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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 03:55 PM
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Powell, Tenet, others told Bush he was breaking the law by ordering NSA
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Powell, Tenet, others told Bush he was breaking the law by ordering NSA spying
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Jan 31, 2006, 09:06
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Top-level administration officials four years ago told President George W. Bush he as “breaking the law” by ordering the National Security Agency to spy on Americans and warned the President that his actions could bring his administration down.

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, former Central Intelligence Agency director George Tenet and others begged Bush to reconsider his executive order giving the NSA authority to wiretap phone calls and monitor emails of American citizens but their pleas fell on deaf ears.

“Mr. President, I fear you are heading down a course that could doom your administration,” Powell told Bush in a meeting in early 2002. “I urge you to reconsider.” Powell also argued against Bush’s plans to turn Pentagon spies loose on American antiwar groups, saying “such actions don’t belong in America.”

Powell wasn’t the only one worried about the legality of wiretaps. Then deputy attorney general James D. Comey, acting as attorney general while John Ashcroft was hospitalized, refused to sign off on Bush’s executive order, prompting then White House Counsel, and now attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, to visit Ashcroft at his hospital bed in a failed attempt to get the AG to overturn his deputy.

More at:

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8087.shtml
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 03:58 PM
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1. !kciK
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 03:59 PM
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2. consider the source
i wish it was credible
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:06 PM
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4. Did you miss that those are direct quotes???
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:11 PM
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5. that means nothing for this site
they've invented direct quotes b4

i remember something about laura begging the idiot to stop drinking...
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:48 PM
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9. So tell me where CHB was wong on these stories
they broke before the MSM did:

This was posted before the TIME article:

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8014.shtml

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=364&topic_id=281721&mesg_id=281853

They also nailed spy gate before the MSM did.

I don't remember CHB spouting off about 22 indictments like Raw Story did either. I am waiting to see DUers treat Raw Story who has missed several times treated like CHB who seems to NEVER miss.

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:01 PM
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3. I wonder what his sources were for this article - aids of Powell ??? n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:15 PM
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6. Oh, Capitol Hill Blue
I thought you were serious.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:33 PM
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7. CHB has nailed everything lately
They nailed spy gate and they also nailed Bush's connection to Abromoff way before TIME did a story on it: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8013.shtml

CHB also didn't make the mistake of saying their would be 22 indictments like Daily KOS and Raw Story did.

The criticism of CHB is almost always unfounded. I am still waiting for someone to name one instance where they ended up being wrong. They always break stories before the MSM does and they rarely miss.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:54 PM
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12. PFFT! they only 'nail' things that any Duer already knows!
And then he "backs it up" with so-called "quotes"
that will never be confirmed or denied.

CapitolHillBlue is 1/3rd 'stuff everyone already knows",
1/3rd "stuff that is probably true but can never be researched"
and 100% "Pleasant, enjoyable PABLUM for liberals".

Whether correct or incorrect at any given moment,
Douggie is ALWAYS just a WWW-Enabled Snake-Oil salesman.

He is NOT a journalist, he's just a schmuck who surfs the web all day
and then embellishes publically-available info
to CREATE the "juicy, soap-opera style" stories that you are READY to hear.


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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 05:28 PM
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13. If DUers already know this stuff then why is it
Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 05:29 PM by Quixote1818
when I posted his article about the Bush/Abromoff connection before it broke in TIME, a hand full of DUers like you said the article was BS? I had about five people saying he was full of shit and if it were true the MSM would have picked up that info. Three days later the TIME article breaks backing up everything he wrote. I am still waiting for those DUers to admit they were wrong.



It seems, not to many DUers seem to know anything posted in this CHB article. If they did then they wouldn't be brushing it off or nominating it would they?

How do you suggest Thompson give away his sources inside the Bush Administration?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 05:53 PM
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15. Spin faster! FASTER, I say!
SERIOUSLY THOUGH:
You _DO_ realize that DUers can use the 'search' function
to see what I actually said on that thread?

And those Duers who do that will realize that I said the same thing then,
and it was just as true...you DO know that, right?

Your "reactions" to my posts,
and the opinions I have attempted to express therein,
are consistent only in that they CONSISTENTLY dodge the issues I attempt to address.

Obviously, I have failed to express my opinions
in a fashion which you understand well enough to even acknowledge, let alone REBUT.

I blame myself.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:50 PM
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11. Try this post then
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:37 PM
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8. not sure about Tenet-I am reading Risen's book-Tenet was
basically a suck ass for Shrub.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 04:49 PM
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10. He don't need no stinkin laws!
His ego demands that he can do what he wants....
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 05:31 PM
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14. so what
it doesn't matter. I now refer to bushco** as the untouchables.
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