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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:47 PM Original message |
Women should rebel against the language of Hip Hop. NYDNews |
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pooja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. I completely agree with this.... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. We Could Spend All Our Time Rebelling Against Sexism |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. maybe that would be the solution |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. why? My husband knows how to cook and do his laundry. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. LOL |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. SOME women need to get over their fascination |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. gawd, mythsage, you are my new hero :) |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. How did Pink put it? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. I just have a hard time believing that the way the media |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. ...and when a young woman speaks out |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You may want to add another word. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Not in my book it doesn't... |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. LOL.... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. what can you expect from Tyra Banks? She's just another cog in the machine. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Iris...you expressed it perfectly. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. thanks bliss_eternal! |
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Indy_Dem_Defender (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Mythsaje, You know what I noticed |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. It's all a facade... |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. ...especially the women. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Aparently you don't know about Missy Eliot, Fergie, and Queen Latifa |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Care to review the thread and op...? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Not flamin'. Just sayin'. |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Then take it up with whoever you have the issue with... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Well didn't we wake up on the wrong side of the bed |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Clearly... |
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MamaBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. The record companies lend the groups the $$ for the videos |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
81. Good points, MamaBear. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. You nailed that one. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. I couldn't agree more. |
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Kellyiswise (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. If only they would. I agree. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
10. I hate to tell you but women have been trying this for a long time with hip hop |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I've noticed this, too... |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. it's time for women to physically, emotionally, and financially boycott these men (or women) |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. It would be a good thing if men boycotted them also. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Most rap is bought by white teenagers |
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spillthebeans (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
13. Yo! |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
15. I'm not a hip hop fan, but think it itself is a rebellion... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Oh god please spare us. Sometimes misogyny is just mysogyny. |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Consider yourself spared. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Excellent - thanks very much! |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You're very welcome... |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. the Klan and Jim Crow were rebellions against the end of slavery; doesn't make them right |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. Misogyny is not progressive - that is just bullshit. nt |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
23. Sooooo not indicative of ALL hip-hop. |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. i think the statement was about the stuff that IS nasty misogynistic garbage. i don't |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Plenty of people say Kanye West is misogynistic. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. Well, I haven't heard all of his stuff. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. And From The "Look Who Just Caught Up" File |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
28. who is this author to decide that |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
77. you must be blind. n/t |
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RedStateShame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. When I get home, I'll turn the TV on to BET and see how seriously Osorio's plea is being taken. |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. what's your point? if what she says isn't popular she should STFU? she's right, |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
30. true |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think it is not only the young Black women, but also the young Black men |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. Who are the role models for... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. well, I'd be willing to bet NOT a father living in the home or |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. There are plenty of fathers who are living in the home... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I did not say anything about race. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. But the post specifically picked out certain races of people... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. so that makes my point less valid? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. My point exactly... |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
34. Either that, or men should just STFU. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. Tell it to Queen Latifah |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. i think queen latifah would be the first one to call BS on mysoginistic rap music |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I had several points. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. I know that there's a lot of politically aware rap and hip-hop, but |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. yep, it's the big corps that are pushing this crap down our throats |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Right-wingers love it when the plebes are mean and dumb |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
82. Just because they're selling... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. those are good points. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'm not sure I understand what course of action the author suggests. A boycott? -nt |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. She doesn't say that but how about a 17 year old girl emboldened enough |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
47. Oh Joy! An article to attract the 'Let's ban someone else's expression' |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
48. Can we work on rock n' roll, r n' b, and other forms of music? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. I agree. And southern rap is the worst |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Dh and I were trying to trace the beginnings |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. hey! |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Oooh, I'd forgotten about the baggy clothes... |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. This is so 1990. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. No - it is SO much worse than the 1990s. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
69. Wait...hiphop is making people uncomfortable? |
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thingfisher (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Our culture is in a state of schizophrenia. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. our culture is heavily influenced by marketing which knows how to manipulate |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Consumers get mindfucked without realising it. Marketing is a Science. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
71. We need more feminist music |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 02:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Yeah... |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. check out the Ladyslipper music site - all kinds of feminist music |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
87. This line makes me laugh... |
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