crafted and shaped, by the corporate rulers' "trade secret" vote counting software, to lose that fight.

On the positive side, it appears that some kind of split has developed AMONG the corporate rulers--the Iraq War has become "bad for business" maybe? (--as happened with the Vietnam War). Or, they think it will be easier to stomp all over Mexican peasants, or the Andean democracies (Bolivia, Eduador, Venezuela), to get THEIR oil, than it is in the fractitious (and well-armed) Middle East? (--just contemplate, for a moment, this reported Bush Cartel purchase of 100,000 acres in Paraguay--where our tax dollars have funded a state-of-the-art military air base--as a possible launching pad for a corporate resource war in the Andes, calling upon the Colombian military, which the Bushites have lavished $600 million on (also our tax dollars) this year alone. Are the corporate rulers tired of Iraq?). Anyway, I was struck by those pedophile scandals unleashed on the Bushites, by the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, four weeks before the midterms. Very strange. Some rumble going on. All is not well in BushWorld. I think we can't yet see behind the orchestrated front. (China maybe stepping in, re Iran? I dunno.) (They hold a lot of the paper on our debt, and they get a lot of their oil from Iran. So, OUR corporate rulers may have to pay them deference--and call off the Bush dogs?).

[bullimiami]

9. defund it. if he defies them thsy should have the votes to impeach.

the people will demand it.

[HereSince1628]

14. This guy has a history of getting around 'defunding'

Defunding would just make his old criminal skills more valuable to W.

[Jacobin]

13. That's an impeachable offense right there

Impeach Cheney first. With a 19 percent approval rating, what's the downside?

[nolabels]

17. What is the downside?

That would make * the POTUS :banghead:

[Jacobin]

18. Well, maybe it'd make Jim Baker president

I don't think little lord pissypants would even TRY being a real prezdint

[lovuian]

15. Mr Cheney is not the president and is not a dictator

and yes they will stop him... and can stop him

[conscious evolution]

19. ... and can stop him

And are working on stopping him right now!

Hang tight people.Come January cheney is going down!
Investigators already have everything they need to nail his ass to the wall.

[LSK]

22. Cheney still thinks theres WMD in Iraq

He is certifiably insane.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

23. he still has the order forms.

so it's understandable.

[Olney Blue]

24. Cheney is on the hunt again- for another war.

[majorjohn]

27. Someone should slap him! n/t

[bdamomma]

30. cheney should just go back in his coffin.

what a sick sick abusive man.

[spacelady]

31. Hey Dick - Wanna Bet?