Put that SOB in JAIL NOW! Defund AF One! Lockdown the White House! Stop HIM!

[symbolman]

I'm SO SICK of all this pussyfooting about this Lying Thieving CROOK in the White House playing FOOTSIES with all the CORPORATIONS while our Sons and Daughters DIE and DIE and DIE!

WE KNOW what he's doing, there's MORE than enough PROOF, yet this whole Bullshit Pretention keeps going on, this VAST DENIAL, this PLAYING BY THE RULES GAME while THEY change the RULES to fit their Looting of the Treasury!

The media writes these namby pamby articles about how Bush is "uncurious" and now he SEEMS "hard headed", his "gut instincts" SEEM to have led US down some kind of WRONG PATH! He's either CRAZY (and the Constitution says we can STOP a crazy pResident), or he's just plain EVIL...

HE's a CRIMINAL, he's NOT A KING, and he's SWORN to UPHOLD the Constitution and has done NONE OF IT, None at ALL.

He's LIED and been caught at it, CONSTANTLY. LIED TO CONGRESS, which is ILLEGAL.

He keeps PUTTING OFF doing anything until the last drop of Blood will be spilled, the last gasp of air is loosed from the LAST American Troop, or the last Iraqi CHILD, blown to bits in this GAME they are Playing, the Last drop of oil is safely in an Oil Baron's CUP.

SOMEONE CUT THE CRAP, and get this guy OFF the streets!! You don't let a wild animal run around with an automatic weapon, saying, "Oh well, he's just crazy or something, and eventually he'll run out of bullets I guess.."

DEFUND the Air Force One. Put an ARMED GUARD at the Door of the White House. CUT OFF HIS PHONE. TELL THE TRUTH about what he's doing.

STOP HIM, he's killing and starving hundreds of thousands, and STEALING from ALL OF US. IT IS OBVIOUS. IT IS A FACT.

There HAS to be some LEGAL and NONVIOLENT WAY, some Emergency Measure that can be INVOKED NOW.

THIS is INSANITY and it's being ALLOWED and WE KNOW BETTER, the WOrld Knows Better, the Troops Know better.

It's MONSTEROUS and must end NOW!

Cut off HIS FUNDING, DO SOMETHING, the insanity must END.

I'm sick of the "civilized" GAMES being played out, like ALL IS WELL. ALL IS NOT WELL.

End of Rant. Hopefully not the End of the World before these CREATURES Kill and starve us ALL.

[PretzelWarrior]

1. HERE HERE. I think even some of 'them' are realizing he's rogue

and must be stopped. It's really amazing how those of us who felt crazy and that we were banging our heads against the wall are having to watch as prophecies come true about Bush in ways we could never imagine.

He for the past 2 years after he won his 'mandate' has spiraled downward.....more out of touch....more out of control...it is really of Shakespearean or Greek tragedy proportions.

His ill choices and hateful, spiteful sould effect not only him and a few around him but negatively impact THE WHOLE F***ING world.

I say....this proves there is no secret cabal in Europe controlling all. Otherwise, they would have seen long ago the need to act and rid the world of this bovine pretext for a human.

We MUST RISE UP WITH ALL OUR VOICES to throw off the malady known as Herr Bush.

[symbolman]

3. Look at the CRAP they write

No joy at the White House, despite holiday garb
November 30, 2006
Subdued Cheer at the White House
By Marian Burros

Iraq may or may not be in the midst of a civil war, and political tensions are escalating in Lebanon, but the White House must carry on. First Lady Laura Bush previewed the holiday decorations for the press today and whether it’s the outside world intruding or the administration’s six year ennui, it was hard to escape a feeling that there was not a lot of holiday joy evident in the Executive Mansion, despite its holiday garb.

The decorations were generic red, green and silver balls and icicles, stars and beads with tufts of cotton to represent snow. The usual presents under the tree were missing.

The chief usher, Gary Walters, offered his usually diplomatic opinion: “It’s different,” he said.

The Marine Corps group that plays in the entrance foyer was fewer in number this year, down to three.

Even Mrs. Bush’s choice of wardrobe was in keeping with the subdued atmosphere: a tailored, muted, brick tweed pants suit, with minimum jewelry....

***

One of the house butlers, who has been there through many Christmases, wondered what was happening to the White House. “It’s just not the same aura that it used to be,” he said.

***************

AM I supposed to FEEL BAD about this? Gee, that is AWFUL, the White House is HAVING A BAD CHRISTMAS.

BUSH has MELTED all of his little green army men.. there's only THREE Marines to play some Christmas Music..

TOTAL BULLSHIT.

Where's the ARTICLE that says he MUST BE CRAZY? That he's MURDERING WHOLE CULTURES?

Instead we get GARBAGE like this, Laura's MUTED CLOTHING.

FUCK Laura's CLOTHES, and FUCK Bush. Horseshit. HE's More like one of the FOUR HORSEMEN, you don't WRITE about what THEY are WEARING, or how SAD they are.. they are PESTILANCE, you get RID Of them.

By all Legal means of course, but let's CUT the CRAP and have a REAL Conversation about what the HELL IS GOING ON in this COUNTRY, eh?

Thanks for your input, agreed.

[PretzelWarrior]

5. I'm glad you've kept up the outrage. it can be tiring.

but I agree. they will talk about celebrity weddings, who Nancy Pelosi backs for majority leader, runaway brides, missing teens...but they won't show coffins of our dead soldiers. they won't show disemboweled or dismembered Iraqis. They don't give you the taste, feel, and smell of ENDLESS WAR and STRIFE caused by that hateful arrogant murderer Bush who insults all enlightened institutions of law and order.

[symbolman]

8. I've been fighting these bastards for 6 years

with EVERY DIME I OWN. ALl of my SWEAT in so many venues, and now that Bush's INSTALLED Puppets in Iraq are schemeing with IRAN, and Bush is IRREVELANT, what the FUCK are we DOING?

He runs around clowning all over the world and THAT IS OKAY?

His Baker run board says, "Oh, we need to LEAVE, but not now, whenever would be fine..' and BUSH SAYS NO?

Who the HELL IS this ASSHOLE, and WHAT is HE doing in OUR Sacred White House?

Time to take out the TRASH is NOW.

Congress needs to hold an emergency Meeting to discuss the Constitional CRISIS occurring in this Nation, that we have an INSANE person in the WHite House, and there are LEGAL Constitutional Measures for REMOVING HIM POSTE HASTE.

Thanks for your post, I AM Angry, more than ever, and have been WAY ahead of the Hockey Puck for Many Years.

LET'S ROLL, DEMAND that CONGRESS REMOVE HIM NOW.

[ooglymoogly]

53. i'll second that here here though i don't know what it means and add my own hear hear

meaning listen up folks...hear this man/woman...or listen to this man or woman... he/she gets it...british parliament since before time. i suppose here here could mean here is your answer...and that works for me.

[truedelphi]

80. It was Jon Stewart who was the first (and perhaps ONLY)

Voice to point out that the USA went into Iraq to knock out their army - and now we won't leave Iraq until we have built up their army.

Bush is truly a little boy playing imaginary war games with imaginary troops.

And Cheney of Halliburton Inc is gonna keep us in that war arena (with according to Seymour Hersh - a good chance Cheney's laying out the battle plans for Iran even as I type this) because to Cheney the 3000% profit he has seen is very very real.

[kestrel91316]

111. Time to ship a couple million Guy Fawkes masks to the

good people of the DC area, if you get my drift.

[PA Democrat]

30. I saw Laura on TV showing off the White House Christmas decorations and wanted to SCREAM.

Why don't they go into the homes of families whose loved ones have been killed by Bush's filthy war and ask them about THEIR holiday decorations and entertainment plans? Or maybe ask a soldier who has lost 3 limbs because of Bush's obscene LUST for war how he's gonna manage to put up the Christmas decorations or assemble his kid's first bike. THAT would be a story worth covering.

[Straight Shooter]

36. Excellent point. n/t

[midnight]

47. Thoughtfully stated. It is hard to see so much imbalance in this

Country. We do really need to put more focus on those who have been jeopardized.

[ooglymoogly]

69. well said...was she riding her broom when she showed off the uppermost decorations

[truedelphi]

84. They have taken the broom away because you can't fly when U

Are on so many Psych meds

[Flying Dream Blues]

91. Great point. I'm sure some of these families are having a

"subdued" Christmas this year, too.
:cry:

[ComerPerro]

148. swear to God, Laura Bush is the most disgusting, fake, insincere woman I've ever seen

[maggiegault]

105. Hey...I Have A Great Idea For An Article!

Instead of worrying about the "muted spirit" of the White House thief and his gang of thugs, why don't we write about the thousands of troops who receive mail, packages, cards, encouragement from NO ONE back in the States.

Many of our troops literally have NO ONE other than their band of brothers and sisters. Believe me, the troops take care of each other, and all care packages are shared with generosity, but can you imagine what the holidays are like over there anyway...let alone receiving no mail?

Here's an idea for an article...why not do a profile of my brother's three-year-old little daughter, who told Santa Claus "my Daddy is a soldier. Can you bring him home now?"

Or my brother, who misses his family terribly, and who will be missing his baby son's first Christmas?

How about my sister in law, who is trying to make the holidays merry for her children, despite the glaring absence of their soldier father? You want to talk about a house with "the same aura"? Try worrying 24 hours a day that your loved one is going to get killed in Sunni-Shiite violence.

Besides, I wouldn't feel too bad for AWOL and Drinky McNoStop. They have managed to pick out a damned succulent spread for the official WH holiday events. It's currently in Salon magazine, and I copied it over onto my blog.

[Maraya1969]

81. Let's not insult the cows ok?

:-)

[jannyk]

2. Happy to k&r nt

[solara]

4. Can voters 'recall' a President?

It has happened to Governors before. Gray was recalled by the California voters and Schwartzenegger assumed the throne. Why not a President?

[symbolman]

6. I have no idea

But I do KNOW that it's WAY past the time when we are supposed to "wake up and smell the coffee".. It's ALL FRAUD.

YOu take the coffee and throw it down the sink, pour out the coffee maker and throw it IN THE TRASH, along with the COFFEE that came with the machine.

GONE, OUTTA THERE, KAPUT..

Like the New York TImes now, NOW they write that Poor Georgie just can't get it right.. well, NY TIMES YOU LIED US INTO THIS WAR TOO.. and YOU USED the White House to DO it, and allowed THEM to use YOUR false INTEL given to YOU By THEM..

SO the NYTIMES can Kiss my ass too.

I BEG everyone to NOT buy that damn paper, and CANCEL your subscription. DO IT. and tell them WHY you are doing it.

Let's get the Wheels rolling, and NOW.

[Hekate]

14. Voters get to do it by elections. Congress can impeach. That's pretty much it.

To me, the electoral process is one of the marvels of the world when it functions right. California's recall of the governor irritated me no end precisely because it circumvented that process for bogus reasons. Same thing with so-called term limits. We get our opportunity every 2, 4, and 6 years to throw the bums out -- THAT's term limits, according to the US Constitution. .

So anyhow, as far as I know there are only a few ways to rid ourselves of this troublesome beast before 2008, and the most likely at this stage of the game is impeachment. The people's representatives have to do that -- we can't do it directly.

Hekate

[mom cat]

48. Keep the pressure on your rep and senators, and Pelosi.

[savemefromdumbya]

86. can state legislaters do it?

[Hekate]

107. I think they can express their opinion, which is good, but can't remove him

It all goes back to the federal system as outlined in the Constitution. We can lean on our representatives in DC, but we have to do it through them.

That's our system, and like I said, when it functions right, it's a marvel. The last 12 years (since Gingrich swept in the Repub Revolution) have been appalling and the last 6 years have been agony, for those of us who believe in our system of checks and balances and Bill of Rights.

Hekate

[Mechatanketra]

157. Representative democracy is an oxymoron.

That's our system, and like I said, when it functions right, it's a marvel. The last 12 years (since Gingrich swept in the Repub Revolution) have been appalling and the last 6 years have been agony, for those of us who believe in our system of checks and balances and Bill of Rights.

It's a marvel, all right, in the same sense that a dog walking on its hind legs is. "It isn't that it's done well, but that one is surprised to see it done at all."

Our system of checks and balances, and the Bill of Rights, have been suffering crushing body blows for basically 200 years. We've gotten lucky that once in a blue moon, we actually don't end up with crooks in power. The last 6 years aren't a subversion of our system but an inevitable consequence of how tepid and inadequate both the democratic powers of the citizenry and the lauded checks and balances really are — merely the bubble finally reaching a critical point in circulation where catastrophic embolism can occur.

[Hekate]

15. self-delete -- dupe

[VenusRising]

7. Awesome!!

:applause:

Have you been listening to the voices screaming in my head?

[symbolman]

9. YES

and THEY will SUFFER this Insanity NO LONGER.

USE the CONSTITUTION, THERE is a MEASURE there for an INSANE president. Get him out NOW.

He is NO LONGER RELEVANT, PERIOD.

[symbolman]

10. Here

RIGHT HERE: If he is INSANE, and he's proven it to many people in my opinion, if they are paying attention at ALL:

**************************************
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office

**************************

THEN CHENEY Takes over. THEN WE let the world know HE IS INSANE and cannot reasonably HOLD OFFICE. (Let Congress Declare him TOO ILL if nothing else)

That Leaves NANCY PELOSI as PRESIDENT.

Let's get on the Ball, cut crap, THIS MAN IS CERTIFIABLE, and so is CHENEY...

I'm willing to bet that MORE people in this country would AGREE than NOT.

**************************


Amendment XXV - Presidential Disability and Succession. Ratified 2/10/1967. Note History

1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

------>>>>>>>>>>>4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.<<<<<<---------------------------

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

[watrwefitinfor]

12. Why not a massive campaign to get our Reps to DEFUND his war?

That's the only thing that finally got us out of Vietnam. Now, as then, we are just being strung along.

Awesome rant in that OP, Symbolman!

But what you're talking about isn't very realistic. However -

It's all over the news this morning that * is putting together a 100 Billion war funding bill, and already they are spouting that the Democratic Congress is going to pass it! How can they know that?

So why not a campaign to let our reps know how much it is opposed. After all, that's why we put them there. And it may be a bit more realistic than getting them to declare * insane and install his backup as president. We could at least maybe get some of them standing on their hind legs and making a noise about the funding if we really made ourselves heard.

Wat

[GreenZoneLT]

16. Well, actually, what got us out of Vietnam

Was a painfully slow phased withdrawal (Vietnamization), followed by a peace agreement not worth the paper it was written on, followed by the military collapse of the corrupt government we were supporting.

Kind of like what's likeliest to happen in Iraq.

[watrwefitinfor]

23. Well, actually

None of that got us out, until we convinced Congress. Finally. And after all those years of organizing and teach-ins and hell-raising in the streets the funding was finally cut off. At least that's how it seemed from my personal vantage point. Of course the RW talking point is still that we were the reason that war was not "won."

We here at DU understand the parallels between Iraq and Vietnam. Including the corrupt governments we installed in both places and all the lies about withdrawal - whether "phased" or "not by an artificial timetable."

That's one of the reasons I find such solace in this place. People here understand and DU keeps me sane after what seems like two lifetimes in the belly of the beast. And occasionally - not very often but occasionally - I put in my two cents worth.

I was merely attempting to point out that a big campaign from the left to try to convince our own Dem congress critters to not rubber stamp the idiot's war budget might be a little more productive than a highly laudable and understandable but Quixotic attempt to oust him due to him being batshit crazy. I have seen DU get on its high horse and make waves like you wouldn't believe unless you were here to observe it. I especially remember the mobilization to contact our Reps about filibustering the Alito confirmation. We didn't win it, obviously, but boy, did we make a noise. I guess I just don't understand why you would want to shoot the idea down.

Welcome to DU.

Wat

[Dick Diver]

29. Notice paragraph 4 which you are recommending

as a course of action uses AND not OR. Therefore, the Vice President must agree with the finding that "the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office." No chance of Cheney doing that.

[LiberalEsto]

34. Cheney won't do it

There's the problem.
I agree with you completely, this swine ought to be removed from office by legal means. He shouldn't be permitted to run loose. He needs to be either hospitalized or tried for war crimes.

If they didn't own the Supreme Court, I would want to appeal to decertify the 2000 and 2004 elections on grounds of fraud, but there is no hope of that happening.

Barring that, and barring Nancy Pelosi's contention that "impeachment is off the table," the next legal step I would like to see is forcing Cheney out of office. Heaven knows there is plenty of potential evidence -- the secret energy policy meetings, Plamegate, and the various Halliburton war profiteering.

If Cheney can be pushed to resign due to scandal and legal problems (such as a possible criminal conviction), * can't appoint a new vice president without the advice and consent of Congress. That replacement VP would have to be acceptable to the Democratic majority. Once that replacement VP is installed, he or she can take the steps to declare that * is "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office." That, or * could face impeachment.

This is similar to the step-by-step process by which Nixon's "anti-impeachment insurance" VP Spiro Agnew was forced to resign. He had pleaded no contest to corruption charges in Maryland, where he previously was governor.

Once Agnew was out of the way, the path became clear for both Democratic and Republican leaders to face down Nixon and tell him to resign or be impeached.

[rodeodance]

11. His rhetoric was OK pre-election--passed off as only poliitcal stump talk but

now even most of talk shows are given him the shaft.

[AzDar]

13. kick!

[cali]

17. That's not the way our system works.

Period. We can't cut off the funds for AF1, or storm the WH with pitchforks. Yes, it's frustrating, but what you're suggesting sinply isn't possible.

And hysteria never solved anything.

[cassiepriam]

19. Our system is badly flawed....

A psychotic drunk can ruin the world
and we can do nothing....

[cali]

20. Yes, our system is indeed badlyl flawed

but it's what we have. Would a Parliamentary system be better? Probably as concerns our situation now, but all political systems are flawed. The problem with the OP, is essentially that it's calling for mob "justice", for overthrowing the government.

[cassiepriam]

24. Mob justice is how American was founded...........

If our forefathers had not overthrown the govt
we would be bowing before the Queen as we speak.

[cassiepriam]

25. When in the course of human events it becomes necessary....

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred. to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

— John Hancock

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

[cali]

26. Hyperbole, it's

what's for breakfast this morning. Rididculous assertion that we'd still be some sort of colony if not for mob justice.

And the words mob and justice together are oxymoronic. Or just plain moronic. Take your pick. And don't forget your pitchfork.

[cassiepriam]

57. Please read the Declaration of Independence. Well worth the time.

It still resonates today.
Thank God for forefathers willing to go
outside their comfort zones.
And not listen to those who called them moronic.

[cali]

61. Oh, I've read it many times.

Now find one scholar who will back up this kind of ridiculous rant.

[grasswire]

71. no

The OP is calling for the following of the rule of law.

Where do you read "mob justice" in the OP?

He's calling for Congress to exert its lawful powers.

[cali]

103. Yeah, because calls to

throw him in jail immediately, to cut off the phone and to post arm guards at the WH, are so constitutional. Because saying that bushco is a wild animal roaming the streets with a machine gun, and we can't wait until he runs out of bullets, is just a temperate call for following the rule of law. LOL.

[WinkyDink]

160. The Romanians got it right.

[Maraya1969]

82. Mob justice is better than no justice eom

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

41. You Are Correct On All Fronts.

And I agree that they hysteria does nothing more than make us look really silly.

Personally, I just can't wait for us to take control in January already. I know we will put a huge damper on his ability to cause additional constitutional destruction. I also have a ton of faith in our Party's potential to do some great things in the next Congress. But these constant threads of unrealistic hysteria accomplish nothing but giving others fodder to think us to be lunatics.

[cali]

54. I consider it shocking that this kind of nonsensical

ranting gets delerious rave reviews, as if the OP contained any wisdom whatsoever.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

89. LOL Yeah, I Hear Ya.

Some have definitely been guilty lately of a sheep like mentality without relying on critical thought. For some of them all you have to do is post a thread saying "Fuck Yeah! IMPEACH NOW!" with nothing else, and it would get dozens of rec's.

Let them have their delirium I guess. Thankfully at the end of the day there are still many of us here who are maintaining our sanity and reality-based logic.

[cali]

98. snicker.

Don't think I haven't been tempted to write a spoof Op, blending V for Vendetta stuff, pitchforks, and talk of a hanging tree on the South Lawn of the WH gronds.

[Usrename]

127. Are you really mocking the OP?

:puke:

Have you no decency?

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[NJCher]

124. well, I disagree with you

How many times do you hear "Where is the rage?" Well, here it is.

Some people are good at expressing rage. Others (myself included) tend to "cerebralize" what's going on in our country. We need others to express the rage because it helps put us in touch with our own rage. It's there; it's just buried under layers and layers of stuff we're constantly told about anger and outrage being unacceptable.

Emotions just are. They are not good or bad. They just are.

And they need to be expressed.




Cher

[philly_bob]

55. The subpoena is mighter than the pitchfork /nt

[petgoat]

93. Only if it's effectively wielded.

Note Pelosi just came out for Rep. Reyes for head of House Intel,
and Reyes is a supporter of Gates.

[cassiepriam]

18. Bingo. Let's make you speaker of the house.....

I agree, all this making nice and pretending is galling.
Like asking Hitler to the prom.
Makes me sick.

[donkeyotay]

58. Ooh, another quaint old document! Nobody actually believes this shit anymore

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

No Sir, we now believe in a ruling elite. The people are incapable of governing themselves, why it'd be mob rule. No, we need Dick and Don and Henry and George to keep us safe! They're doing a heckuva job, and you should sit down and be quiet. Better use this:
:sarcasm:

[cassiepriam]

63. Yep, you are right. What was I thinking????? Toss it out...

with the constitution.......

[malaise]

21. Great rant Symbolman

K & R

[democrank]

22. Waking up with symbolman....

I thought I was fired up before I logged on. Now look what you`ve done!

Not a day goes by that I don`t scratch my head and wonder why on earth we`re sitting here calmly watching this freak show, listening to cable newsreaders tell us about PlayStation3, TomKat and three-inch snowstorms. Imagine if we looked down our Main Streets and saw dozens of cars ablaze, sidewalks strewn with body parts and family members being dragged off by some invading force. Would the media still sugarcoat the story or spend endless days chattering about what to call it?

Who in the name of Sweet Jesus cares about our national honor at this point? That was destroyed the instant Junior chose his unnecessary preemptive war and lied his way into Baghdad. This is a disaster and the time for measured Senate Speak is O-V-E-R.

[madokie]

27. Symbolman you can go on and on, I like reading what you write

I want it so bad, so bad. I feel hopeless to do anything but give up hope I will not. I always knew I loved my country but I didn't know I loved her as I do, she's like a mother and she is being violated by this crew and I want justice, not a gloss over, real justice. This madman must be stopped for mankind if not for us

[Kolesar]

28. bush* is frozen and he cannot figure out what do do about Iraq

He is a scared rabbit, trying to hide in plain site.

He is the lamest embarassment of a leader. He is waiting in the White House for James Baker the Turd to drop in there and extract him from this mess. All the while, he has nothing to say but recycled and less vitriolic versions of his "stay the course" crap that he has used to attack Democrats with for two years.

Waiting for the weasel to close in and finish him off.

[opihimoimoi]

31. RANT OF THE MONTH.....As the Head Coach of TEAM AMERICA

Bush has not won a single game in 6 seasons.....not even one touchdown...

Instead of yards gained...he has lost ground in all of his games..His record sucks....if this was the NFL, Bush would be fired a long time ago....

Why is this dude still there?

Bush exposes a flaw in the system....How to Remove a FLAWED COACH(PRESIDENT) from the Position.....The present system sucks....

Mike is Right.....kick the dude out now.....

[Hubert Flottz]

122. Cheerleaders don't make great coaches.

Bush wasn't even a good cheerleader, until Karl showed Junior how to shake his moneymaker right for the fools in the FOX/CNN/MSNBC TV audiences!

Bush is a made for TV monster created by a band of neocon cutthroats and killers. America honors the consters for being muggers and thugs. The way they honored Al Capone's crew.

Congress needs to put a stop to the BULLSHIT!

[screembloodymurder]

32. It's not a rant, it's common sense.

When you discover Frankenstein is running the country, what do you do?

You form a mob, get the torches and march on DC.

[cali]

59. Of course it's a rant.

It bears no relationship whatsoever to common sense. Sad to see so many DUers, deluded.

[kestrel91316]

113. Yeah. We just need to keep being good little Germans.

[TheWatcher]

153. Spoken Like A Good German

If they come for you, even if there is anyone left to speak for you, they should stay silent.

You are truly irrelevant.

[lonestarnot]

33. And secure Barney to a safe harbor!

[Gregorian]

39. And take away his Playstation!

Now that would destroy him.

[EnviroBat]

35. Last night my friends and I came to a collective realization that took the air from the room...

As a nation at this moment in history, we are no better than Nazi Germany of the late 40's. This nation as it exists currently is a threat to the rest of the world. By allowing this administration to conduct such aggressive foreign policy, and continue to go on unchecked is, in itself, criminal. Complacency must end. The time for peaceful dialog is over. I for one do not wish to go on supporting this. Call you congressmen, senators, representative's and demand that this freak be removed today. The world hate us boy's and girl's. That is a cold hard fact, and a reality that makes me feel far less secure now than any terrorist attack ever has. We need to deal with this situation now before World War 3 is officially declared, AGAINST US.

[Cleita]

52. I've been writing letters to my reps regarding this since the

passing of the Patriot Act. Back then anyone who compared this administration with Nazi Germany, even here on DU, was considered a crank or even crazy, but I did anyway and will keep doing so until they wake up. I hope there is a broad awakening not only from your friends but America at large to push this truth forward until no one can ignore it anymore.

[EnviroBat]

66. Keep up the good fight...

We will too.

[cali]

64. No.

First off there was no Nazi Germany in the late forties- WW@ ended in 1945. Second of all, the dems aren't even in control yet. Sure, we have to demand investigations, but this hysteria really doesn't help anything. Lastly, no the US is not like nazi germany. That we're having this exchange now, is evidence of that. That doesn't mean that bush hasn't done terrible things, or that he shouldn't be impeached, but no it's not time to give in to hysteria and fear. Oh, and no one is going to officially declare WW3 against the US.

[EnviroBat]

68. Wow, thanks I feel sooo much better now that you've shown me the light..

Of sit on our ass and do nothing mentality. Oh, and I'll edit my post to reflect the correct time period of the mid 40's. And yes, people were having a dialog in Nazi Germany before WWII, but propaganda won out in the end. But by all means, don't draw any parallels, just sit back, relax and let it all happen...

[cali]

72. Nonsense.

German citizens certainly were NOT able to conduct any kind of a dialog criticizing the nazi regime after the regime cemented its power and that happened by '37 at the latest. I'm certainly not suggesting anyone sit on their ass. Demanding exhaustive investigations is the only way we'll get any kind of progress toward bringing bushco to justice.

[Cleita]

88. This is why we have to point out to them the similarities so they

don't sit on their collective asses.

[petgoat]

94. Behavioral Science has come a long way since the 1930s

and it's no longer necessary to employ such crude techniques for social
domination as were used in the past, especially with the pervasive
hypnotic effect of the mass media.

Also, many of the more notorious aspects of Nazism took place only under
severe wartime economic and social conditions.

The ambition of the PNAC cabal for global domination has been made clear.
In that most important way, they are like the Nazis.

[cali]

104. If they're so effective,

how come they're not working? The public just soundly rejected bushco. As for PNAC, it's dead. Many of the original members have turned away from the war, and the very policies they formulated.

[petgoat]

108. They're not working because of the internet, and because of

the efforts of tens of thousands of dedicated activists
who've challenged the pervasive fear, cynicism, and apathy.

If not for the internet, the lock the Bushcists had on the
media would have held sway.

[kestrel91316]

116. If you don't like all these righteous, WARRANTED rants,

use your ignore button. Don't go trying to beat down someone's JUSTIFIABLE anger. We need passion, not milquetoasts.

[cali]

137. It's a thread on a discussion board

and I have every right to comment. Frankly, I think rants like the OPs are merely blowing off steam and serve no purpose outside of that. As for "passion", please see my tagline.

[TheWatcher]

155. And we have the right to tell you that you are collectively full of shit

And irrelevant.

[symbolman]

159. Yeah you do

but don't go thinking I'm some kind of shrill idiot 'blowing off steam'.. I've got PLENTY of creds and have called MANY movements and deals WAY ahead of the curve.

From being sued by Michael Savage for a Half a Million Bucks, to Sucessfully Boycotting Limbaugh to great effect (with the help of so many here), so much so that I was on the O'Reilly show once, and Scarborough TWICE. The second time for my ARMY OF ONE ad, which was one of 14 finalists in MoveOn's "Bush in 30 seconds" contest in NYC. My ad (as a Vietnam Era Veteran, who's worked in VA Hospitals after Nam), was shown BEFORE the winning ad, nationally, not to mention that it was shown 3000 times on Cable, CNN, MSNBC, Etc, etc during the PRIMARIES, WHILE some folks and I followed ALL the Candidates and filmed them.

We filed charges against Novak for physically attacking a man in New Hampshire at that time.

I've offered more than 50 Flash political attack ads on my site Takebackthemedia.com, and won an Award in Hollywood at the Egyptian Theater for my Flash work.

Kerry and his wife invited my wife and I during the Primaries to attent the Carol King Concert with them.

Michael Moore parted an entire gymnasium of fans fighting over his autograph to talk to ME, and told me loudly, "You're the MAN!"

I've made many films, 2 dvd sets, one when I flew from Hawaii to Washington DC to film the DOwning Street Minutes, where Conyers HIMSELF invited me to film, his aides forced Pelosi's aid to get me in the room in that basement. Later I filmed him handing over 500,000 signatures at the door of the White House. I've done other filming for Conyers as well.

Been called by the likes of Wes Boyd for legal advice before they made the film about FOX, Greenwald talked to me many times seeking legal help for me with the ACLU, and Norman Lear of the People for the American Way, when I was being sued for a half a million bucks.

I laid a coffin at the foot of an enlistment center and refused to leave in Times Square and FILMED IT, when only 400 of our troops were dead.

You want to pooh pooh my statements, that's your right. I FOUGHT for that right for you when I enlisted in 1971 after facing the draft.

But DO NOT, make noises like I am full of shit, and that I am only RANTING, when the PROOF is posted before your eyes FROM THE CONSTITUTION.

If YOU HAVE NO VISION, and DO NOT understand what is being said, despite the fact that SO MANY GET IT, then I feel sorry for you.

And I've EARNED the right to tell you that on a place YOU consider to be ONLY a DISCUSSION BOARD, a THINK TANK is more like it, but NOT when people refuse to LISTEN, like you do.

I could list more, but I'm busy writing a book that I believe will change our culture, that has Hollywood interest in it BEFORE I'm even finished.

Show a little RESPECT, and get the shit out of your ears please.

Feel free to put me on IGNORE, as is YOUR right.

[kestrel91316]

114. Yep. Just keep being good little Germans. Go along to get along.

[cali]

143. That comment rates another

snicker. Yeah, advocating investigations is being a good little german. The hyperbole on this thread just keeps getting funnier. Oh well, it's not bad entertainment.

[TheWatcher]

156. I'm glad you find the death of our country entertaining.

You are such a waste of space.

A waste of time.

A waste of a human being.

Christ, where is the ignore button.

You make OMC tolerable.

[petgoat]

92. Welcome to DU, EnviroBat

:hi:

Actually, as Harold Pinter has pointed out, this nation is a greater
threat than Germany was because Germany was only one global power
balanced by others (the USA, the USSR, the UK, etc...) while the USA
today is balanced only by the entire rest of the world.

The playwright said: "The US is really beyond reason now. It is beyond our imagining to know what they are going to do next and what they are prepared to do. There is only one comparison: Nazi Germany.

"Nazi Germany wanted total domination of Europe and they nearly did it. The US wants total domination of the world and is about to consolidate that.

"In a policy document, the US has used the term 'full-spectrum domination', that means control of land, sea, air and space, and that is exactly what's intended and what the US wants to fulfil. They are quite blatant about it."

Pinter blamed "millions of totally deluded American people" for not staging a mass revolt.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,975048,00.html

[KitSileya]

140. "Millions of totally deluded American people"

Hopefully, the American chickens will come home to roost, the American economical hegemony will be destroyed, the American consumer culture will be a thing of the past, and Americans will have enough intelligence to replace their current way of living with something resembling democracy. I have no compassion for Americans when it comes to the mess they've managed to get themselves in. After I heard about the Lancet study's estimate of 650 000 dead Iraqi, I am actually more and more inclined to support violent methods to stop the US destruction of the world. Your military is killing people, and destroying nations willy-nilly, you are letting your corporations run wild, you do your damnest to stop any meaningful cooperation between nations to help correct the problems of the world. We did not do right by the Jews and others in WWII, we didn't do right by the Kambodians under Pol Pot, we didn't do right by the people of Rwanda - isn't it time the rest of the world learned from their mistakes, and do right by the Iraqis under Bush?

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. GREAT rant, Symbolman and while we're at it,

can we PLEASE throw the repukes in Congress in jail with him???!!! THEY ARE COVERING UP WHAT THESE RAT BASTARDS ARE DOING/HAVE DONE!! THEY are complicit in letting this PSYCHO stay in office.

[Lugnut]

38. A-frickin-men!

:kick:

[bagrman]

40. I guess it's up to us, DIY impeachment, Go here-------->

http://beingism.org/cgi-bin/DIYExtra.cgi

Latr

[L0oniX]

42. (V)

[bagrman]

87. Enough said.

[kestrel91316]

117. Yep. Time for the masks to be delivered.

[pacalo]

43. You hit the nail smack dab on the head on what gripes me the most.

All the pretense that all is on the up & up, with a little "minor mis-step" reported here & there...for pete's sake, this man who was installed into the WH is nothing more than a spoiled rotten apple who is playing a dress-up game at our expense. Cut the crap, indeed.

[RestoreGore]

44. THANK YOU!

I too am sick of all the PRETENSE by both parties. It is way past time for Bush and his enablers to be removed from this White House. I doubt the framers of our Constitution ever thought the people and government of this country would be so SOFT on criminals hijacking their country. It is SHAMEFUL.

[focusfan]

45. i agree kick the son of a bitch out

kick him out on his ears and put him in prison he is not above
the law

[Ron Green]

46. You're telling the truth, symbolman, but

remember that the fact his "election" was even close enough to be stolen means we deserve much of this. We're still a long way from awakening the masses.

[Beam Me Up]

73. Which "election" are you referring to?

2000 may have been close but I don't think 2004 was at all -- just my opinion but I don't think we got the real numbers on that.

[Ron Green]

77. Either one, or both.

My point is that the American people could have rejected this guy and his cabal overwhelmingly, but enough of them bought into the fear-mongering and lies that he was elected TWICE. He should have been resoundingly defeated.

Too many ignorant people in this country, and the whole world pays the price.

[KitSileya]

141. You may deserve much of it,

but the Iraqis certainly don't. The thousands of people dying of AIDS in Africa because the US refuses to fund any health effort not completely abstinence-only don't. The thousands of people around the world kept in practical slavery to American corporations don't. The thousands of people who will die because the US refuses to acknowledge global warming, and in fact works against global initiatives aimed at reducing the devastation caused by it don't. The thousands of people who die because the US supports tyrants don't. The thousands of people who suffer and die because the the people you let into the White House would rather put a dollar in the pocket of their friends than help people survive don't.

[Ron Green]

144. See my post #77, just above.

Americans' desire for comfort and convenience hurts the whole world. Bush is just a monkey we've hired to implement this.

[KitSileya]

145. I've lived in the US, I have family and friends there,

I would like to move back, but when the Lancet study came out, something broke inside me. Some of my compassion for the Americans who live under Bush died. Right now, my concern is more for the rest of the world rather than any Americans. Whether you acknowledge it or not, you have had chances to have your voices heard - you have perfect examples in the Civil Rights Movement. Sit ins, boycotts, marches which don't end in an afternoon... Are a significant number of you willing to risk your livelyhood to stop your nation from killing another 650 000 Iraqis? Do you dare risk being arrested, or yes, even killed, to get these war criminals out of office?

I think most of the world is waiting with bated breath - as do you Americans too, of course - for what the Democrats will do come January. If they do not withdraw from Iraq, do not reverse Bush foreign policy when it comes to the UN, Third World economy, and global initiatives on anything from environment to HIV, I do not think we will give you, that is, ordinary Americans, any more quarters if you do not protest.

[porphyrian]

49. If someone were stabbing a baby, would we sit and watch?

The crime is in progress. It must stop now.

[Jcrowley]

50. K & R n/t

[Cleita]

51. You and most of us at DU have realized this since the

Supreme Court appointed him President. However, in our maddest nightmares we never imagined it would get this bad. Now, they are passing laws to legalize crimes, their crimes, the most egregious of these the rulings were to legitimize torture and the suspending habeas of corpus. The Texas mafia er legislature recently passed a law stating that bribery was legal. How long before the feds catch up to that one?

[cali]

56. We have taken back the legislative

branch. They will be unable to pass laws to legalize their crimes, and dems are already taking steps to reel in the atrocious MCA. Rants like the OP's are simply letting off steam.

[Cleita]

60. "Rants like the OP's are simply letting off steam."

No kidding!

[donkeyotay]

70. They legalized bribery. You have to buy representation and, let's face it

most of us can't afford it. Money equals speech. If you don't have any money, well you don't have any representation.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

How can we consent when we're just along for the ride, just being milked for our taxes and our veneer of legitimacy?

[Blue_In_AK]

62. You GO, Symbolman...

I couldn't agree with you more. :yourock:

[nolabels]

65. That truth and two dollars ......

will still buy you :donut:

Even after success you must continue on poking at that soft underbelly


http://www.answers.com/topic/ernest-saves-christmas

[Individualist]

67. Rant on, symbolman!

I'm wholeheartedly with you. Keep telling it like it is!

[Jcrowley]

74. A review of his record

1. Lying to Congress: cost of Medicare bill
2. Crony Appointment: Michael Brown, fundraiser, to FEMA head
3. Disastrous Legislation: Healthy Forests
4. Theft of 2000 Election
5. Theft of 2004 Election
6. Rescinding the Davis-Bacon act requiring paying employees of govt. contractors the area's prevailing wage for work. Not even sure its legal for a president to unilaterally suspend an act of congress.
7. Alteration of Presidential Records Act through Executive Order to effectively nullify the law.
8. Increasing government secrecy through reclassification of documents and encouraging Executive branch agencies to resist FOIA requests.
9. Failure to act immediately on Aug. 6, 2001, PDB.
10. War misdeeds: Total annihilation of Fallujia
11. War misdeeds: Use of reviled white phosporus as a weapon
12. War misdeeds: failure to secure weapons stockpiles after invasion
13. War misdeeds: Intentional use of smaller military force than needed
14. Lying about Clinton staffers trashing the White House.
15. Fake "terror" alerts whenever Bush fell behind in the polls during the 2004 election campaign.
16. Exposing an active undercover CIA agent.
17. Flouting the Geneva Conventions and making torture legal.
18. Republican Congress suspends Habeas Corpus.
19. Circumventing the 1978 FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) to engage in illegal surveillance of people residing within the United States since 9/11/2001 without judicial review, in *direct* conflict with the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, and therefor an impeachable offence. (Note: during the 2004 campaign, Bush *specifically* addressed "roving wiretaps" as part of the Patriot Act and defended them on the grounds that they were still required obtaining a warrant.) Link
20. Used the NSA to wiretap both the offices and private residences of UN Ambasadors in 2002-2003 to try and decern how members were likely to vote on the Iraq war resolution before the crucial vote in 2003.
21. According to Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's former Chief of Staff, claims he was given authorization to leak details of the still classified National Intelligence Estimate (with regards to the identity of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame) by Cheney, who received that authorization by President Bush himself. If true, never before has a President selectively "declassified" classified information without going through the normal National Security vetting process and then pass that information along only to specific individuals (eg: Bob Novak) in the media rather than broad public disclosure. The White House claims it did nothing wrong, but why then would Novak attribute his source to "a former high-ranking WH official" if nothing improper was taking place?

--------- Reasons to hate Bush - by Mugsy (not all are crimes) ---------

o A draft-dodging, coke snorting, professed former (and current?) alcoholic that got *everything* he ever "achieved" in life thanks to who his daddy is.

o Despite best evidence that Osama bin Laden was in hiding out in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in December 2001, President Bush did not send in ANY U.S. ground troops to surround the area and move in to capture bin Laden ("Sadly, there were more American journalists on the ground at the battle of Tora Bora than there were U.S. soldiers" - Vanity Fair, January 2005, pg 153), instead relying on Afghani rebel fighters coordinated by a handful of CIA agents, supported only by air-to-ground bombing runs. 300 Taliban and al-Qaeda forces managed to hold off Afghani forces long enough for bin Laden to escape. General Tommy Franks, who ridiculed Senator John Kerry's allegation during the 2004 Presidential campaign that President Bush allowed bin Laden to slip away at Tora Bora, wrote in his autobiography "American Soldier" that in December 2001 he advised President Bush, "Uncomfirmed reports have it that Osama has been seen in the White Mountains, Sir. The Tora Bora area."

o Ignoring the Aug 6, 2001 PDB that warned of a possible terrorist attack by bin Laden, and his first meeting with his "terrorism czar" not taking place until just ten days before 9/11 and lasting all of ten minutes.

o Spending over a quarter of his entire time in office "on vacation" (the most in history, surpassing even Reagan) clearing brush on his "ranch" ("Ranch" is in quotes because there are no animals on it, and you'll never see a photo of Dubya on a horse because he is rumored to be afraid of them).

o Took the focus off Osama... the guy who actually attacked us... not just on 9/11, but the USS Cole just before the 2000 election... to go after someone who was not a threat to the United States, on wildly exaggerated accusations of "stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons", "mobile weapons laboratories" and "uranium yellowcake from Niger"

o The infamous "17 words" from his 2003 State of the Union Address where he knowingly lied before Congress and the American people by citing a long-disproven report as "proof" of Saddam's actively attempting to build a nuclear weapon, in order to frighten the American people into supporting a costly, unnecessary and illegal revenge war.

o "Mission Accomplished"

o Nation Building

o Starting a war with no exit strategy that is costing $135 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY.

o The vindictive outing of an undercover CIA agent (former President Bush Sr... former head of the CIA himself under Ford... once called anyone that outed a covert CIA agent "the most insidious of traitors") in a veiled attempt to discredit Ambassador Joe Wilson who dared reveal that he told the Bush White House that the claim of Saddam seeking uranium from Niger, later found to be based upon some REALLY badly forged documents, was completely false.

o Telling reporters "Anyone involved in leaking the name of an undercover CIA agent would no longer be working in my administration", but when it is discovered that it was his own top advisor Karl Rove that leaked the information, changed his promise to "Anyone convicted of leaking the name of an undercover CIA agent...". Is that really the bar we want to set for working in the White House? Anyone just short of conviction is welcome to work in this administration? Apparently so, Republicans tried to change the House ethics rules for Tom DeLay that say "you can not remain Majority Leader if you've been indicted", but were shamed into backing off pushing for the rules change once the press got ahold of it.

o 13 major negative news stories for the Bush Administration are coincidentally followed, sometimes by just mere hours, by "major terrorism events", many of which result in the raising of the White House's color-coded "Traffic Light of Fear" (link)

o The Vice President's former company, of which he still has financial ties to, raking in BILLIONS in hand-delivered no-bid contracts that last for years

o Appointing unqualified cronies to positions of power within the government, even resulting in a massive logistical failure that costs over 1,000 lives (and counting).

o Giving coveted "day passes", intended for visiting reporters from out of town access to the WH Press Briefing room, to a gay-prostitute owing $20,000 in back taxes (can you say "blackmail risk"?) from an extreme Right-Wing "web-only" news outlet, every day for over a year, often within 15 feet of the President of the United States in a time of war?

o The doubling of the price of gas, $66/barrel oil, a 142% increase in the price of natural gas in just one year after condemning the previous administration during the 2000 campaign for "not getting tough with the Saudis" to bring oil prices down (gas was under $1.40/gal at the time).

o Raising the National Debt ceiling to $9 TRILLION DOLLARS (3/16/06) and rubber-stamping some of the most pork-laden spending bills in history while continuing to push for further tax cuts that benefit only the top 1/2 of 1% of the wealthiest Americans while cutting food stamps, student loans and social services.

o "Uniter not a divider"

o "A new era of morality and personal responsibility"

o Fake reporters & paying reporters to push propoganda: Other than Gannon/Guckert mentioned above, "fake news" propogandists include Armstrong Williams, who was paid to promote/praise President Bush's "No Child Left Behind" (a program Williams had previously criticized). Various other, lower-profile reporters were also paid to push WH propoganda, and the WH itself produced "Fake News" segments, complete with authentic looking "reporters" using fake names, that were distributed to TV stations across the country for broadcast.
....Finally in 2005, after "fake news" was disavowed in the U.S., it was revealed that the Pentagon had started paying Iraqi reporters to print "news stories" touting successes in Iraq, that were written by a public relations firm in the U.S. and printed in Iraqi newspapers with no mention or attribution to the United States government as having written them. The White House justifies the stories as "counter-propoganda", but never explained the need for "deception" in not revealing the source of the story.

o Enron - During the 2000 Presidential campaign, Presidential Candidate Governor George W. Bush flew around the country on the personal private jet of family friend Ken "Kenny-Boy" Lay, CEO of Houston-based Enron. Candidate Bush even floated the possibility of appointing Lay to the job of "Energy Secretary". Following the scandalous fall of Lay's company Enron and the loss of hundreds of millions of pension dollars owed to employees, only two people (CFO Andrew Fastow and his wife) have yet to be convicted of any crime.

o 6,700+ dead Americans as a direct result of incompetence. (3,000 on 9/11, 2,300 in Iraq/Afghanistan and at least 1,400 - and growing - from hurricane Katrina)

o The Patriot Act

o Cherry picking Iraq intelligence

o Party-girl daughters arrested for underage drinking with "fake ID's" (like no one would recognize them???)

o Staged photo ops, then claimed they weren't staged.

o "Loyalty oaths" to attend campaign rallies "open to the public".

o Protestor "free speech zones".

o Incessant lying to the media.

o "The Nuclear Option"

o Repeatedly breeching the separation of Church and State.

o Flying back early to "save" Teri Schiavo, but attends John McCain's B-day Party the day after Katrina hits.

o "Conservatizing" PBS.

o Massive media conglomeration (Clear Channel, etc.)

o The crippling of stem-cell research (only one usuable line among the few that were permitted.)

o "No Child Left Behind", an unfunded mandate

o The "Clear Skies initiative"

o Ignoring the UN to bomb Iraq for "ignoring the UN".

o Trying to privatize Social Security.

o Banned the reimportation of cheaper prescription drugs from Canada.

o Abu Ghraib

o Army recruitment in the toilet.

o Deploying the National Guard overseas for three years (use of the National Guard as "active duty troops" was meant to be permitted only in "extreme circumstances" where a direct threat to the security of the United States exists. Most states have laws limiting NG/R deployment to a maximum of 18 months as anything longer is an undo burden on the families, employers and communities to be without their services.

o A White House that's overrun with draft dodging Chicken Hawks that don't hesitate to send others off to die, but had "other priorities" when their time to serve came.

o Sending troops into harms way in a war of choice w/o the necessary armor.

o Paul Bremmer disbanding the Iraqi Army.

o George Tenant's "Slam Dunk".

o "Purple heart band-aids"

o Pissing away a ground-swell of global compassion after 9/11.

o Author of most costly Medicare entitlement program in history with a "Prescription Drug Program" that actually forbids bargaining and competition to control costs (showing just how loyal Republicans really are to the concept of a "free market economy").

o Too "buddy buddy" with the religious right.

o Diebold/CS&S

o Bush always "flipping off" someone.

o Bush is in fact inconsequential. They don't even bother to interrupt his bike ride when Capitol Hill is evacuated (Cessna violates airspace).

o Appoints "I'm not qualified" Porter Goss to head CIA.

o Appoints "UN hating" John Bolton as Ambassador to the U.N.

o Spirted away members of the bin Laden family in the U.S. immediately after 9/11.

o Long-time family ties to the bin Laden family.

o Disturbingly close ties to the Saudi royal family.

o Never said "imminent threat".

o The looting after the fall of Baghdad.

o Attempting to cut verterans benefits while soldiers are at war.

o Rampant chronyism: Michael "Brownie" Brown (7 of top ten FEMA officers)

o Harriet "Harry" Miers

o Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan - Undercover "double agent" spying for Brittish Intelligence (MI6) within al-Qaeda, outed by the Bush Administration in mid-sting during the 2004 Presidential Campaign in order to justify the raising their "Trafficlight of Fear" terrorist threat level immediately following the Democratic DNC Convention that gave Kerry a boost in the polls. Exposing Khan forced MI6 to move in before they were ready, sweeping up only minor terrorism figures, while simultaneously destroying a valuable intelligence asset and jeopardizing future investigations.

[Little Star]

75. I feel the exact same way!!! Couldn't have

said it better myself. Great rant!!! Loved reading it because it let me know that I am not alone with these feelings. Thanks!

[NotGivingUp]

76. Yes! Yes! Yes! And Yes! It seems we should be able to

end this insanity.

[Vidar]

78. K&R.

[wiggs]

79. We'll get there, hopefully. The support system these guys

set up is powerful, subtle, and still strong. Decades of investments, misinformation, plotting, fundraising, recruiting players, and corruption went into the mind-blowing phenomena of the last 6 six years....I thought they were virtually invulnerable and still not sure it's over.

Our republic/democracy is not yet healthy enough to expel this disease right now...hopefully we are recovering. I've been waiting for years for that last straw, that last misdeed that would cause the whole thing to blow. Hasn't happened yet and past disappointments die hard, but I think we're closer. We'll see in January what we've got.

[caligirl]

83. JANUARY- this all changes investigate investigate and the world

will grow angry and demand impeachment. January changes things and Bush is running scared already.

[oc2002]

85. that sums up my feelings too,...and a warning to our Dem elected..

you have been elected to clamp down on the Bush criminals. If you fail to even try, you will be gone.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

90. How utterly hypocritical

If Republicans got you "OFF the streets!!", tossing you in jail for your political beliefs, we'd all be up in arms.

If Republicans put "an ARMED GUARD" in front of Congress to keep them from doing the job that the American people elected them to do (regardless of how they now feel about their choice), we'd know we're in a totalitarian State.

If they invoked a special "Emergency Measure that can be INVOKED NOW", you'd scream "Dictatorship". You'd be right.

It is true that - to quote a certain politician - "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator". But America is not a dictatorship, and it is un-American to seriously suggest that it become one.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

p.s. It apalls me that this anti-democratic rant is the most recommended thread in the Democratic Underground. Come on, people. You're better than this.

[RiverStone]

95. Abuse of power and rethug lies has fueled the frustration...

...many folks express. Our founding fathers (and mothers) never envisioned a theocracy where one party was in TOTAL control. We are talking about checks and balances here; how is advocating for oversite "anti-democratic"???

Thankfully, we WILL have more balance in January of 07.

[petgoat]

96. There's a difference between a dictator declaring the

opposition illegal and tossing them in jail,
and the opposition finding that the dictator has lied, stolen,
cheated, and broken multiple laws and tossing the dictator in
jail.

[nolabels]

97. Expressing why you feel things are insane is actually an act of sanity

Acting out your insane notions is where the clinical diagnosis begins. Really what is your idea of what being republican really means since you would like to lay so much power at their doorstep?

Precisely why republicans can't post ARMED GUARDS at the doors of congress might be a clue on delusion that some seem to have.

Btw, the last time I checked the POTUS that the Republicans installed was still AWOL

[ToolTex]

101. At their most democratic, the French guillotined Louis and the Italians

hung Mussolini upside-down on a meat hook!

Are Americans less democratic than the French or the Italians?

:sarcasm:

[bobthedrummer]

165. The reality is that all of your points historically were implemented

the tactics and techniques augmented by technology and propaganda.

Btw, many of the "troops" are in mufti.

This call for accountability is growing as the truth, the sobering reality of what this installed administration's many crimes entail.

I'm a member of the US Constitution is not "just a piece of paper" community-not HOMELAND (TM).

[seemslikeadream]

99. but but but I'm waiting to hear the words

2506 "I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' Dick Morris, 4/9/03
Tue Jun 20th 2006, 03:59 PM
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/seemslikeadream/109


"Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom
that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively
bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly
shattered skeptics' complaints." (Fox News Channel's Tony Snow,
4/27/03)



"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside
liberals, and a few people here in Washington." (Charles Krauthammer,
Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03)



"I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego
that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to
take that wager?" (Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03)



"What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war
went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose
their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?"
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)



"It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in the
broadest context..... And the silence, I think, is that it's clear that
nobody can do anything about it. There isn't anybody who can stop him.
The Democrats can't oppose--cannot oppose him politically."
(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum-- Fox News Channel, 5/2/03)



"Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people in
Hollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?"
(Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes, 4/25/03)



"I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' from some of the world's
most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types.... I just
wonder, who's going to be the first elitist to show the character to
say: 'Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong'? Maybe the White House
will get an apology, first, from the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Now,
Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war....

"Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N.
weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr.
Ritter actually told a French radio network that -- quote, "The United
States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs,
defeated." Sorry, Scott. I think you've been chasing the wrong tail,
again.

"Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this
guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and
so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is
going to have to hang its head for three or four more years."
(Fox News Channel's Dick Morris, 4/9/03)



"This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To
hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory
meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at
least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend.
Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and
for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a
defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened.
Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confront
an ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might
can set the world right."
(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03)



"Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don
Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war
with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There
is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated
so far.... The final word on this is, hooray."
(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)



"Shouldn't the prime minister and all of us who thought the
war was hasty and dangerous and wrongheaded admit that we were wrong? I
mean, with the pictures of those Iraqis dancing in the streets, hauling
down statues of Saddam Hussein and gushing their thanks to the
Americans, isn't it clear that President Bush and Britain's Tony Blair
were right all along? If we believe it's a good thing that Hussein's
regime has been dismantled, aren't we hypocritical not to acknowledge
Bush's superior judgment?... Why can't those of us who thought the war
was a bad idea (or, at any rate, a premature one) let it go now and
just join in celebrating the victory wrought by our magnificent
military forces?"
(Washington Post's William Raspberry, 4/14/03)



"This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless
military intervention.... The president will give an order. attack] will be rapid, accurate and dazzling.... It will be greeted by
the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring
it on."
(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate-- cited in the Observer,
3/30/03)



"Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State
Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb
and the desperate could ignore it."
(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)




Until the philosophy,
Which holds one race superior
And another inferior,
Is finally and permanently
Discredited and abandoned,
Everywhere is war.

WAR

Until there is no longer first class
Or second class citizens of any nation.
Until the color of a man's skin,
Is of no more significance than
The color of his eyes,
I've got to say "war".

WAR

That until the basic human rights,
Are equally guaranteed to all,
Without regard to race,
I'll say "war"

Until that day the dream of lasting peace,
World-citizenship and the rule of
International morality will remain
Just a fleeting illusion to be pursued,
But never obtained.
And everywhere is war.

Until the ignoble and unhappy regime
Which holds all of us through,
Child-abuse, yeah, child-abuse yeah,
Sub-human bondage has been toppled,
Utterly destroyed,
Everywhere is war.

War in the east,
War in the west,
War up north,
War down south,
There is war,
And the rumors of war.

Until that day,
the african continent will know no peace
There is no continent,
Which will know peace.

Children, children.

Fight!

We find it necessary.
We know we will win.
We have confidence in the victory
Of good over evil
Of good over evil

Fight the real enemy!

Bob Marley

[nolabels]

102. The Republicans are just too afraid to.

They are afraid to say they made up and started a war that they thought they could easily win but still lost.

The whole of congress including the Democratic party members in congress are too afraid to be responsible and hold the guilty ones to justice. We will have no peace till people demand their elected officials hold people accountable

[BelgianMadCow]

119. I sure hope that shattering post has already been an OP of yours

otherwise, it SHOULD be.

[seemslikeadream]

139. Thanks BelgianMadCow

:hi:

Yes it was, got 87 recommondations and was listed at Buzzflash!

[raccoon]

162. This kicks butt, seems!

Thanks for reposting it.

And all those media hoespresstitutes journalists dunderheads dipsticks you quoted, have lost all credibility. If they ever had any.

[Heywood J]

100. Perhaps, just as convicted drunk drivers

can be legally made to blow into a Breathalyzer to start a car, members of the Executive and Legislative branches could be made to blow a breath test to get into AF1 or secure facilities, such as the Pentagon, the White House, the Capitol, etc. Either blow under the legal limit, or you're refused admission.

There's no excuse for a member of government to be intoxicated on the job. At the very least, they look like asses.

[flyarm]

109. OHHHH THANK YOU SYMBOLMAN!! I NEEDED THAT RANT!!

ALL IS NOT WELL..I AGREEE 100%

and i would have loved to write what you wrote..but i am just too damned tired!!

so thank you for writing what has been playing in my head over and over for so long now!!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

THANK YOU DEAR..:patriot:


FLY

[Mnemosyne]

110. Bravo! n/t

[Turnagain]

118. Nice rant

However, Georgi doesn't answer to the American people or to congress, he answers to his Neocon bosses. If the Neocons want American troops in Iraq, for whatever reason, then Georgi will do whatever is in his power to keep them there and his power is considerable. I consider it highly doubtful that Georgi Boy has the brains or initiative to create this level of chaos on his own. IMHO, Georgi is just the messenger, a front for Wurmser, Perle et al., who wish to further their own agenda.

[Megahurtz]

120. Don't forget The Entire BFEE!!!

:argh:

[fooj]

121. Stop the BFEE! Now.

[wundermaus]

123. Anger is Good... Outrage is Better... Action is Best...

If you want to get the attention of our corporate overlords... you know, the ones that are pulling the strings of our sElected officials... then it will take a national commitment of ACTION. The easiest, fastest, most effective and sustainable action I can think of, that every patriot can do right now, is a MINIMALIST boycott. A revolt of non-violence that speaks to their bottom line: GREED. Starting today, right now, with this moment, resolve to only buy what is absolutely necessary to live, and nothing else. Don't buy luxury items, gifts, or entertainment. Drive or travel only when absolutely necessary... think of it as a World War II status... got the idea? Starve the greed. THAT will get their attention - and fast! Non violent resistance... Dr MLK showed us the way...

Ain't gonna let nobody turn me around
Turn me around, turn me around
Ain't gonna let nobody turn me around
I'm gonna keep on a-walkin', keep on a talkin',
Marchin' down to freedom land

[wundermaus]

136. learn from the master...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4973548&sourceCode=gaw

[Usrename]

125. The world is watching!

:patriot:

[steve2470]

126. k&r nt

[Zhade]

128. Indeed. I'm sick of the cowardice.

"Oh, well, before the election we knew he was a criminal, but now, oooh, unsure, don't know..."

BULLSHIT!

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

129. "I'm George Bush and I work for Exxon-Mobil"

nt

[unc70]

130. Rants R Us -- UNC class of '70 - Lewis Black, me, lots more ....

We were in rant mode then, and we still are, and we backed it up with action then and now:

We were a great class, as were those earlier and later, particularly those of us who really got a liberal education, not just Latin or Greek (substitutes for math) literature and languages (we got them too), but how to think, to question, to demand justice, fairness, understanding and dignity and respect of and for everyone: the Wellstones, Elizabeth Edwards, the Kuralts (Charles and Wallace's parents were early leaders in social work), Sam Ervin, Terry Sanford, Bill Friday, and many thousand more each year.

In the 60's, we spoke truth to power: civil rights, censorship (Speaker Ban Law and Jesse Helms), strikes in support of University workers, against the War, Nixon, and that treasonous group, many even now back in power. Howard Dean's late brother was one of the organizers of our first Earth Day.

Those of us in Chapel Hill/Carrboro (with our fellow travellers in Berkeley, Madison, and such) are have had enough, have raised a generation that's even more liberal (SDS has reformed at UNC), have had enough, and we are ready to put an end to the madness. We've started at home in NC, sent Diebold running, Dem majorities at the state and most of the local levels, picked off one (maybe two) Republicker congressmen, and can hardly wait to send Dole packing.

Our state motto: Esse Quam Videre -- To be, rather than to seem (to be) -- As Charles Kuralt noted, we are most proud of our humility. And our basketball. Really, it means to BE, not pretent, not bluster, not mislead. Honest. Solid. Grounded.

And to top it off, once we kick the bastards out (with some going on to prison), we know how to party, to dance, to give a hand up to our neighbors, and a hug to those in need. As shown so well by Charles Kuralt and Bill Friday, we can also see that each person has a story, deserves respect, acknowlegement and compensation for their works, and should be treated fairly and with dignity by all.

We still have a long way to go in NC and in America but we will make it happen while we can. Six years ago, we were prepared to take the painful steps to reduce the national debt and secure Social Security for the future. That took a painful detour, but we still must do it, and we shall.

Not everyone in NC is with us, but the overwhelming majority of those under 40 are. Eventually, demographics trump everything else.

We welcome all of you not fortunate enough to have been with us 40 years ago, to join us now, to rant, to work, to use the resources and power we have acquired over these years to complete the tasks we started so long ago. What are you waiting for? What are you doing that is more important? Sanity, truth, reason, open debate. Then massive pressure on the linchpins of power while we still can. Me must rid ourselves of this nest of vipers once and for all.


(A small rant for all the recent bashers of the South. Northerners moving here are not our salvation; they are voting more conservative, more republican than those of us already here.)

(And a bit of UNC trvia, Chief Moose of Montgomery County, MD during the DC sniper shared something with Paul Wellstone. They were each varsity wrestlers at UNC. Wellstone received all his degrees from UNC; Moose received his doctorate from Portland State.)

[upi402]

134. That's a great story

I hope there's more to follow.
:pals:

[Bitwit1234]

131. He's not leaving because----

If he leaves Iraq before he can declare he has won, he will leave a crappy legacy. (What does he have now) But he says if he leaves office and the war is still there, and the next president pulls out of Iraq it can't be blamed on him. So he wants to stay for two more years, while Americas sons and daughters die, because he does not want to be blamed for the mess he made in Iraq...FOLKS THAT'S THE MESS ''''HE'''' MADE.

[Hailtothechimp]

132. Rock on Symbolman.

A shame that your rant was necessary, but you said what needs saying.

[upi402]

133. That felt good and all *I* did was read it

symbolman
:patriot:

[tcfrogs]

135. Probably the dumbest thread at DU ever

Sorry pal, do better next time.

[demobabe]

138. This thread must have offered something to you...

...if you felt compelled to comment. How about some substance as to why what he says won't work instead of simple dismissal?

[lonestarnot]

142. tcfrogbrain. pal, guess you knew that stood for Personal Ass Licker!

Enjoy your stay!

[G_j]

146. Thank You! Thank You!

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[symbolman]

164. My pleasure

and thank YOU for the Thank YOUs :)

[dorkulon]

147. Crush, Kill, Destroy: Why Bush needs to be impeached

http://www.buffalobeast.com/110/crush_kill_destroy.htm

[symbolman]

149. Thanks my friends!

I'm glad I struck a chord, I just got overwhelmed by the Iraq news, bullshit Baker, "Yeah, they should leave, WHENEVER works for us" etc..

More of the same, and yet the media feels that Bush "feels" this or "thinks" that..

HORSESHIT. Psychotics feel NOTHING.

I have been travelling for two days, and just got back, been reading through incredible posts here, need to relax and read the rest, amazed at the outpouring, but I do now KNOW that I'm not the only one that feels this way.

Get that Tape worm OUT of OUR WHITE HOUSE...

The Dems need to know there's a REASON they were Elected in such great numbers (besides Sanity breaking out) but I think they have a job to do, and they NEED to MAKE HISTORY, and let the rest of the world and US know that WE are BACK IN CHARGE :)

As for the naysayers, most of you answered your own questions, and others did a great job "Good little germans don't talk back.." DON'T THINK, Let them LIE, PRETEND it's NOT happening.

But it is NOT going away without ACTION.

By all legal and nonviolent Means of course.

[bobthedrummer]

150. They've got to GO. That was the people's message 11-7-2006.

n/t

[Peace is Possible]

151. the sooner the better

Does anyone have the DU thread 'send 500,000 impeachment letters to Nancy Pelosi by JAnuary'?

[earth mom]

152. Excellent Post! If people aren't angry they are NOT paying attention!

Or they just don't give a damn! :puke:

Here's the thread that was posted by yurbud:

Visualize Impeachment & Send 500K letters to Pelosi by Jan 3:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2697215

[Philosoraptor]

154. Is that so much to ask?

I totally agree, it's way past time to do it.

[lonestarnot]

158. Where's all the investigating that was to occur and what is the damn

progress with that? I want to see the sentencing guidelines!

[wicket]

161. kick

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

163. Sure thing...

:dem: