Dean Should Not Be DNC Chairman. He Should Be The 2008 Nominee

[Yavin4]

Dean was right about the war.
Dean was right about the capture of Saddam would not mean a more secure Iraq.
Dean was right about pulling out the troops from Iraq.
Dean was right about the 50 state strategy.

In a fair world, Dean/Feingold would be the perfect ticket to lead America.

[Fridays Child]

1. I will not argue with that. You know what also would be awesome?

[Demoiselle]

9. And yes and yes!!!

I was just going to post Gore/Dean.

[tridim]

34. That bumper sticker sent chills up my spine

:thumbsup: Gore/Dean is the perfect ticket for 08!

[tavalon]

36. I hadn't read down yet when I formed a thought in my head

I had for quite a time been a Gore/Feingold fan but Feingold made it fairly clear he isn't going there so I sort of let that one slip away but when I was reading this, I thought of Gore/Dean and then I saw your post. Great minds think alike.

But, damn, there always has to be a but........ I think Dean is doing us a world of good right where he is. I'm sure I wan't Gore running but not as sure about Dean. I mean I'm totally sure that Dean is wonderful but he's uber-wonderful right where he is.

[Fridays Child]

45. That's a good point. And I think Dean agreed not to run in '08, if he...

...became chairman.

Stll, a girl can dream, right? :)

[buddysmellgood]

37. Yep. I'm all over that.

[knitter4democracy]

44. Oh, yeah!

That sounds really good about now.

[Cha]

46. Eeeuuuuu! Dudette!

:popcorn:

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Yes!

The anti-Clinton.

[Jim Sagle]

3. Dean is doing MUCH more as DNC chair than he ever could as Prez.

He's right where the party and the nation need him to be.

[progdonkey]

11. second that...

I was a Deaniac from quite early on, and I'd love to see him as president, but the media would love for him to be a candidate just as much, because they've shown they just love to pick him apart for every little thing. That whole "Dean Scream" thing showed that perfectly; how many of the pundits and "journalists" who were calling him nuts for that scream (at a political rally!) then went to their kids' football games and screamed even louder and more insanely?

Plus, like you say, he's doing perfectly well as the DNC chair. He failed as a candidate (not surprising considering the entire media was out to get him from the beginning) but then gave us the entire damn Congress as DNC chair with his strategy--he didn't just luck out and was chair at the right time; we owe him a lot for this victory--so it's clear that his place is at the helm of the DNC.

I personally would love a Gore-Feingold ticket, though the Gore part of that is less based on political reality than on the wish to have a sort-of "restoration": to have the rightful winner of the 2000 election follow the disasters caused by the guy who stole his presidency in what was essentially a bloodless coup and bring the country back to where it was and is supposed to be. It would be so cool as well to have Bush's eight years of Republican insanity and idiocy bookended by two Dems who did and will do great things for the economy, the environment, and to help restore America's reputation in the world.

[Lefty-Taylor]

4. I agree completely about a Dean/Feingold ticket. But it won't happen, of course.

The media killed Dean in early 2004 because he opposed the monopolization of the TV/newsprint industry. They'd do it again. This doesn't mean that Dean and Feingold wouldn't be the best to lead our beleaguered nation; they would. Keep up the optimism. We can hope.

[threadkillaz]

5. Dean/Webb 08 !

Let's rumble!

[pat_k]

14. We can make it happen (But let's get Bush 'n Cheney impeached first!) nt

[goforit]

6. Here here!!!

[PassingFair]

7. Dean promised he would not use his position of power to position himself

...into power.

They would have to kick him out.

But YES....

A Dean/Feingold or
Dean/Gore
Gore/Dean Ticket

makes me wanna do HANDSPRINGS and CARTWHEELS all
the way to D.C.

I know a LOT of people who would WORK THEIR
ASSES OFF to make that a reality.

[DaveinMD]

8. eh

I've like Howard Dean for about 15 years, since I spent time in Vermont when my wife was the head of the UVM college Dems in the early 90s. However, I don't think he's the best our party can offer as a presidential nominee.

[PassingFair]

10. He may not be the best it *can* offer.

He's the best it *has* offered, in my
memory....

[DaveinMD]

12. I like

Edwards, Clark and Obama more.

[PassingFair]

13. I

don't.

[DaveinMD]

15. different strokes

for different folks.

[PassingFair]

16. Yep.

I'd vote for any one of them, if they
were the nominee.

Clinton, not so much.....

[DaveinMD]

17. I'll vote for any Democrat

the worst Dem is far better than the best Republican if there is such a thing.

[PassingFair]

19. I'll take Jim Jeffords over Joe Lieberman.

Any day of the week.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
I want someone who votes in the people's best
interest.

[DaveinMD]

20. ah

but Jeffords is an Independent Democrat. He left the Republican party. I love Jeffords. Honorable man.

[PassingFair]

21. I'm SAYING, I would have voted for Jeffords

EVEN as a republican.

Especially if he was running against a cur
like Lieberman or Zell Miller.

[DaveinMD]

23. ok

the choices won't be that way in this year's race. I doubt Lieberman is the Democratic presidential nominee. Hell, he might be McCain's veep.

[Nevernose]

27. Sweet Jesus, what a nightmare!

Sorry to jump in on the conversation so late, but McCain/Jeffords? A McCain ticket ALONE will be hard enough to trump. But against McCain/Jeffords?

We could run a Jesus/Moses ticket, with a promised cabinet seat for Mohammed, and still get beat.

[DaveinMD]

28. no no no

McCain-Lieberman. Jeffords is done with politics. He left office because of his health.

[cali]

39. He's not an independent

dem. He's an independent who caucused with the dems. There is a difference. He's also a singularly sweet guy.

[AtomicKitten]

18. I think Dean is biding his time and will run again at some point.

Can't say when, but he's doing his homework now in preparation. I have no doubt about that.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

22. i can deal with that

the hillary/biden pro-war alternative the dlc is trying to foist on us frightens me

[OnionPatch]

24. He was my first choice last time.

I was heartbroken when he dropped out.

I'd love to see him run again.

[BadGimp]

25. AMEN

Seems pretty clear to me.

He was also right about how to re-energize the Democratic party by embracing the internet and those political activists and participants who use the internet. Of course it might be the case that Dean simply benefited from what others saw and capitalized on. Either way he gave the efforts his support, and in doing so ushered in an entirely new era in US and Democratic politics.

[Robeson]

26. I would be happy to support him again...

...:thumbsup:

[Lugnut]

29. No argument here

I'm still a Deaniac.

[William769]

30. Ain't gonna happen.

He, himself will decide not to run.

[Guaranteed]

31. Dean's the best we have. But I'm happy with him as DNC chair.

He gets carte blanche. It's important that we have someone in position within the party that can do what he does.

[caledesi]

32. Agree. Dean is SO smart and a visionary. Wish he would run.

Supported him in 2004, but no they had to choose Kerry.

[FogerRox]

33. The easiest KnR I have done in months.

[eridani]

35. He's just barely started rebuilding the party

When I worked on the Kucinich campaign in 2003-2004, I learned why (despite the fact that Green supporters were always asking him why he just didn't jump ship) Kucinich has stayed a Democrat. I also learned what the long-term effect of disgruntled independents and lefties of various stripes staying out of electoral politics for so long has been. Namely, we just don't have the organizational base and institutional clout to get anywhere with a candidate as far out in front as Kucinich elected, and exactly the same reasoning applies to Dean as well. Dean's leadership as DNC chair is just the beginning of the rebuilding that we need to do before anyone like him will ever have the powerful interlinked networks of local progressive activists and officeholders that is absolutely essential to override the money, the power, and the MSM message domination that currently elects only docile servants of the corporate elite to higher office.

[Cha]

49. I read that Paul Wellstone

said he stayed in the Dem Party because he had "missionsary work" within..that sounds like Kucinich, too.

[BigBearJohn]

38. Gore/Dean resonates with me. They fit perfectly together. I love it!!

[JNelson6563]

40. I disagree

Our party and our country need Dean right where he is. Also, I think he takes his committment to the party building 50 state strategy very seriously and would not duck out of that obligation as some would have him do.

Julie

[skyblue]

41. OOOO and Ned "I'm Jimmy Stewart" Lamont Should Run as VP!!!

;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;(

This is why I stopped listening to Air America Radio.

[bklyncowgirl]

42. I like Dean right where he is.

Howard's doing an excellent job at DNC. He has also committed to DNC through 2008 and therefore, unless ousted, will not be running for anything. If he's ousted, we'll see.

[90-percent]

43. Gore Dean

will get my vote if they run in 2008.

-85% Jimmy

[dogday]

47. I have supported Dean from the beginning

and I still support him. I would also support Feingold for either President or VP....

[charles22]

48. Howard Dean for President!

The man is great and best candidate