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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:36 PM
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Lee Hamilton (Dem Guru) Says...America must accept "Dirty Money."
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 05:51 PM by KoKo01
Anyone hear "9/11" & "Iraq Study Commission" Co-Chair Lee Hamilton in a penal discussion Moderated by Tom Daschle at "Center for American Progress" on C-Span?

Shocking to me. Lee Hamilton (in his "pragmatist mode") when asked a question about whether Dubai should run our Ports says: "I was unhappy that Congress took the stand it did on this issue. Americans need to realize that our debt is owned by the Chinese and Japanese and others and that we have to depend on foreign investment to survive. We don't have any other way out of this. We need to accept dirty money to get around this problem"

Shocking! The "Dem Consiglieri" they put on "Iran Contra, 9/11 Commission and Iraq Commmission" is nothing but a SELL OUT of America! He tries to pretend he's a "visionary" and that we "need to deal with the world we have and not the one we wish to have" and thats why we need to use ..HIS QUOTE:
"Dirty Money" to keep America afloat.

SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:37 PM
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1. Yes, imho, you have that exactly right. n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:57 PM
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7. Thank You...my head was Exploding listening to this..and it's good to
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 05:58 PM by KoKo01
know that one person agrees.

He said other "stuff" that was equally disturbing in the "Q&A" time...but I can't get into that because it would make me unable to function. :-(
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:38 PM
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2. "Dem Guru" says YOU.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:40 PM
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3. Lee Hamilton is not a "Democratic Guru".
Hamilton is an establishment mule.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:02 PM
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9. Yeah...I know. I was trying to be Fair....He's on three of the biggest Studies
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 06:02 PM by KoKo01
we've done starting with "Iran Contra" and seems to be the Fave Shill Dem that folks think is like Kissinger on the Right for Dems...and that's why I used "Guru." He is someones "Guru"/"Mentor," though.....even if he isn't mine or yours. :-(

He's "out to lunch" as far as I'm concerned. Cold Warrior who is "Past His Prime!"
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:41 PM
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4. My friend Comrade J or
aka Joyce Lynn prepared a brilliant analysis of the in's and the out's of those who were on the
9/11 committee. She has been presenting it at Truth for 9/11 hearings across the country every six months or so 9Toronto,Chicago, San Francisco, etc.)

Believe you might find all her research by going to "google" and typing in "Joyce Lynn" plus "9/11 chair" + keane
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:59 PM
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8. thanks...will do the Google. n/t
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:13 PM
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20. I can't find any of Comrade j's stuff on the Web
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 01:14 PM by truedelphi
It may be that she is very cautious these days

However here is a video worth looking at:

http://jeremymorrison.com/wtcplane.html


And by googling the below expressions you will hear a rather fun discussion of how
more nd more normaland everyday people are doubting major Bush concepts like "terrorism" and the idea that nineteen MUslims armed with boxcutters brought down our country:

Barrie Zwicker Speaks @ Winnipeg 9/11 Truth Event
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:45 PM
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5. You don't have to, you could urge the Fed. to print constitutional money like JFK did
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 05:45 PM by spillthebeans

Dubia should run ports?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:01 PM
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16. Yep. End the Fed. Take control of our own monetary supply back.
Reinstate tariffs so that American made goods are sold on a level-playing field here at home. Support unions. Stop employers from hiring illegal immigrants.

Lee Hamilton is SCUM and he can stick his dirty money where the sun don't shine.

:grr:

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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 05:54 PM
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6. What a disgraceful situation we're in. Such terrible crimes have been
committed against us and the entire world. They're buying and selling and pocketing our country itself, and its all part of that "new world order" Poppy told us about way back when. They do it right under our noses. None of this had to happen. None of it.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:02 PM
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10. I Forgot Who Said This
But it was said that if you need a coverup,call lee Hamilton.
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:23 PM
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22. Probably Bartcop.
He has this really cool graphic of "Lee's Whitewash Services."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:04 PM
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11. Poppy's "New World Order." It was Bush Dynasty's "New World Order"
and it is failing like sand washing out under one's feet at the shore...
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:32 PM
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24. I'm wondering how you reach the conclusion that it is failing?
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 01:32 PM by greyhound1966
From my side of the field, it looks like the "world corporatists" are the only players that are doing well. Better in fact, than they've ever done before. They win, everybody else looses.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:08 PM
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12. How did Lee Hamilton ever become a democrat? America does not
...ever need foreign investments to survive. Where in the hell did he ever get that notion? He needs to read the U.S. Constitution, the part where it says:

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlei.html
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:29 PM
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18. He was saying: paraphrase..."We've already given away the Country so
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 10:30 PM by KoKo01
we need to be happy that folks like 'Dubai Ports' are helping us out in our time of need." :-( Dirty Money...he actually said that. He's an old "cold warrior from the past...time for pasture.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:05 PM
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19. Indeed, I did not care for his style during the 9/11 hearings either
...green pastures surrounded by fences.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 12:23 AM
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31. It's like the Iraq War
If we don't borrow more money all the money we've already borrowed will be in vain.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:40 PM
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25. The faction that he works for is so close to their final victory over the
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 01:41 PM by greyhound1966
concept of America that they can taste it, and their greatest fear, that which keeps them awake at night, is that the sheep will realize what is being done to them while there is still time to stop it.

This is the real battle, the only battle. Re:puke:/Democrat, left/right, brown/white, men/women, domestic/foreign, it's all unmitigated bullshit, distractions to keep the sheep occupied while they carry on with the implementation of their scheme.

IT'S ALL ABOUT $$$ AND THE ACCOMPANYING POWER OVER US.
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ftr23532 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:10 PM
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13. the global economy runs on dirty money
and the international financial system is and laundromat that cleans it. And yes, http://fortherecordessays.blogspot.com/2006/11/part-10-look-at-world-of-money_11.html">something is very wrong.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:23 PM
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14. That's EXACTLY the kind of thinking...

that's responsible for where we find ourselves today. It's that 'way business is done' political mindset that has to change first.

I'm not very familiar with Hamilton ... but based on that position, along with his failure to react immediately and publicly to the 'Path to 911' fiasco, leave him with no credibility ... in my estimation.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:43 PM
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15. You do not accept corruption, to get around corruption.
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 06:49 PM by SimpleTrend
You accept corruption when you have no intention of changing.

It ties in with election fraud. A GOP that should have RICO applied to it. A criminal Corporate element that rules us (and that exists as greater than nations).

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Edited due to misquote, which was deleted.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 07:59 PM
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17. corporatists are sunk very deep into the leadership
of america period -- whether you'r talking about dems or the republick party.
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selfdestructive Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:14 PM
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21. at least he's honest...
there is something to be said for that much at least.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:26 PM
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23. Lee Hamilton needs to be permanently retired from politicking.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:44 PM
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26. I don't agree with what he says about Dubai running our ports,
but Hamilton does have a point. I've done business in Asia for the last nine years, and a certain amount of corruption is part of the process. That's just the way it is. The point being - if I want to do business in Asia, I have to play by their rules.

And Hamilton's point is basically the same - Bush's policies have ceded the playing field to other countries, most notably Japan and China - it's not our field anymore, and we don't get to say how the game is played if it's not our field...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:21 PM
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27. How it came to this...is what Hamilton doesn't address. I'm sure he's as
culpable as the rest who always appear on these Commissions that are supposedly independent even though they are stacked with the same folks who had a hand in giving our country away to those with "Dirty Money."
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:42 PM
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28. yeah, Hamilton always seems to be appointed to these
"bipartisan" commissions 'cause he can be counted on to take the company line. He's not one of my favorite people.

But, it was an honest statement, and, if nothing else, it shows how deep the shit we are in is.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:48 PM
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29. The Chinese and Japanese have no problem accepting our "dirty" money.
Lot's of it.

"The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." - V.I. Lenin

The irony is delicious.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:39 PM
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30. That's the BFEE "bipartisanship" for you-there's the family values
that come before democracy or America, now known as HOMELAND(TM).
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