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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:08 PM
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Happy Fascist Pilgrim Day!
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 12:59 PM by Nightjock
Happy smallpox in the native americans blankets day!

I'm sorry.....
This day should be about helping people who are hungry.

I'm sorry again.... what I meant to say is it should be about people with "low food security."

edited for uptight spell checkers* SHEEESH!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:12 PM
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1. Happy To Hell With Spellcheck Day! ;) nt
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:13 PM
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2. You caught it, too. n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:15 PM
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3. Happy Puritan Attitude Day
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:19 PM
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4. Thank you
:thumbsup:


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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:35 PM
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9. I whipped up a new avatar in the spirit of the day!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:15 PM
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20. the Mayflower pilgrims were NOT puritans.
They were separatists.

Study your history, sonny.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:49 AM
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22. In fact, they were Puritan Separatists.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:14 AM
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25. look a little deeper
From The Mayflower Society, the entity of record for Mayflower pilgrims and their descendents:

"Pilgrims, Not Puritans
by Duane A. Cline, GSMD

At the Twenty-Second General Congress of the Society of Mayflower Descendants held in Plymouth on September 13, 1960, the following resolution previously proposed by Deputy Governor General Louis Ellsworth Laflin, Jr., (IL) was adopted:

WHEREAS, William Brewster (1566-1643) and William Bradford (1589-1657) professed to be PURITANS while members of the Anglican congregation (1602) of Richard Clyfton at All Saints' Church, Babworth, Nottinghamshire; and

WHEREAS, The Hampton Court Conference of 1604 forcibly removed 300 clergymen from the Church of England, and from that church's PURITAN faith, including Richard Clyfton and John Robinson, the first two pastors of the Mayflower SEPARATIST "PILGRIMS" of 1620; and

WHEREAS, William Brewster and William Bradford started the 1606 Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, SEPARATIST congregation, the first on English soil, together with Richard Clyfton and John Robinson, as a direct result of forcible ejection from the PURITAN branch of the Anglican Church, and

WHEREAS, There are only two known persons, out of the 104 Mayflower passengers (including the two babies born) who were Anglicans and PURITANS: Christopher Martin, Governor of the ship, and his step-son, Solomon Power, neither of whom left any descendants;

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, By the General Board of Assistants at its annual meeting in New York, September 19, 1959, that the term "PURITAN" should not be applied to any passengers of the Mayflower of 1620, which carried the first settlers of Plymouth Plantation, except to Christopher Martin and Solomon Power, and in the name of William Brewster and William Bradford, only before the year 1604 or 16 years before the Mayflower sailed. After 1604, all of the 1620 Mayflower "PILGRIMS" were SEPARATISTS.

(see Centennial History - General Society of Mayflower Descendants - 1897-1997; Duane Cline, Compiler/Editor, p. 292)"

You can see the chart at http://www.sail1620.org/discover_myth_pilgrims_not_puritans.shtml

More detailed information is available here: http://www.pilgrimhall.org/PSNoteNewPilgrimPuritan.htm

and here from the History News Network:

"Pilgrims, Puritans -- Same Thing?

Though even presidents get this wrong -- Ronald Reagan once referred to Puritan John Winthrop as a Pilgrim -- Pilgrims and Puritans were two different groups. The Pilgrims came over on the Mayflower and lived in Plymouth. The Puritans, arriving a decade later, settled in Boston. The Pilgrims welcomed heterogeneousness. Some (so-called "strangers") came to America in search of riches, others (so-called "saints") came for religious reasons. The Puritans, in contrast, came over to America strictly in search of religious freedom. Or, to be technically correct, they came over in order to be able to practice their religion freely. They did not welcome dissent. That we confuse Pilgrims and Puritans would have horrified both. Puritans considered the Pilgrims incurable utopians. While both shared the belief that the Church of England had become corrupt, only the Pilgrims believed it was beyond redemption. They therefore chose the path of Separatism. Puritans held out the hope the church would reform." http://hnn.us/articles/406.html


Plenty more available via google.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:21 PM
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5. how do you know what people have or have not done to help the hungry?
:shrug:



Why aren't you out helping the hungry instead of posting insults here?
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:43 PM
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10. That is exactly what occurred to me, nini. Often, it seems.......
that people would rather curse the darkness than light a candle; it's just sad that it is our side - I'm used to the republicans railing against things instead of doing something.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:25 PM
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16. belated welcome to DU
:hi:



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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:23 PM
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6. Happy Thank.....
God the natives didn't kill us when we got here, too bad we're going to screw them in the end Day.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:25 PM
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7. I understand why you're on DU instead of practicing what you preach.
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 12:26 PM by Kelly Rupert
You're hoping somebody will teach you how to spell "fascist."

Here's another good word to learn to spell: "h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e."
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:01 PM
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13. I headed a radio food drive
for hungry families in New York.

So....nanananananah!

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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:30 PM
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8. .
:thumbsdown:
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ClickClack Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:45 PM
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11. Who's a facist? Do they hate us for our faces? We're fighting facists over there
so we can save face here at home. Our president is a two-faced liar, so he has an extra face to protect. Perhaps someday soon he will face the music. I suspect that it will be more than he can face.

Personally, I LIKE faces. However, I despise racists and fascists.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:00 PM
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12. You seemed to have angered the spelling police. Lock your doors.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:02 PM
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14. I think they are just upset because
they believe the pilgrims and native americans were such good buddies.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:27 PM
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17. Speaking for myself,
I was kidding around.
Also speaking for myself, I got the joke in your OP.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:37 PM
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18. Here's a serious response to your OP
Most people on DU are aware of the history of the country, including the raw deal given Native Americans, but if that's all that this holiday is to you, you're in sad shape. First of all, history is bloody everywhere. There are few few places on this earth that aren't a record of the rotten things that humans do to one another. Personally, on this day, although I recognize those things, I don't dwell on them.

There a good deal right with gratitude and joy. It isn't naive to spend a day expressing those things.

Sorry you can't see it that way, but I hope you have a great day. Now, it back to the galley for me.
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Ka hrnt Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:42 AM
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21. Thank you!
Finally, an intelligent comment on this "Evil white Europeans" kick DU's been on the last 24 hours...

...and I'm still waiting for someone to present an actual case (when/where/who) where these "smallpox blankets" were intentionally spread to the Native Americans.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:23 PM
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15. Things to be thankful for.
Guess what one of them is not.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:04 PM
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19. Happy Thanksgiving DU! Enjoy Your Turkey Day And Best Wishes To All Of You!
:toast:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:01 AM
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23. i fed five very poor people and sent all the leftovers home with them
feel better. or still the bad guy cause five of us that ate werent poor? next week i am taking one of them out to buy christmas tree and decorations because it means something to her and she cant afford it. is that happy facist christmas day too? we will probably stop off at the grocery store and i will let her fill up a cart of food and pay for that before i take her home, is that a happy facist tuesday?
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City67 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:48 AM
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24. Good on you seabeyond
I think some of these people just think it's kEwL to hate traditional holidays.

But you done good. :-)

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