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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:33 AM
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Madonna: "go to Texas and suck George Bush's
dick".

During her concert on ABC last night the audio of those words was removed, but it was clear she said them.

I was happy about it. :)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:37 AM
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1. just another reason -- in a long list --
to LOVE madonna!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:47 AM
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3. Yes!
There's a post at huffingtonpost from May indicating she's been using that line during I Love New York for a while now.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:51 AM
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4. i'm with you --
madonna is terrific and always right out there.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:44 AM
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12. when did she start hanging out with the dixie chicks?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:23 AM
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18. My husband said the same thing last night as we watched the concert.
And saw both of them live this past summer. It was a great summer for concerts for us!
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:45 AM
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2. Guess she was upbraiding some heckler.....
eom
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:32 AM
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23. Could have been that moran that was following Streisand around on her tour.





Or maybe notorious freeper loser Chad Castagana is out on bail?






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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:26 PM
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107. No, that's been part of her act all along.
eom
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:52 AM
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5. heh heh heh!
I knew there were things I liked about her.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:03 AM
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6. I WONDERED what she was saying that got bleeped!
It was a really long bleep! :D
I'm glad that was it. Go Madonna!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:04 AM
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7. Now you know why CLEAR CHANNEL won't allow her fantastic new album to be
played in high rotation!

The album is astounding, a real tour de force, and just fantastic. It's doing well everywhere else BUT in the USA because it's just not getting the US airplay on the radio because of her outspoken opposition to bush.

She is awesome!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:17 AM
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9. I like Madonna a lot, but I must admit I'm disappointed by "Confessions on a Dance Floor."
It's got some fantastic cuts - Jump, Get Together, Isaac - but it just mostly kind of all blends together into one long song.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:10 AM
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16. the cd IS mixed like that.
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 11:12 AM by ldf
most songs run together with no stop in music. it is like a mix at a club. very few actual breaks in the music.

the cross segment was edited to not show her on the cross (instead they gave you visual images of the 12,000,000 aids children of africa).

what is so ironic about that is that that the song could actually be classified as a religious song. quotes from the bible included. it was basically emphasizing jesus' words of "as you do unto the least, you do unto me". but the fundies are so anxious to scream persecution, while shoving their own twisted "interpretations" down the rest of our collective throats that they fail to see the good madonna does. the whole concert had such religious overtones that it was inescapable. (kabalah (sp?) influence?)

i commented to my partner as we watched the broadcast that i, an athiest, should found the church of madonna, the diva. :-)

they pixilated her hand while she was "giving the finger", during one song. many, frequent bleeps.

they also completely edited out the montage of political figures, some that made bush look like a complete idiot.

we saw the concert in madison square garden, last night of about five sold out shows. i was very impressed by age range in the audience.

the whole concert was an "on your feet" concert. tiring, but worth every penny. madonna always gives a visual feast of a concert. it now tops my list of concerts (very first was herman's hermits, in 1964, same year i first saw the rolling stones..., so i have seen a LOT of concerts.)

and the cd is awesome!

edit to add that the entire concert was exactly 2 hours. yet the tv broadcast was also 2 hours, WITH commercials at least every other song.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:27 AM
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20. I saw her twice at MSG.
Loved every, sweaty moment of it. The first time I was on the floor right under where she did "Like A Virgin". It's the closest I've ever been to her in concert.

I found the edited version of "Live To Tell" extremely moving last night. It was a powerful statement and drove her point home.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:41 PM
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44. No airplay in the US because it's a YEAR OLD...
This album was out in the US in August/September 2005, if I recall. The single, "Hung Up", received HEAVY rotation back then.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:05 AM
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8. Madonna may have a British accent , but she's what Ben meant by American!
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 08:07 AM by orpupilofnature57
She called Ronnie Ray-guns out on his shit all the time.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:25 AM
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10. Uh ha, and what would Bushes reply be to that? “Bring her on”!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:32 AM
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11. Not a big fan, but
you GO, Girl!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:49 AM
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13. Never liked her music
think her adoption is sickening and find her "wisdom" about georgie, infantile.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:08 AM
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14. Well, it wasn't her dissertation,
it was a line from a pop/rock concert.
I doubt her fans mistook it for "wisdom". ;)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 10:34 AM
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15. i'm sure she cares all the way to the bank.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:42 AM
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29. Just a reminder:
This is a discussion board; shockingly things are discussed here.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:02 AM
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31. bwahaha! you're a fine one to talk --
this was certainly open to ''discussion'' -- ''think her adoption is sickening and find her "wisdom" about georgie, infantile.''

you don't intend discussing anything -- you intend to be as low brow about this subject as possible -- as though you're the be all and end all of superiority in this arena.

horse shit.

like i said -- she fuckin cares what you think.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:22 AM
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34. Yes, discussion.
In subsequent posts I laid out why I find her adoption sickening. One more time: The child has a family who can't afford to care for him. Why couldn't Madonna, with all her money, reunite that family and give them the means to feed, clothe, house, and educate that child. Why didn't she adopt a child who has no parents? Lord knows there are enough of them in Africa. I don't expect a reasonable answer from you. You seem to be incapable of that, but I gotta admit, I'd love to see your response to my points.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:55 AM
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36. there's no indication from your pissy posts that you want
to discuss -- you want to be superior and whiney.

you've called her disgusting and imperialistic.

in your whole life -- your whole life -- you will never contribute to the common good as much as madonna does through her african foundations and her charitable giving.

you made this about your self -- not madonna -- get a grip.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:20 AM
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37. LOL!
Ever hear the phrase grasping at straws? Can't answer my points, so you resort to personal insults. Sad.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:34 AM
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38. lol -- there are no straws to grasp at --
you're being all about your whiney, pissy self and that's it.

that's all you care about.

if you can't stand the heat --
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:56 AM
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39. I have no problem with the "heat"
particularly if your tepid, half assed insults are the best you can do. Now how about addressing the points I brought up about Madonna providing aid to reunite a father and son, instead of adopting the child? Why couldn't she have adopted a child who didn't have parents?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:57 AM
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40. you made this about your whiney assed self -- not about madonna.
i have no interest in your questions.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:31 PM
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41. Evidently
that's because your cowardly, whiney assed self- and you're the one that's been whining- doesn't have an answer to a simple question. Quite pathetic.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:55 PM
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47. ''disgusting'' and ''imperialistic'' makes it about you.
your ''moral'' superiority -- your subjective take on someone else -- you were never interested in evidence -- you were interested in your phony, trash talking superior judgementalism.


let's keep going -- i have all day.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #41
92. Pot meet kettle...
Where's your answer to my simple questions?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:18 PM
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67. How about the fact that the father later
apparently looked like he was more interested in SELLING the kid to her?

You want to leave a kid with an asshole like that?

There, your point is answered.

I don't care for Madonna all that much either, but I'll support anyone throwing some money and good faith at humanity ANYWHERE.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:35 PM
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109. She's stated (several times) that she'd been told his parents were dead.
Once she found out that his father was alive, she also was told that he had still given the child up for adoption because he couldn't take care of him and the bond was already there between her and the child. Believe it or not, not every child in an orphanage is there as a result of both parents being dead - sometimes one or both parents will give the child up in hopes of a better life for him or her. This is what the little boy's father had done - the child never lived with his father, he'd spent his whole life in the orphanage.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:21 AM
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17. I'm sure her newly adopted son will share your attitude.
He should have been left in Africa to fend for himself.

As an adopted child myself, I find your post sickening.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:28 AM
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22. No Shit.... (nt)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:38 AM
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27. And I find yours equally sickening
and a disgusting sign of an imperialist mind set. So Madonna with all her fucking money couldn't find in all of Africa a child whose parents were both dead? Hmm. Why do I find that hard to believe? This child has a father too poor to sustain his child. Why didn't Madonna set up a fund for the family to ensure they could feed, cloth and educate the child?

Your post is utterly thoughtless.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:18 AM
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32. imperialist mind set?
Oh God, another bitter DUer--railing against people who have something that they don't. money.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:32 AM
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35. Heh.
check your inbox.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:58 PM
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49. Just in case you don't know, trumad, PMs can be alerted on too. -nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:11 PM
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51. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:04 PM
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62. Interestingly enough, not much of anything you ever post is remotely of interest
Yet you tirelessly keep at it.

Now Go To Texas And Suck George Bush's Dick. :hi:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:11 PM
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63. Interestingly enough, I've never even noticed you at all.
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 03:12 PM by cali
Oh, and I'm not big on alerting for lame personal insults. I'd rather return them: Go Cheney yourself with your bitty little thang, and have a great day!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #51
72. I wouldn't know, since it's PRIVATE and all
But the feature I mentioned is one many DUers are unaware of, and I thought it useful to tip trumad, just in case.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 01:56 PM
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48. Both of my parents were alive when I was adopted.
Should my adoptive parents have set up a fund for my biological parents to take care of me? Or should I have been left in an orphanage until I was 18 and thrown out on the street to fend for myself?

I suggest you visit www.raisingmalawi.com to see how Madonna is helping out.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:43 PM
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71. What is sickening and thoughtless about my post?
David had survived TB and malaria. When Madonna met him, David was sick with pneumonia. The doctors said if it wasn't for Madonna, David would have died.

So both parents must be dead in order for a child to be up for adoption? I was adopted. Both of my biological parents were alive. Should my adoptive parents have set up a fund for my biological parents to take care of me instead of adopting me?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. Sweetie, you are so right, but you are wasting your time.
When someone chooses to hate, there is not much you can do about it.

Reasoning can only go so far.

:hug:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. I thought I would at least try.
I don't see how any adoption could be questioned, unless the adoptive parents are completely unqualified.

Thanks for the love, though.

:loveya:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:56 PM
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81. The response to Madonna's adoption has been so puzzling to me
I just don't understand the hate. I really don't.

The only theory I can come up with is that the Madonna haters don't want to believe ANYTHING good about her. In their minds she is PURE EVIL!!!!
And it would cause them too much cognitive dissonance to think that she could possibly do anything good.

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:09 PM
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83. Agreed.
And it says something that almost 25 years into her career she can illicit such strong opinions on both sides.

FYI: Get this. She's going to be on The Home Shopping Network tonight promoting her children's books. She has now infiltrated every crevice of American life.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #83
110. Shut up! HSN? Wow.
Well, her books raise money for Malawi, so good for her!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:48 PM
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113. I watched the interview this evening and yes, a percentage of the sales
go to Raising Malawi. Plus, they announced that all the profits Madonna makes off the sales will go to charity.

What a materialistic bitch.

:eyes:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #113
116. And she's setting such a bad example!
eom
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:15 AM
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117. Such a horrible example.
Not only is she giving money to build an orphanage to support 4,000 kids, she even adopted one to give him a better life.

How dare she!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #13
19. Whatever
I don't see what her adoption has to do with anything.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:36 AM
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25. so you think her adoption is "sickening"
Have you ever been to Africa and seen those poor kids who never get adopted? That is sickening.


Regardless of what you think of her music, she should be congratulated for ensuring that one less African kid will have to live in disease-ridden poverty.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:41 AM
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28. This makes me so angry I'm going to repeat myself.
This child has a father who can't financially take care of the child. Why didn't little St. Madonna set up a fund for the family, so the father could raise, educate, and care for the child? Why couldn't she adopt a child whose parents were dead? Looking forward to a cogent answer from you.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:05 PM
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50. Both of my parents were alive when I was put up for adoption.
What's your point? Should I have not been adopted?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:15 PM
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52. Obviously, I don't know the circumstances of
your adoption, but my point is simple. Madonna could have chosen to make it possible for this father to be reunited with his son, and with very little effort, given this family a chance. And Africa has more than its share of children who are truly orphaned.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. Just like David, my parents couldn't raise me.
Which is why I was up for adoption. Should my adoptive parents have given my biological parents the resources to raise me instead of adopting me?
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #56
85. let me know when cali answers you, Jack...
but I have a feeling that won't happen.

what a bitter and twisted person that appears to be. omg.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. I've been waiting. But not holding my breath.
I'm just as curious as you what the response would be, since cali has such a strong opinion in this matter.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #56
122. Here's your answer:
I don't know the circumstances of your parents giving you up for adoption, but I'd hazard a guess that they were quite different from this case. I've read that the father had misgivings about the adoption. That in itself is disturbing. Your conflating your adoption with Madonna's adoption of this child, really doesn't make much sense to me without knowing all kinds of particulars. Let me repeat my question which no one seems to want to answer: Why couldn't Madonna have provided for the child she adopted, and his family, and adopted a child who had lost both of his parents?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #122
123. You don't need to know the circumstances or reasons why I was up for adoption.
Our parents couldn't provide for us, therefore, we were both up for adoption. Do you understand what adoption means?

I provided you with a link yesterday that clears up the whole "father had misgivings" question. Here it is again in case you haven't had a chance to read the article:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/10/26/koinange.banda/index.html

You have put very restrictive parameters on who deserves to be adopted from Malawi.

You haven't gotten an answer to your question because, frankly, it's ignorant.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 03:20 PM
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131. But did the father want the child only AFTER he learned Madonna had $$$ -
Had he had any interest in the child beforehand? If he had gotten the money would he have (could he have) cared for the child?

No, I am not stereotyping people without money as being morally weak - I am saying that this issue has to be decided on a case by case basis. We must consider what is in the best interests of the child - including the long-term interest of the child knowing and respecting their biological and cultural roots.

I am an adopted adult. I missed out on a lot not knowing the truth of my origins. I don't take this issue lightly. My birth mother could not have cared for me even if she had been given the financial support to do so. She was a good woman, and she wasn't capable of being a mother.

In the best possible world, the child's father would be a good man who kept track of his child as best he was able, visited when possible, and would have given his child a wonderful home if someone had provided some financial support. I've not followed the case closely enough to have any idea if this was the case.

Peace.

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #131
132. cali is just a hater who refuses to own up to the fact that they're wrong.
Here's the real story of how the father feels.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/10/26/koinange.banda/index.html
.
I'm adopted, as well, and have been totally offended by cali's ignorant statements.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #132
133. I read the CNN story from the link you posted below - I am glad that
the father has spoken. He sounds like a decent man. Human life trajectories never travel simple, straight lines. Why should these lives be any different from the rest of us?

==================from the CNN story...

If Madonna gives David back, he will end up like his siblings -- dead -- Banda told CNN.

"Madonna, whatever is happening, maybe it's because you are famous, that's why all this is happening," Banda said." Please be strong and don't give up the fight. My David will be a good son to you."

<snip>

Banda, an illiterate, 32-year-old vegetable farmer, on Sunday told the media through a translator that he didn't realize that Madonna and Ritchie would have custody "forever."

But Banda has since said he favors the adoption, and his reversal has caused a media barrage in this tiny country in southeast Africa.

Banda, who has moved in with a sister to avoid the massive scrutiny, became defensive when CNN asked if Malawi officials forced him to change his story.

"No one in the government has forced me to say anything. This is my doing," he said. "I gave my son, David, to Madonna with all my heart, and what is happening does not reflect the truth of the matter. I gave David away and he now belongs to Madonna."

<snip>

Banda said he would tell court officials that "that what we agreed with Madonna stands."

Banda insisted he hasn't profited from the adoption and he doesn't want any money. He said he just wants what is best for his son. Banda does hope that his boy grows up to be a healthy and happy.
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #28
58. She offered. Father declined such help
This according to Madonna herself when asked by Oprah.
Hope this puts your opposition to rest!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #58
65. I read an article
that included a brief interview with the dad, and his words contradict hers, so no, it doesn't put it to rest for me.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #65
70. Hopefully, this will clear it all up for you.
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bigriver Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #13
42. Seconded.
some adult voice talking, finally.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #42
60. And You Have Such an "adult" Voice!!!1111!!!!!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #42
93. I am reminded of when "the adults are in charge now" was loudly said.
It turned out they were anything but.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #42
129. Are all 110 of your posts
so pithy?

:rofl:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. They've already been tombstoned.
Go figure.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #13
53. Imagine all the food, medical care and education that poor
kid is going to get with Madonna. It's so much better for him to grow up in a hut on the edge of starvation in Africa.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. It doesn't take much imagination to
recognize that Madonna could easily have reunited a father with his son, and for a modest amount of money, provided the child with decent shelter, food, education and much more. She could have adopted a child who truly was orphaned. There are lots of them in Africa.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. David was sent to an orphanage when he was two weeks old.
And his father has completely blessed the adoption. He's even remarried and started a new life. Madonna is doing just what you're requesting for other children. Once again, I'll urge you to visit this website which should answer your concerns.

www.raisingmalawi.com
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. Have you had a chance to visit the website?
It lays out Madonna's pledge to feed and educate 4,000 Malawi orphans by building a brand new orphanage. In other words, not only did she adopt a child, she's taking care of 4,000 other ones.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #57
66. That's great, and
she's to be commended for it, but it doesn't change my opinion of the adoption.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. What is your criteria for a child to be adopted?
And you haven't answered my original question yet. Should my adoptive parents have financial supported my biological parents instead of adopting me?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #13
69. I used to like her early stuff. Borderline.
When she got on that Papa Don't Preach phase, I tuned out.

;)
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
108. Adopting a child out of a life of poverty, disease and suffering is sickening?
Huh...
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #108
119. It's totally gross. Haven't you heard?
Liberals and progressives aren't supposed to take care of our children.

Where have you been?

:eyes:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:27 AM
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21. Her Last Concert Here in MA Was Anti-War
My better half went with my nice and said it was very anti-war. I have to give Madonna kudos.... at leats she uses her fame for a good message.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:11 PM
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26. Not only was this tour anti-Bush
so was her last one, as well. She's just as pissed and sick of all this crap as we are.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:34 AM
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24. Good for Madonna.
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liberati Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:21 AM
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30. Didn't see the concert so I may not understand the context but
wouldn't Bush like getting his dick sucked? Especially since Laura probably doesn't provide that service!
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:19 AM
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33. I saw that!! Awesome! Also the dancers representing Israel and
Palestine was a powerful statement.

That was one hell of a concert - the roller skating, the outfits, the hot guy defying gravity on the metal bars - OUTSTANDING!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #33
64. She added the symbols to her dancers' chests during the conflict.
Madonna is a lot more politically astute then people give her credit for. Remember who she publicly backed during the Democratic Presidential primaries? Wesley Clark.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #33
97. Yes that was powerful symbolism there
The African children part made me cry though.

Blue
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #97
101. The running count of the millions of African children orphaned
with the images of these young faces accompanying the numbers made me cry as well. It's a shame that there are so many heartless people in this world who choose to ignore this pandemic.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #101
102. Right. I wish I was a trillionaire
Just so that I can go over there and help those people. Oh and Haiti too.

Blue
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #102
103. That would be my first priority.
But for now, I am an HIV/AIDS Health Educator. Not gonna make the trillions, but I'm trying to do my part to help people with HIV/AIDS live a longer, healthier life.

It's a shame that there's some so-called liberals around here who choose to crap all over someone who does have the money to make a difference. Pretty pathetic, actually.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. I believe that charity is cleansing of the soul...
If you have the means to do so, you should donate. I believe that those who acquire wealth but don't give to charity become tainted and corrupted by it. So giving a substantial amount of wealth keeps the soul "clean." Those who give out of their hearts, will have happy lives knowing that they are making a difference and that they will one day be reward.

Blue
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #104
105. Beautifully stated.
And those who dismiss and mock the charity that others are able to share are just as tainted and corrupt.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #101
111. I loved how she showed what true religion was about and pointed out the rampant hypocrisy in the US.
In addition to the images and the numbers, using quotes from the Bible and standing on the cross (which was edited out of the TV show) were very strong symbols used correctly to point out the insincerity of our leaders and a great deal of the public as well. I found it moving.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #111
114. It was very moving and a shame that they refused to show Madonna
on the cross. Watching both images at the same time was such a powerful statement. It's a shame that people around her want to bitch about how they feel about her adoption instead of actually focusing on the millions of children that are left homeless and are dying because of HIV/AIDS.

And Madonna wants to raise a child left in an orphanage. What could possibly be wrong with that? How can anyone take issue with that? I just don't understand.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #114
115. Yeah, I don't either. I think adopting a child is one of the greatest things you can do today.
Any child that needs love, anywhere.

But some are not happy unless they are unhappy. And trying to make others as bitter as they are. I refuse to let them win.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #115
118. There are so many kids in this world that don't have a home.
How anyone can disrespect a person who rightfully and lovingly adopts a child is beyond me.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:35 PM
Response to Original message
43. She's always a class act.
Or is that classy?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:56 PM
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45. here is a complete concert on google video of her LA
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 12:57 PM by jonnyblitz
show during her "Confessions" tour of this year. it's not really bad for what appears to ber a bootleg.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1179688013357876469&q=madonna+concert&hl=en
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #45
120. Can't wait for he DVD to come out.
It's an amazing concert.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 12:59 PM
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46. For once she was right. Exactly what has been happening for 6 years
:puke:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:50 PM
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59. I wish she would. Then we could impeach him. nt
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. Talkin' about taking one for the team, sheesh.. n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:30 PM
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73. From what I've heard, those are the live lyrics of that song
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:40 PM
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75. Er...why would I want to do something like that,
and why would Madonna feel she had to suggest it?

:wtf:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #75
76. Well, the quote is taken out of context, but it is rather silly I'll admit
It was just a way of working in a slam at Bush lovers.

The song lyrics go:

If you don't like my attitude
Then you can "F" off
Just go to Texas
Isn't that where they golf?

But in the live show she changed it to:

Just go to Texas
And suck George Bush's dick!


I loved it when she said it during the show....but it loses something in the retelling....
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #76
79. lol. Many things lose something in the telling, don't they?
I have a feeling even many of *'s supporters would draw the line there.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #76
80. I saw the show live twice in NYC.
The crowd reaction was astounding when she sang this line.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #80
82. Surprisingly, the response here in Phoenix was resoundingly positive also
Although, the Bush-loving couple I attended the first show with (I went to both Phoenix shows) got up and left and didn't come back until after "Ray of Light" was over. They didn't seem to enjoy the show much at all. They sat in their seats while my sister & I danced our butts off.

It surprised me to hear all the cheering, because Phoenix is a solidly red town. But then, Madonna fans are cooler than the average redneck!

:D
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #82
84. I loved every, sweaty minute of it.
Phoenix is red? I had no idea.

I had seats right by the catwalk. Best seats I've ever had for a Madonna concert.

So did your friends see the video montage?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:24 PM
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86. It was my first live Madonna experience. I laughed, I cried, I danced, I sang....
Both concerts were absolutely heavenly.

I was in the cheap seats the first night. The second night I was on the lower level, but pretty far away.

I think the Bush couple did see the video montage portion.....

I don't really consider them "friends", even though we went together.

The guy is a co-worker of my husband.

When Madonna announced the first date in Phoenix I told my husband that I was going for sure, no matter what. My husband then mentioned this to his co-worker who then said, "I think my wife would like to go, why don't we go together?"

So that was the plan.....I won't bore you with all the subsequent drama, because there was a lot, believe me.

But, as things ended up, my husband was sent out of the country on business! So my sister took his ticket, and I ended up going with my sister (which was wonderful) and my husband's co-worker & his wife (which wasn't so wonderful).

The second night was just going to be my husband and I, but he was still out of the country, so I got another friend to go with me. She was only a casual Madonna fan, but I think it turned her into a "real" Madonna fan!
:D
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. I swear to Jeebus, once you see a Madonna concert
you finally understand what all the hype is about.

I would have loved to see their faces. I'm glad you and your sister had a great time. It's hard to sit down at a Madonna concert.

I took my buddy to Madonna's Re-Invention Tour and he'd been a casual fan, as well.

He's been a huge fan ever since. He couldn't thank me enough. He kept on saying how he had no idea how amazing her shows are. We had such a great time that I ended up waking-up on my kitchen floor the next morning. I think I bent down to feed the cats and decided that was a nice place to sleep.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. I saw the Stones Wed. night in L.A. and they were amazing, too.
I know this comment is off-topic, but ...
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #90
91. Actually, oddly enough, not for me.
There were these old dudes (I swear I thought one of them was Denny Hastardt) with their worked on wives sitting next to me. The ladies were totally comparing seeing Madonna to seeing the Stones.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. You're probably a lot younger than I am so the experience might not have meant the same to you.
We were in the nosebleed seats and surrounded by diehard Stones fans. I don't see many concerts so it was a big thrill for me.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #82
112. I went to one of the AZ shows and was surprised at the audience too.
But, I think slowly we're getting a little bluer here, so maybe there's hope for AZ as well!
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
78. One can't risking offending the self-appointed
guardians of moral decency in this country. I'm surprised it wasn't pulled completely off the air on demand of the christo-fascist AFA - but then, parts were already edited so not to offend the religiously-correct attitudes of these morally elite con-servatives.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #78
89. And some NBC affiliates refused to show it.
Atlanta of all places. Plus Tenn.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:27 PM
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94. Are you kidding? In Atlanta? That city is supposed to be
well, it has a large population of gays who worship Madonna. I can't believe they would just roll over like that. . .you know, at some point, someone is going to have to start complaining about the programming of the Religious Right. . .as long as people are willing to let the christo-fascists run over us, this will only get worse.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 06:43 PM
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96. I was just as surprised. Read it and weep.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:01 PM
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98. Then Can We
Impeach him?
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:10 PM
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100. I sure hope so. n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 08:09 PM
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99. Madonna said "Fuck You"...
Madonna doesnt give a fuck; she will say exactly what she thinks. Strong minded people that are in the public eye should be able to say what they will about any adminestration, specially this one.

I am not a huge fan, but some of her work is really good. Im not a pop music fan, Im a Metal fan.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #99
106. From a metal fan, that's saying a lot.
Don't you wish you could be in a place where you could say what you feel and not give a fuck?
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 12:58 PM
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121. thats posse Madonna, biggest posse. nt.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:39 PM
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124. Huh? n/t
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:42 PM
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125. Madonna, outraged she did not win an award...
it was for biggest posse. Apparently she misheard.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #125
126. Ahh, "Family Guy" reference.
Now I see.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:47 PM
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127. Yes. Funny episode. nt.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #127
128. I'm a big fan. Should have got the reference. n/t
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #128
134. Hi, JackBeck!
I certainly understand what you have been saying. I'm a proud mom of a WONDERFUL ten-year-old daughter that came to me a special way when she was two (adoption).

May you have a wonderful life!

And, I think Madonna is wonderful!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #134
135. Thanks, Maat.
Can't understand why people have to throw hate around when someone like you, Madonna, and my parents provide the opportunity to give a child a leg up on life.

:hug:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #135
138. My child is the center of my world.
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 01:22 AM by Maat
I'm glad you love your parents. I hope that I always enjoy a wonderful relationship with my daughter.

Take care!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:19 PM
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136. was it out of the blue? telling her audience to do that? i mean,
why did she say it? what was the context? (do i ask too many questions?)
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 11:39 PM
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137. ew, the thought of it!
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