Everything that is happening in Iraq is the Bush Administration's fault...

[Postman]

The sectarian fighting (civil war) would never have happened if the dumbass had used the "Powell Doctrine" (massive, overwhelming force)

Or

As General Shinseki had suggested, before he was shitcanned, sending at least 3 to 4 hundred thousand troops. Not just to win the war but to provide security and stability afterwards.

But nooo. We're gonna do it the Rumsfeld/Neo-con way. Go in with just enough troops to secure defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah, I know, we never should have gone there to begin with.

The killing continues in ever greater numbers while the CW tries to lay the blame of the violence in Iraq on the house-of-cards gov't there.

The Bush Administration stands around with their thumbs up their asses waiting for insiders from the outside (ISG) to tell them what to do while innocents get blown up at fruit markets by the hundreds.

What a friggin crime this war and occupation has become...my God.

[YDogg]

1. not to mention that we didn't have to go to iraq in the first place, iirc

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. both posters are correct.

but like a bullish jerk in a china shop, you break it, you bought it. And after half a trillion dollars,3,000 US lives and 300,000 Iraqi lives, boy have we bought it.

[YDogg]

3. yup.

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[YDogg]

13. Welcome to DU, NOVA_Hokie98

:hi:

[Trajan]

5. But he DID mention it ...

"Yeah, I know, we never should have gone there to begin with."

[Trajan]

6. Well said ...

It's bad enough they decided to go into Iraq on the flimsiest pretext ...

But to fuck it up like they did is inexcusable ...

The GOP are stalwarts of National Security ? ....

THey are the party that will 'defend us' ? ....

LMFAO ! ......

Sorry for the laugh ... the whole idea is actually scary ...

Rumsfeld AND Cheney AND their Neocon hacks in the PNAC are strategic nightmares - The exemplar of what NOT to do ....

[screembloodymurder]

7. MSM is now pushing for a Democratic solution

as if it were our problem now that we control Congress. Bush is a "decider". He creates problems and we're supposed to solve them.

[Postman]

8. "We" don't even "control" Congress until January...

It's still a Stupidpublican controlled Congress....

[Trajan]

9. In all fairness ....

Our basic humanity should demand we attempt to solve the human tragedy ...

It is incumbent on ALL capable human beings to seek the end of senseless violence ....

We have some power to affect the outcome .... We should do what we can to that end ....

[Postman]

10. I agree...

But who will help the US in Iraq now?

I wonder how it feels to be a Frenchman now?

[opihimoimoi]

11. Murphys Law....if ya vote fucked up, then ya git fucked up...

[LynnTheDem]

12. NO WAY could the US have "won" this INVASION & OCCUPATION

PERIOD.

[ThomWV]

14. That Is Simply Not True

And I have to say it is one of the most simplistic view I've seen expressed here or anywhere else.

Bush may have caused a trememdous amount of the damage Iraq has suffered but it is absurd to say he is the total cause of that suffering. You must attribute some part of it to the people of Iraq because if you don't then you are saying in effect that all that is bad by Bush is matched by all that is good about Sadam; equalibrum.

Bush may have done such a bad job of occupation that lawlessness prevails in the country but its still not him that is the cause of civil war that exists in the country - he let it happen but he didn't make it happen.

[WinkyDink]

15. "[M]assive overwhelming force" in order to do....? Kill the very people we

expected FLOWERS from for LIBERATING them (sarcasm)??

Exactly what was the purpose of "the war", in your opinion?