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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:16 PM
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Any truth to these rumors about Rove, Arnold, and Deadeye?
I am posting this question as rumor-type info, bec I have read it on a few sites, but don't want to link for obvious reasons. Here's the scoop:

Rove - Resigning. Going to work for another rethug presidential campaign. I heard Guiliani.

Arnold S - Jumping to Dem party. Avoided * by any means during his mid-term run. Got 30% of the black vote. Had voted for raise in minimum wage and voted on "some" pollution/environmental bill. This is the strongest rumor of them all.

Deadeye Dick - Resigning bec he is pissed about Rummy and doesn't have the influence on *. Also is angry about the Iraq Study Group. Guess his heart will act up.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:22 PM
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1. don't know I heard more stuff is coming out on Plame
which will make Cheney yearn for the skys of Wyoming or Paraquay whatever.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:25 PM
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2. The first and the last one seem
logical but Arnold? He strikes me as too stubborn to make that move but it would be good I guess for '08 organization in CA.

Wish there were a rumor about an R Senator leaving their party to caucus with the Dems. I would feel a lot more comfortable if we had one more to counter Lieberman.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:59 PM
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12. I will look for one NO...no promises. (Hey, I am not FAUX News..lol) nt
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:32 PM
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3. Heard the Rove will be running someone in 08
Hope he in jail by then
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:39 PM
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5. Yeah, I hope the "genius" is resigning bec he thinks he can run
from Fitz. Not!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:37 PM
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4. Arnold - here's the link:
http://www.smmirror.com/MainPages/DisplayArticleDetails.asp?eid=4339

Will Arnold Switch Parties? Does he Need to?

Some significant Republicans are openly speculating that it is only a matter of time before Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declares himself a Democrat. What's more, they claim he might as well already have switched political parties.

These are mostly the same people who spent much of last summer calling the governor a RINO – Republican in Name Only – as he adopted much of the Democratic Party's legislative agenda while avowing the cause of bipartisanship.

"A party switch could happen very soon, any day," asserts Stephen Frank of Ventura County, a former president of the California Republican Assembly and the writer of a daily conservative weblog. "I think it is in the works."

<snip>

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:44 PM
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6. Arnold S. is trying to liberalize his politics to center right. I wonder if wife
Maria has had some influence. I don't know if he would become a Democrat though. If he does then it just proves to me that he's in it for himself. He's really not very bright and I would like him to leave politics altogether. He really hasn't fixed any of the problems he said he would that he blamed Grey Davis for.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:56 PM
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11. Personally, I think there was a deal made. Maria is no fool and
has been quite an asset to Arnold and his campaigning.

I think that Maria made a deal w/ him, that if he won and won big (which he did), it was agreed that he would shift to the left. IMO.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:13 PM
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15. He's another Ronald Reagan.
Perfect in this sound Bite era. Handsome, name recognition, you've all seen it yourselves. a brainy substantiative candidate getting beat at the polls by some dimwit! I won't even name names here, though I can easily think of twenty or thirty examples off hand.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:40 PM
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16. I always said that we needed a liberal rock star to run against
him. Never mind the brainy and substantive. I thought of Madonna, but I'm sure there are other younger ones out there that are politically savvy enough to know what they are running for. Then when they become governor they can put the Phil Angelides and Grey Davises to work for them, bringing the needed brain power and experience to the job.

Bye, bye Ahnold.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:46 PM
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18. Does Madonna even live in California?
I thought she was spending most of her time in England these days (she sometimes speaks with the phony accent).

I don't know much about rock stars, but what about George Clooney?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:57 PM
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19. Yeah, he has the star power.
Madonna doesn't live here very much these days, but I'm not much into the rock scene so I couldn't think of anyone else.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:48 PM
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7. Ok, ok, I will post the links FWIW. This one is in RE to Rove:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_061117.htm

Rove May Leave Within Weeks.

The rumors that chief White House political architect Karl Rove will leave sometime next year are being bolstered with new insider reports that his partisan style is a hurdle to President Bush's new push for bipartisanship. A key Bush advisor tells the US News Political Bulletin, "Karl represents the old style and he's got to go if the Democrats are going to believe Bush's talk of getting along." The advisor said a departure might come in "weeks, not months." A Rove ally, however, noted that he has a record of out-witting his critics.

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:53 PM
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9. Deadeye Dick. FWIW.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20746765-2703,00.html

Cheney may go, opening field for 2008
David Nason, New York correspondent
November 13, 2006

<snip>

Cheney even had the authority to classify documents, something none of his predecessors could do. In short, Cheney made himself the most powerful vice-president in US history.

How things have changed. As the dust clears on the mid-term elections, Rumsfeld is gone, the Iraq strategy is in tatters, the Democrats control both houses of Congress and the once impregnable Cheney has been left isolated and discredited.

Rumsfeld's dumping aside - a move Cheney vigorously opposed - nothing indicated the sidelining of the Vice-President more than George W. Bush's White House meeting last week with senior house Democrat leaders Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer. Cheney was present, but when Bush spoke of the significance of the talks, he forgot to acknowledge the Vice-President's involvement.




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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:59 PM
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20. Makes sense Rove would go run a campaign. He can't run a government
He is just a well paid college prankster. Campaigning in the US has stooped to the level where that sort of cowardly clown can make a living at it. He is not suited for anything else but dirty tricks.

Good bye to bad rubbish. DEMS need to address laws regulating campaigns and put the bastard outta business.
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:50 PM
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8. Cheney will resign for "health reasons--a fatal heart attack...
I really think this is a plausible scenario.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:01 PM
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13. Hope so. We could save s lot of $ not having this medical vans
follow him around. That must be expensive! Meanwhile, the troops don't even get proper gear. Oh, never mind.
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:18 PM
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23. You mean the Repug goons are going to off him & make it look like a heart attack?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:54 PM
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10. I have no idea about any of these. But I think Arnie would make a lousy Dem. He's a hypocrite
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 03:56 PM by tblue
He makes great speeches then guts the funding for what he was promoting, kinda lik e B*sh. He would frustrate us to no end. But he does know how to game the system, and he's a fast learner. Very Repuglican in that respect.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:04 PM
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14. IF and only IF it looks like the Dems would probably
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 04:04 PM by AnnInLa
take the Presidency in 08, I can see that Dead-Eye would resign for health reasons, giving another repuke a whole year on the "world stage" before the elections. God, that year would almost insure that he would capture the presidency.

In fact, right after the 2nd inaugural of bush, Brian Williams (NBC Nightly News) appeared on Imus and told Imus that the retirement scenario was all the rumor in Washington, that the repukes felt that was the way to guarantee another repuke President in 08. I reported this conversation to DU, and several DUers thought it was interesting enough to keep it in mind.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:42 PM
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17. If arnie jumps to the Dems
it will be good for '08... that said it would surprise me

As to Chenney, we may be seeing the first moves for a resignation scenario if there is any meat here
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:32 PM
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21. Coulkd you repost the "meaty" link - cannot acces. nt
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:37 PM
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22. rover and dick will resign
Sooner than you think also.
But not for the reasons you put forth.

Rove is fixing to go down over the Plame treason thing and dickhead is gonna go down because of Haliburton scandals.He will also most likely get caught up in Plame treason also.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:35 PM
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24. I wish Arnie would join the Democratic Party
I can hearing the screaming already from the reTHUGs. :rofl:
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