Was spygate exposed deliberately in an attempt to shut down the left?

[MoonRiver]

I don't trust the NYT, and am wondering what brought it's editors around to FINALLY exposing this latest outrage. Perhaps Rove cut them free thinking it might intimidate, frighten, and slow down those fighting to bring the Repukes to justice. They have gotten away with worse things than this, and, let's face it, nobody is really surprised it happened. Maybe I'm way off base, but this angle is something I've been pondering.

[emulatorloo]

1. 1. NYT had a new book to promote. 2. Left won't be shut down

everybody on the left assumes Nixon II is spying on them already

[TallahasseeGrannie]

2. Personally I think

the NYT needs to answer for holding on to the information before the election and then suddenly letting it loose now. What's with that?

I don't think Dems need to worry about being tapped. I mean, they probably ARE being tapped..but the violation of the Constitution is way more important to the Democratic Party than any wire tapping evidence that can't be presented in court anyway.

[MoonRiver]

4. The NYT says it was told by the admin. that this involved national

security. But why did they expose it NOW? I find it hard to believe they just suddenly figured out this fascist regime is corrupt to the core, and decided in good conscience to expose them. Could be, but the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. NYT doesn't have a good track record as a purveyor of truth.

[madmark]

6. that's the real issue; the fact they sat on it

[seabeyond]

3. the reporter that was shut down has a book coming out. nyt

put the stories out for two reasons. the one i think even precedes money is that if they didnt report, it would show that they refused to report this law broken by our president.

they had to report before to try to salvage reputation. in my book with plame, wmd and this, they have no credibility.
second, get story out before the book

[Selatius]

5. I think it was revealed because Bush pissed off somebody very powerful

For all we know, the NYT could've held onto the story forever and not let it see the light of day. People like to say Bush Co. is the end-all, be-all of American-style fascism, but I doubt it is. Like the corporatists of the past, there are several factions vying for power.

Just because Bush represents one group of corporatists does not mean he represents all of them, and I think many corporatists are now cursing Bush because he's frightening the population and causing more of them to wake up instead of fall asleep. Angry people are harder to control than sleeping ones.

[wishlist]

7. The spying revelations could motivate some people to be more active

Most of us who have already been stepping up to the plate writing letters to the editor and letters to our elected reps will not be intimidated but instead will feel the need to speak out even more. There may even be some people who haven't bothered to speak out publicly or actively participate in politics before, but this may be the breaking point that motivates them to get more involved. The more we all voice our objections both privately and publicly, the less chance of intimidation.

[MoonRiver]

8. I believe you are correct.

But I wonder if Rove mistakenly thought he might scare the adm's critics into submission.

[Coastie for Truth]

12. I just sent my check off to the ACLU -

and bought both Marx and an English language Koran from Amazon - on the web. See how long that takes to go into my FBI dossier (along with 5400 DU appends). :)

[KansDem]

9. Could it be the New York Times is seeking redemption?

NAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!! :crazy:

[bobbieinok]

10. answer of many to spygate "only those doing wrong will object" n/t

[Coastie for Truth]

11. A secret has a "critical mass"

Any "soft" secret (release of which doesn't risk American lives, just political reputations) in Washington has a "critical mass." Once enough people know it, it "seeps out" - then it just explodes like a chain reaction and "everybody knows it."

One can argue that the NYT was playing both sides - holding back until after the rumors seeped - but before the explosion.

(You didn't catch the rumors - you're just not with it :shrug: ).